4th Covid Vaccine Refusal?

Kamiso

GrannyRose15

Had my first two vaccines earlier than I would have chosen for non-medical reasons. Consequently, needed a third jab before I went on holiday. This wouldn't have been needed had I waited to have my initial jab. Six weeks later tested positive for covid for the first time. Don't have an awful lot of faith in the vaccines so won't be having another unless I am forced to do so in order to go abroad.

It was made very clear that the vaccine was to prevent the need for hospital ICU beds. They never claimed to prevent covid all together.

It’s very selfish to go out and about if you are unvaccinated and could spread the disease to vulnerable people with health issues.

Kamiso I don't believe there has ever been any evidence that unvaccinated people are more likely to spread the disease.

I'm not questioning the wisdom of being vaccinated (far from it), but this kind of misinformation plays into the hands of the anti-vaxxers.

I have had all 4 Covid vaccinations and a flu one every year. I also paid for a shingles one recently because I don’t want to get shingles again after the last time I had it. Neither myself or my husband have had Covid as far as we know. And last week my daughter in law had a very mild dose of it - she has had 4 vaccinations too (but the last in September rather than in November when we had the booster) But although we had spent quite a lot of time with her, we didn’t get it. Neither did my son who had all 4 vaccinations too. Two friends have recently tested positive for Covid but had no symptoms. They had also had 4 vaccinations. I am fairly convinced the vaccinations are protective for a certain length of time. But I add immune boosting things like Vit D, Zinc, fruit and veg and exercise too just as a bonus!

I've had 6. 2 AstraZeneca, 2 Pfizer and 2 Moderna. Plus my flu vaccinations every year.
I have PMR and have been on steroids since summer 2020. This means that I have lowered immunity.
I'd rather have the jabs than the bugs!

GrannyRose15

Had my first two vaccines earlier than I would have chosen for non-medical reasons. Consequently, needed a third jab before I went on holiday. This wouldn't have been needed had I waited to have my initial jab. Six weeks later tested positive for covid for the first time. Don't have an awful lot of faith in the vaccines so won't be having another unless I am forced to do so in order to go abroad.

It was made very clear that the vaccine was to prevent the need for hospital ICU beds. They never claimed to prevent covid all together.

It’s very selfish to go out and about if you are unvaccinated and could spread the disease to vulnerable people with health issues.

undines Sensible debate by educated professionals about vaccines is freely available in the public domain. If you haven't seen it, you're looking in the wrong places.

Well, I've had two vaccines - not having third.

A few points:

We are told to get the vaccine so as not to 'spread' the virus, but the vaccine does not prevent us catching the virus. We are told we get the virus more mildly if we are vaccinated, but how is that verified?

And if we get the virus more mildly (maybe not even knowing we are infected) that could surely mean we spread the virus MORE, because we do not realise we are infectious (unless you are one of those people who test all the time, anyway)

This vaccine is BIG BUSINESS for drug companies. One Pfizer executive said that Covid was 'Christmas every day.' Regardless of any statistic or other information, that mere fact is NOT conducive to trust. When it comes to making large sums of money, many people are unscrupulous. Arguably, it is the more unscrupulous types that make it to positions of power in large corporations. Go figure.

Sensible debate by educated professionals on vaccine pros and cons is missing from the media. I find that highly suspicious. Science is not dogma, it is an ever-evolving exploration. Not so with vaccinations. The Establishment view is the only one we are allowed to hear.

I have not heard anyone say anything about lifestyle and diet as ways to boost the immune system. It's all vaccine, vaccine, vaccine. Why are we not being advised to do basic things, like walk every day, get fresh air, plenty of sleep, make sure we get enough Vitamin C and D etc? Could this be because no-one makes much profit from that?

Those people who say they've only had minor reactions to the vaccine - how can they KNOW? A sore arm, a couple of days in bed is nothing, agreed, if it keeps you out of hospital. But how can you be sure that your body isn't going to react long term, with anything from blood clots to cancer? Who is going to monitor that?

As I understand it, there are fairly cheap drugs, such as ivermectin that have been successful in treating Covid (in Israel, for example) but for some reason these are not generally used.

Reputable doctors have had their vaccine-questioning articles suppressed, some have lost their status and their jobs. Sorry, can't quote my source, so doubt this if you will.

A frightened populace is a populace that is easy to manipulate (up to a point, of course)

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, although I do not rule out the possibility of conspiracies. However, if I ever dare to raise my voice to question the vaccine I am shouted down and even suspected of being a Trump supporter!! Opinions are polarised, there is little sensible middle ground. To me that is dodgy.

Just sayin'

I've had my 4th and flu vaccination, as has my DH. We were both fine but do appreciate the hesitancy of some who have not faired so well with the vaccinations.

