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No Vax and no Covid?

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Daisymae Mon 14-Mar-22 11:53:26

My vaccinated DS and teen GC have all tested positive this weekend. My DiL who is a staunch anti vaxer remains negative. She takes vitamins and other herbal antivirals eg garlic and ginger. Vaguely wondering if she has a point?

M0nica Tue 15-Mar-22 07:52:51

Why do they keep saying it is? If it isn't that is fine, my supposition is based on a commonly held misunderstanding, which is obviously wrong.

That is why I hedged it so carefully.

volver Tue 15-Mar-22 07:50:52

Flu's not a coronavirus.

Kinda blows the theory out of the water.

M0nica Tue 15-Mar-22 07:45:28

What I am going to write now is pure speculation and no kind of daft cloud cuckoo land belief.

I have never had flu and neither have most of my family. My parents never did, nor my sisters. During the Asian flu epidemic of 1957, or thereabouts my sisters and I were at boarding school sleeping in big open dormitories, so many pupils and teachers got flu the school closed. We went home - to an army base - another institutional setting, where again flu was rampant, yet none of us caught the illness. At one point DS's wife and children both had COVID, one of them twice. DS didn't get it, neither has my sister had it

Many years ago I read, in the New Scientist, that about 45% of the population are naturally immune to flu and I have wondered whether the immunity is specifically to flu, or more generally to corona viruses - and flu is caused by a corona virus - in which case we would not get COVID either, which we haven't.

As I said, this is pure speculation on my part, no more.

Antonia Tue 15-Mar-22 07:28:13

I believe there are studies going on, to try to assess why some people appear to have a natural immunity to it.
Both DH and I are vaccinated and boosted and so far haven't caught it but we've been very careful.
We'll be taking a chance tomorrow, though, as we're picking up our granddaughter from school, and her dad has currently got an asymptomatic case. Granddaughter had had it already.
So, we'll see. I hope I won't be back on this thread in a week or so, saying that the gamble didn't work.

annodomini Mon 14-Mar-22 23:14:29

Two of my fully vaccinated teenage GC (cousins, not siblings), who have necessarily had LFTs regularly for school, have not had Covid, despite being with siblings and parents when they were contagious. My DS2, fully vaccinated, hasn't had it, though his partner caught it at the start of the pandemic. I was feeling quite secure after two years, but it caught up with me last month - a very mild bout.

VioletSky Mon 14-Mar-22 22:19:14

Some people are just naturally immune I think. Possibly they have had a different coronavirus in the past or they were just fortunate enough to be a symptomatic.. Who knows.

We have had covid in the house twice, some of us have had covid twice... I still haven't had it, or at least nit teste positive

It's just luck not design

MayBee70 Mon 14-Mar-22 22:12:37

It’s like Russian Roulette and has been right from the start. I know more people that have caught it recently than I’ve known over he past two years. One of them has been very poorly with it. I was going to the cinema yesterday but decided against it. Said on the news today that infection rates are as high as they’ve ever been.

nanna8 Mon 14-Mar-22 22:06:58

My nurse granddaughter tells me that in the early days nearly all the people in the Covid wards were youngish and unvaccinated. Not the case now, however.

maddyone Mon 14-Mar-22 19:26:20

I had Covid before I was able to be vaccinated, and my husband had it then too. I was very ill, he wasn’t. We both had all our vaccinations and will have further ones offered. My daughter and son in law had Covid a couple of weeks after us, but they didn’t catch it from us (we were in lockdown) they caught from their work as they are doctors. We think our little granddaughter had it then too, but as her parents were ill they didn’t take her to get tested. After that no one in the family got it until a couple of weeks ago when our grandson, son’s child, got it from school. He didn’t pass it to either of his parents, but they are fully vaccinated.

GillT57 Mon 14-Mar-22 19:01:22

BlueBelle

I ve gone 2 1/2 years without CoviD and caught it last week ….Sod’s law

Same here! Not been too bad though,how about you?

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 17:15:39

I think the reason that we truly fear
this peculiar creature that I hold very dear
Is its solitary nature, cunning and skill
the bane of insects it loves to kill.

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Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 17:02:15

Oh, it's high up in the ceiling and looks just like this ?

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 17:01:19

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argymargy Mon 14-Mar-22 16:44:15

I haven't had covid and I've hardly seen any spiders in the last year. In fact I've been wondering whether they've all died from covid. Do I have a point?

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 16:35:19

Just checked - it's a fly, it just sounded like a bee as it sounded frantic.

Baggs Mon 14-Mar-22 16:34:34

Not a cobweb then, an active spider web.

Spiders have to eat too.

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 16:33:21

I do spend hours rescuing bees, (23 in one day is my record) and I have a spider catcher which works well on bees but this one is too high up to reach and the spider was busy wrapping it up for later.

Baggs Mon 14-Mar-22 16:31:04

got caught on a cobweb

Can you catch it, free it, and release it? I've done that a few times and it wasn't too hard. Jam jar and postcard are the tools.

Callistemon21 Mon 14-Mar-22 16:28:47

Oldnproud

We seem to have more spiders than average in our house. I wonder if that explains why neither of us has caught Covid yet.

I'm really upset because our first bee of the year has come in through the open conservatory door (it's lovely and warm today) and got caught on a cobweb.

I knew I should have cobwebbed.

DiscoDancer1975 Mon 14-Mar-22 16:27:47

We swim regularly, and have wondered if this has protected us. No one at our leisure centre has had covid.

Various members of our family have had it, and I’m sure we’ve been exposed. Could be the vaccines doing their work....or the amount of chlorine we’ve been exposed to.

There must be something in it. Our dentist has a chlorine spray in his surgeries. No covid there either.

Baggs Mon 14-Mar-22 16:24:47

We have two anti-vaxxer friends, both in more vulnerable groups than we are, who haven't been infected with covid as far as they know.

My three daughters, all vaxxed, have all tested positive for covid though none of them have been iller than a cold would normally make them. MrB and I are both vaxxed and we think it's possible mild cold symptoms we've occasionally had could have been covid but we don't know, having never had a positive test (and I'm tested twice a week at work).

I don't know, in answer to the OP, whether this proves a point or not but it's certainly suggestive.

M0nica Mon 14-Mar-22 15:40:47

No COVID in our family until November and February, when both adults were vaxxed but the children weren't.

DDiL caught it from a friend of her DC and gave it to them. DS did not get it. A month ago DGD caught it again.

Which proves absolutely nothing. We haven't had COVID and we had very few spiders last Autumn

AGAA4 Mon 14-Mar-22 14:14:15

She eats garlic you say. It helps to keep vampires away but not so sure about covid.

MawtheMerrier Mon 14-Mar-22 14:03:02

Oldnproud

We seem to have more spiders than average in our house. I wonder if that explains why neither of us has caught Covid yet.

Hilarious! gringringrin

Parsley3 Mon 14-Mar-22 13:32:05

My grandchild had it last week but her parents didn't catch it. I had a nasty viral infection with covid like symptoms but tested negative all through. Since I hadn't been near the infected child it had nothing to do with her. There is neither rhyme nor reason to it. Your DIL was fortunate, like my vaccinated children, that's all.