All restrictions to end?

Very true GSM. There are bound to be heated debates when so many varied and opposite views are held by posters. I think we have to accept that without condoning personal attacks.
Personally I find the political threads most stimulating, and do get quite bored by domestic threads and irritated by obvious (to me) trolls, but I find that Gransnetters can be so supportive when help and advice needed.
GN is also quite addictive. I have left twice and rejoined. I hope Alegria will returns.

MayBee70

In my opinion there was a ganging up mentality towards Alegrias on that thread and the more upset she got the more mocking people became. And I’m saying that as someone who has locked horns with Alegrias on many occasions. Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much. And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far.

I agree. There was one crowing about how much fun it was to see her getting riled.

GrannyGravy13

Callistemon21

It was because the SNP were being mocked, not Alegrias.

I speak as someone she has agreed with sometimes!

100% correct

100% wrong.

Lucca

MayBee70

In my opinion there was a ganging up mentality towards Alegrias on that thread and the more upset she got the more mocking people became. And I’m saying that as someone who has locked horns with Alegrias on many occasions. Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much. And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far.

I agree. There was one crowing about how much fun it was to see her getting riled.

I didn't see it.
That could have been after Alegrias had left so not a factor in her flounce.

Well, if everyone who took exception to their preferred political party/politicians being mocked on GN decided to leave because they were offended, there'd always be the knitting, TV and games thread to keep us happy. ?
And the relationship threads, of course, which are generally asking for advice which, generally speaking, none of us are qualified to do..

And still no one seems to be looking at the remarks they made and questioning whether they did take things too far. Incorrect. I have looked back at my 1st comment on the thread at the end of page 3, and all I did was to talk about doors and safety from the perspective of a H & S Compliance Inspector for schools. The reply I got was "Has the person posting this post actually read anything about what's going on?" followed by a flounce and a "Have fun".
I said earlier, I am not going to comment on the reasons for a poster leaving, but I have a sense of fairness and see no provocation in my remarks.

Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much.

And it was nothing compared to what some posters have had to put up with, some of whom are very vulnerable and come on to GN for companionship.

Really, there is no comparison.

It’s no good navel gazing on social media me thinks.

To return to the subject of the thread, as I posted earlier and someone has since mentioned, a large scale study reporting serious cardiovascular problems emerging in those who have had Covid has been posted in Nature.

www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-00403-0?fbclid=IwAR2IwBKT3Uy1vVPIYoSu3U-OF-oXftyRPx6VOTUrwrTc6V2cvrvMzuO9Pok

Here's the first paragraph:
Even a mild case of COVID-19 can increase a person’s risk of cardiovascular problems for at least a year after diagnosis, a new study1 shows. Researchers found that rates of many conditions, such as heart failure and stroke, were substantially higher in people who had recovered from COVID-19 than in similar people who hadn’t had the disease.

What’s more, the risk was elevated even for those who were under 65 years of age and lacked risk factors, such as obesity or diabetes.

It's always denied that there is any kind of in-group on GN but it's always the same people posting and the same kinds of 'it wasn't me', 'you said' 'oh no, I didn't'!!

Having seen Alegrias being pretty condescending to some people along with smug comments about how clever she was, she was someone I took care to avoid. Why are some people jumped on (and I'm not going to mention names but I certainly could) whilst others who are quite obnoxious get supported? It's a mystery.

Thank you for bringing our attention to this JillyJ. It’s definitely not flu that’s for sure.

Callistemon21

^Even a strong minded person like her can only take so much^.

And it was nothing compared to what some posters have had to put up with, some of whom are very vulnerable and come on to GN for companionship.

Really, there is no comparison.

I’d advise people who come onto the forum for companionship not to get involved in political stuff then!

It wasn’t.

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

Interesting JillyJosie

Covid is known to cause blood clots and pericarditis so it's not surprising if this study showed those increased risks.

I will make my own decisions to keep myself and hopefully others safe. I’ll still wear a mask indoors where I don’t know the people sharing the same space, I’ll keep my distance and I’ll still test, if I’m positive, I’ll stay in.
For how long I’ll do all of this I don’t know yet.

Jaxjacky, I'm sure a lot of people will continue being cautious and sensible - whatever the 'official' advice - for quite some time.

We can't pretend it's all over. We've taken great care for a couple of years, so why throw caution to the wind now? If tests become expensive (or unavailable) though, people will stop testing - and official infection rates will be even less accurate, quite a worry.

We are getting "freedom for some to do what they like, irrespective of the consequence for others."

Prof Stephen Riecher, Independent Sage

twitter.com/IndependentSage/status/1492201354886008843?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

MayBeMaw

This is NOT what this thread is about.
Can we not accept that an intelligent adult has made the decision to not spend her time on this site without agonising, or bewailing her absence or looking for any hidden significance.
Friends come, friends go, people move on.
That is not meant to sound harsh, but we also need to respect her decision.

But I very much doubt that she wanted to leave. She just couldn’t at that moment in time, cope with the things that people were saying. And, if that can happen to someone who appeared to be pretty strong minded, maybe we should all look at ourselves and the things we say to people on this and other forums. I know we can just switch off our computers and iPads when it gets too much for us but sometimes the only way to escape from it totally is to leave the forum and not be able to comment or be commented to/about.

True MayBee but as MaybeMaw said that is not what this thread is about and perhaps it should have a separate thread from this one.
The original thread title is an important topic
I also found posts from Alegrias informative and interesting

Thanks for that link varian.

I came across this petition against removing the requirement to isolate after testing positive.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/606834?fbclid=IwAR1BFwpQpGkyFXlFr4cKueoFyqqFnddov7Sr_aTf9OLCGGVuy_z2m10VSY8

JillyJosie people who are a bit afraid of being picked on or singled out tend to stick with those that do exactly that!

The community spirit which was apparent when the pandemic started seems to have sadly disappeared. It seems very much as Stephen Reicher has said.
Thanks for giving the link Varian. If I want well informed information about Covid I usually try and catch the independent sage, which is broadcast on Twitter and YouTube every Friday at 1.30pm.

love0c thanks, haven't had time to come back to GN. I think I get what you've said but how odd, leaning towards the familiar even if it's uncomfortable? I think I've read similar about people abused in childhood who stay in unhappy relationships because it's familiar. It's really sad.

Farzanah

The community spirit which was apparent when the pandemic started seems to have sadly disappeared. It seems very much as Stephen Reicher has said.
Thanks for giving the link Varian. If I want well informed information about Covid I usually try and catch the independent sage, which is broadcast on Twitter and YouTube every Friday at 1.30pm.

I think this is because of many things probably mostly because the effect of Covid has moved on so much from the initial infection. I can only speak for myself and in general but I admit I was absolutely terrified of catching it back in 2020 today things are much different with being vaccinated and the invention of the anti viral drugs I no longer have this fear.
Some although not popular thinking are totally fed up with the whole thing and no longer want restrictions of any sort.
We do still have those that are at greatest risk of harm from this virus but is this enough to regain that community spirit it should be, but most realistically it is not
Having a law that says you must isolate if infected will probably make no difference to those who have no intention of isolating in the first place as they just won’t test

Jilly it is sad. But I remember in school just how many people seem to hang with a bully. They obviously felt safe if they were friends with them. I kept away ha ha. Like you did, I suspect.