Perhaps our situation with covid is looking up

GagaJo

Testing too. A friend messaged me to say his daughter had tested positive on an LFT but couldn't get a PCR test in our area. I went online to check and sure enough, PCR tests available. Admittedly, not the usual drive through, a walk in, but still, tests WERE available.

It changes by the hour. I needed a PCR on 29th and when I went on first there was no availability anywhere in England. An hour later I managed to get one for the following day.

Some people are more sensitive than others, some people have or have had more to cope with in their lives, some people are immunosuppressed or have family members who are, some people have family or friends who have died from Covid, some people don't have a secure income or place to live.
I'm all for facts but the trouble with pollyannas is that they often come across as complacent if not unkind.
There are people out there who are having a hard time and perhaps fear and worry lead them to be less than gleeful.

rosie1959

Yes I would Casdon but what I am pointing out is that people see the covid hospital admissions data and may think the admissions are all down to people being rushed to hospital with Covid
Not everybody studies and research the figures given infact I suspect most don't

That's why it's useful to compare with the same day a week previously. It's unlikely that a higher percentage will suddenly be admitted with a prior infection. If numbers are increasing, it's more than likely because there are more Covid cases which need hospital treatment.

PS. I agree that deaths aren't increasing, certainly not in line with cases, which IS good news.

I agree rosie.

I really find the negativity in the newspapers and on social media tiresome at the moment.

Me too.

maddyone

The 332 deaths appear to be an increase, but they cover the Christmas period. The figures are playing catch up and it’s irresponsible of the BBC to state bald facts and imply that deaths are increasing. I wonder why the BBC would want to do that?

Because unfortunately some areas of BBC reporting are becoming more like the tabloids and are only interested in grabbing headlines and clicks. The truth matters not one jot!

The 332 deaths appear to be an increase, but they cover the Christmas period. The figures are playing catch up and it’s irresponsible of the BBC to state bald facts and imply that deaths are increasing. I wonder why the BBC would want to do that?

I live in Bramhall, Stockport and close to parts of Cheshire and towns like Wilmslow, Macclesfield, Poynton and Alderley Edge and I read every day on local FB groups about pop up PCR testing centres and vaccination centres in supermarket car parks, church halls or pubs. It’s hard to keep track of them, they seem to change venues daily but it’s possible to find a centre somewhere close by.

In fact the one in the car park at Waitrose in Poynton yesterday was doing PCR tests without appointments and also had LFT packs to hand out.

Testing too. A friend messaged me to say his daughter had tested positive on an LFT but couldn't get a PCR test in our area. I went online to check and sure enough, PCR tests available. Admittedly, not the usual drive through, a walk in, but still, tests WERE available.

Barmeyoldbat

Yes they are, think it was on the news. What a mess this bunch in government have got us into, Johnson can’t even be bothered to attend COBRA meetings, instead spending his time on photo shoots. We haven’t even got enough testing kits.

Rev the testing kits, I went on the gvt website two days ago and ordered a test pack despite newspapers saying none were available and showing photos of messages.

It appears that more packs become available throughout the day so you just have to try again a few times. Both my brother and sister have managed to get packs this week as well.

I really find the negativity in the newspapers and on social media tiresome at the moment.

Why is it some people just hate a bit of optimism emerging? So far Omicron is infecting way more people but hospital admissions for complications arising from Omicron are not following the same trajectory. ICU admissions and deaths so far are also not the same proportions as the Delta wave. This might change but the indications are that it won't. I've been accused (in real life) of being a bit of a Pollyanna at times, but honestly why not enjoy a bit of positivity, we've lived with the negative for almost two years.

Alegrias1 ?

they are setting up a Nightingale at my nearest hospital

Grannybags

Lincslass

Grannybags

Deaths rates are increasing

Deaths are falling coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Just quoting what I saw on the BBC tonight. They reported 332 deaths and said it was an increase

An increase from cases reported yesterday. And it included the backlog of unreported deaths from over the Xmas period.

Yes I would Casdon but what I am pointing out is that people see the covid hospital admissions data and may think the admissions are all down to people being rushed to hospital with Covid
Not everybody studies and research the figures given infact I suspect most don't

Lincslass

Grannybags

Deaths rates are increasing

Deaths are falling coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Just quoting what I saw on the BBC tonight. They reported 332 deaths and said it was an increase

You’d still be in hospital taking up a bed rosie1959, and therein is the nub of the problem. The NHS is struggling to cope with the backlog of non Covid cases as well as increasing Covid admissions, and if a patient admitted for another reason tests positive whilst in hospital, whether incidentally or not, they require separation from non infected patients, many of whom are vulnerable because they are immune compromised. It’s a logistical nightmare.

I wasn't really thinking of those cases Growstuff if I am admitted because I have appendicitis or a broken leg and I happen to test positive for Covid I am included in the Covid figures when actually Covid has nothing to do with the reason for my admission to hospital

rosie1959

Perhaps if they sorted out the hospital admissions because of Covid from the admissions that just happen to be positive for Covid it would give a true picture

Those figures are available rosie1959. Those who are asymptomatic and those who catch Covid in hospital are still in the minority. It's a red herring.

Nevertheless, they all cause problems for the NHS. Those who are asymptomatic, but don't need urgent treatment, can be sent home. Those who catch Covid in hospital still need special care with extra controls in place. The fact that they're catching Covid in hospital is an indication of high community transmission. Infected patients could be more difficult to treat, whatever the source of transmission.

Covid spreading at steadier rate as exponential growth stops, study suggests
ZOE Covid Study says trend has emerged despite daily new symptomatic cases being more than double those at this time last year.

Heartening news surely?

Oh let’s not spoil the fun of the eternal doomsayers.
The building of the Nightingale is possibly, to quote a phrase, an abundance of caution.

All the signs point to us having turned a corner, despite the rise in cases.

Have faith folks!

I think (and have high hopes) we are turning a corner now. I’m optimistic by nature.

Perhaps if they sorted out the hospital admissions because of Covid from the admissions that just happen to be positive for Covid it would give a true picture

Grannybags

Deaths rates are increasing

Deaths are falling coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

No, they most certainly are not.