Liz Truss has covid…

I don't think any of us, despite the heat and emotion of the moment, wish anyone ill, but the problem with having a liar in office is that it is difficult to believe anything he or his colleagues say. Many on here have direct experience of covid19, it's symptoms and after effects and find it difficult to comprehend how Johnson could be chatting and eating and drinking less than a month after coming out of intensive care. This does not mean I am criticising the medical staff who cared for him. I would have thought, given his experiences of covid19 he would have been keen to wear a mask and encourage his colleagues to do so as well. Or is mask wearing, like safe distancing and rules about the number of people in your home, only for us, the little people?

I was just thinking, in my unusual way, that if we had a parliament full of very very old MPs as in the days of yore, then they might all be succumbing to the virus due to their advanced age. Liz Truss is 40s I believe, Rishi Sunak too, Hancock was, Raab etc. Obviously Boris is a bit older.

I understand that Truss went to a packed meeting after the HOC and didn't wear a mask there either. My theory is that they are very confident in the level of care they will receive if they get a severe infection. Most of us are less confident in 111.

AreWeThereYet

^Madame Defarge and her fellow tricoteuses would feel quite at home on todays GN.^

Exactly the image I have when I read some GN threads.

Don't we all sometimes write a comment in the heat of the moment, (and then live to regret?). Mine are usually something off the wall and crazy, others can be rude or nasty, in this instance the comment went somewhere that shouldn't have been voiced and it sadly misread how we feel about suffering, whoever that might be.
I guess that's how different posters are made, it won't be the first or the last time.

Sparklefizz

Boris looked ill at his press conferences following his hospitalisation, and he was noticeably breathless.

Indeed he did Sparklefizz.

I agree with posters who say that any unpleasant comments about illness and potential death are unnecessary, even if they are meant as a joke.

Madame Defarge and her fellow tricoteuses would feel quite at home on todays GN.

Exactly the image I have when I read some GN threads.

Nor would Thatcher have allowed the sort of culture that seems to pervade Downing Street now, wwm.

If any of the unmasked people we saw in Marydoll’s photo caught covid from Liz Truss yesterday they have only themselves to blame.

Boris looked ill at his press conferences following his hospitalisation, and he was noticeably breathless.

Ladyleftfieldlover

On a lighter note, we all know Truss is trying to emulate Mrs Thatcher. Posing in a tank was a hoot, I noticed yesterday that she was wearing one of Thatcher’s pussy cat bowed blouses.

I await a new hair-do. She has acquired the voice, the pussy bow. Her problem is that she has supported selling the U.K. down the river with Brexit. Something Thatcher would never had done.

Thatcher spent a lot of time fighting for what she saw as U.K. interests in Europe, but she always recognised Britains interests.

Thatcher also had a capability and political intelligence that Truss will never have however hard she tries.

Thatcher would never have supported a liar and someone whose moral integrity is completely lacking.

MayBeMaw

Look, I have no time for Boris and his cronies either, but I think this unadulterated glee at Truss getting Covid, or Johnson’s baby girl getting it, is quite sickening.
Nobody rubbed their hands in glee when Starmer tested positive (again) , nobody rubbed their hands in glee when my D got it 2 weeks ago despite stringent mask wearing etc in her work as a secondary teacher, and I apportion no blame to my 11 year old GS or 7 year old GD who both had it last week, so why should I think it is OK to be cynical about Johnson having Covid in the early days or regard it as fair game for mockery for anybody else.
Madame Defarge and her fellow tricoteuses would feel quite at home on todays GN.
As for me, I think I need to take a break as I don’t.

Very well said. Some of the comments are sickening.

Coastpath

I didn't read it as wishing illness on anyone. "Will Boris be at death's door again" sound like a question not a wish to me.

It sounded dismissive of someone’s illness, the severity of it and was appalling. I wouldn’t want anyone to catch this whoever they are, you catch it you never know how it can end.