I suffered a mild stroke three days after having the second vaccine. I have had no more vaccines and not had Covid or flu, although I have suffered from the after affects from the stroke and feel lucky to have regained my health

I have had all the jabs offered, the 4th one given with flu jab. However I have just had covid again, luckily not too badly. Had I not had jabs would/could have been worse. Think it odd tho as I am housebound and hardly have visitors, only deliveries, ie food plus well everything. Not been out in over 3 years and don't know when I last visited a shop. So glad to have had all jabs offered

I've had everything on offer too, but after the third and fourth I developed a cough, sniffle, tendency to choke which went on for months. (And a bursa on my elbow just below the vaccination site, for no good reason.) I will see how infection rates stand before I commit to another jab.

Yes I have refused the 4th booster.
Why? Because I had some serious side effects and passed out 2/3 days after each of the last 3. No warning, or recollection of falling, never ever fainted before or since. Just opened my eyes and I'm on the floor. That's my life or yours if I'm driving the car.

I’ve had six (High risk of serious Covid consequences). I’ll have as many as offered to protect myself.

I have had 3, the 3rd one I was so ill with the pfizer for 2 weeks, no more for me

Missedout

I don't want to engage in 'one-upmanship' but I've had 6 covid vaccinations plus flu vaccine.

If you have a healthy immune system, I guess you can afford to choose whether or not to have any more vaccinations. I know, with a broken immune system, I can't afford to take chances. I am getting out more but don't think I would have the confidence to mix as I am now without all the vaccinations to help to protect me. I know I can't rely on others to have all their recommended vaccinations to reduce my exposure.

The only vaccination that has given me a few days of discomfort has been the 2 part non-live shingles vaccine.

I am booked to have my 6th on Saturday. I had a slight hesitation about this, opted to take it. I have lost family, friends to covid and my brother was incredibly ill.
I don't want to take the chance of being one of these statistics.

with the state of the NHS at the moment why risk putting even more pressure on them by not being vaccinated and getting covid, which is still rampant.. I have had all 4 and the flu jab and am immensly grateful to live in a country where they are available and FREE...

I've had my 4th and glad I did. My son and his family caught Covid just before Christmas de-railing our planned visit but DiL had 4th jab as she is pregnant and was not very ill at all while DS took to his bed for a couple of days. The jab may not prevent you getting it but should greatly reduce the severity.

We are looking forward to a late Christmas celebration this weekend as they are all recovered now!

I've had 4 covid jabs and the latest flu jab. No problems apart from the usual sore arm for a couple of days. It would be interesting to hear if those in hospital with covid or flu have had their full entitlement to vaccinations.

They are not "so-called" covid vaccinations. They are covid vaccinations.

Want to talk about "little intelligence or competence"?

I have to go out later, but I'm up for it if you are.

Vaccination isn’t just about protecting yourself. It’s about protecting others too! It therefore seems to me, that unless there are medical reasons to avoid vaccination, we have a social responsibility to be vaccinated.

I've had five jabs and each one was to appease my husband who is a decade older than me. No more, however. I had covid in December 2020 and found the worst part to be a feeling of being spaced out for 48 hours. That was repeated after each jab and I lso experienced gradual hearing loss that can't be accounted for. So after a four-hour long consultation at a leading London hospital involving a battery of up-to-the minute tests, the diagnosis is clear that there has been a link with increasing motion sickness and hearing loss - and the so-called covid vaccinations, and this is officially stated on the correspondence between consultant and GP. It is well known that the jabs are not vaccinations in the true sense - they do not prevent covid - rather they drip feed attacks on one's immunity which may not become apparent immediately but the medical profession knows about this. We have been duped by big Pharma and politicians who quite frankly have little intelligence or competence.

who needs to be reigned in a bit.

or even reined in a bit..

Those claiming to rely on their own immune systems are actually relying on the majority of us having those vaccines. Some people are unable to have vaccines and for some they do not work and those people also have to rely on the majority getting vaccinated, against a number of diseases.

The fourth jab here in Devon was a 'combi' injection offering protection against the original virus and the more recent Omicron. So I had it with no ill effects.

P.S. Seluj, IMO what's "looking after you" is the mass population having THEIR vaccines..... (I'm not a medic but this seems like common sense... and needs saying!)

mistymitts

I have had two vaccines and two boosters. If I had known what I know now I would not have had any. Watch Dr John Campbell on YouTube and watch the YouTube of the MP presenting his paper in Parliament about evidence of Vaccines Side effects. It is alarming to say the least.

Please don't watch John Campbell. He's become a menace.

The MP was Brigden, who is an even worse menace who spouts misinformation with seemingly no comeback and who needs to be reigned in a bit.