On a lighter note, we all know Truss is trying to emulate Mrs Thatcher. Posing in a tank was a hoot, I noticed yesterday that she was wearing one of Thatcher’s pussy cat bowed blouses.

So Liz Truss got Covid. She could have picked it up anywhere and now no doubt some others in Parliament will get Covid too.

Of course she could. And very likely she has spread it to other MPs because they thought it was fine to pack themselves in there without masks.
But perhaps they're happy to get it, as part of building up the herd immunity.

Yes, I know exactly what you mean MayBee
I presumed that Johnson had been intubated. It was at a time when intubation was more commonplace.

I seem to recall someone on here saying that they were close to intubing him: no idea who it was or how they had information like that. That’s when it all became very surreal in one way but the virus itself became very real. It’s a night I won’t forget.

not sure of the incubation period/timescale, but wasn't it fortuitous that ms truss did not fly scheduled to australia;
thus protecting the wider public from risk of infection.
apparently laurence fox is self treating with de-worming medication; seems appropriate.

Sorry, my above comment was following on from MayBee’s at 00.51

I’m no conspiracy theorist, but I do find it increasingly difficult to believe that Johnson was as ill as we were led to believe

Dinahmo

Does this mean that she won't be able to fly off to the Ukraine and/or Moscow. That would be good. Perhaps Johnson can get another bout (mild - I'm not wishing anything horrible to happen to him) but the thought that he will speak to Putin scares me somewhat.

She’s not going, no.
I’m praying that Johnson won’t be going either

Much as I loathe him I couldn’t sleep when Johnson was in hospital. But I really thought the experience would make him take the pandemic seriously and, at first, that seemed to be the case. But I’m realising more and more that it had no effect on him and he still has no comprehension of what many people have gone through. His inability to wear masks has proved that and it proves that everything starts at the top when you see the government benches still, in the main, maskless. I see that Theresa May, diabetic (as is the speaker), wears one. Out of respect for fellow MP’s that May have health problems they should wear masks.

maddyone

Lawrence Fox has also got Covid but he was unvaccinated. I hope he gets well as I would hope anyone would get well, but I dislike him intensely and as he wasn’t vaccinated, it serves him right!

He’s lucky in that he’s probably got Omicron. But it means he’ll start spouting all the stuff about it being just a touch of flu, totally missing the point about how deadly previous variants have been. And that will annoy me.

Lawrence Fox has also got Covid but he was unvaccinated. I hope he gets well as I would hope anyone would get well, but I dislike him intensely and as he wasn’t vaccinated, it serves him right!

However ill BJ was, he was ill enough to be be taken to hospital in an ambulance and was in hospital being treated for several days. I had the same experience and it’s not pleasant. Anyone who wishes illness on another person is clearly not a nice person.
The staff of St Thomas’s were utterly professional in their treatment of BJ and all the other patients they were treating at the time.

So Liz Truss got Covid. She could have picked it up anywhere and now no doubt some others in Parliament will get Covid too. I hope that she and any others will recover quickly. Hopefully they’ll all have been vaccinated, both sides of the House, and all others who work there.

No one’s accusing the staff of lying because they aren’t allowed to comment on anyones medical condition.

MaizieD

Callistemon21

Coastpath

I didn't read it as wishing illness on anyone. "Will Boris be at death's door again" sound like a question not a wish to me.

These comments insinuating that Johnson was not really ill when he had Covid are truly sickening because they are yet another underhand swipe at the medical staff at St Thomas's and an insinuation that they were lying about him being ill.

I don't think the staff at St Thomas's ever said anything about how ill Johnson was. That would have been a serious breach of patient confidentiality. I trust they are too professional to have done that.

No they didnt of course.
But he was ill enough to be admitted to hospital and was moved into intensive care.

I remember the threads doubting that he was ill at all which cast doubt on the professionalism of the medical staff at St Thomas's.
Not just once, post after post.

Very unpleasant, just to get a dig at Boris, particularly for those who had family working there.

I'm not defending Boris but I am defending the staff and saying that they did not lie as has been insinuated on GN.