Covid escaped from lab - US report finds

I think germ warfare,too. I only hope other countries like Russia and the USA don’t decide to do the same. Nothing will ever be proved in any case.

Without the full text of the FBI report it's wise to withhold judgment.

The FBI have today announced today that a lab leak is the most probable cause of the pandemic. Apparently some of the report is classified so I guess that we will have to fill in the blanks ourselves.

Witzend

I wouldn’t be making excuses for China, MaizieD. They must have suspected, yet refused to acknowledge the problem, even when one of their own doctors was emphatic about a virulent new virus - and the poor man died.

Then they continued to allow planeloads of workers from Wuhan, to fly back to northern Italy to work in leather factories - and Italy was the European country hit first and hardest, if you remember.

China can’t be trusted or believed on anything at all.

Yes. An integral part of the family.

Thanks for the reply. Well you managed to fit quite a lot in👍
I like reading about the history of China. A lot of fantastic early inventions. Nowadays interesting paleolithic finds.
I like the society's attitude to the elderly, too.

Namsnanny

Gagajo when I had a lust for travel China was a place I longed to go to, but never made it.
Did you visit the Three Gorges?

No. I did see the wall, the terracotta army, the forbidden city, Guanfulin (seat of the original settlement of Shanghai). I loved the wall. It had a lot of atmosphere. Guanfulin was wonderful as well.

I just loved the people and the general way of life. Family orientated, a love, respect and valuing of learning and embracing difference and foreigners.

Gagajo when I had a lust for travel China was a place I longed to go to, but never made it.
Did you visit the Three Gorges?

True Maddyone

GagaJo

My actual opinion, and I speak as someone who has lived in, and loved, China, is that they were developing it as germ warfare. It massively backfired on them though.

Very much mine too, with USA funding.
There were labs in Ukraine I think set up by the USA.
I dont think the UK would not be involved in some way too.
They say politics is a dirty business, so is defence.

Katie59

Viruses get out of labs in many ways, about 20 yrs ago there was a Foot and Mouth disease outbreak traced to a leak in the drainage system at Pirbright. Thankfully contained to a small area.

Whatever the origin of Covid we are not going to get an unbiased account from the US.

Even more so from China who have conspired to prevent us from knowing the truth ever since it all started.

GagaJo

My actual opinion, and I speak as someone who has lived in, and loved, China, is that they were developing it as germ warfare. It massively backfired on them though.

You may very well be correct Gagajo.
It certainly wouldn’t surprise me.

Viruses get out of labs in many ways, about 20 yrs ago there was a Foot and Mouth disease outbreak traced to a leak in the drainage system at Pirbright. Thankfully contained to a small area.

Whatever the origin of Covid we are not going to get an unbiased account from the US.

Well it was successful in that case as it did kill millions worldwide! Not as intended no doubt.

GagaJo

My actual opinion, and I speak as someone who has lived in, and loved, China, is that they were developing it as germ warfare. It massively backfired on them though.

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My actual opinion, and I speak as someone who has lived in, and loved, China, is that they were developing it as germ warfare. It massively backfired on them though.

Wouldn’t be surprised WW. We don’t have a clue what’s going on politically beyond what they feed us, or is leaked. There’s that pesky word again

Quite WWM2.

I think that what we have to ask ourselves is - why has the USA chosen to bring this subject up at this point, when it has been accepted for a couple of years that this happened?

Well look at the worsening relations between the superpowers and I think you will find the answer.

if you want to conspire! there weare hundreds of tourists in china/ bunch came back early from thier cruises in nov2019.
woman in the laundery down the road she
coughed all over my friendand 2 days later we were sick but we nursed each other and stayed home lasted about 10 days and and seattle was sick fast many seniors.then died before the new year of 2020
we just new something was wrong stayed in our houses

Callistemon21

^Hard for me to comprehend how it 'escaped' also.^
Human error?

It has happened before.

I'm trying to understand this, too. A virus needs a live host. Did. lab worker get infected and spread it around? Did someone spray live virus particles into a crowded space? Was an animal (rat? mouse?) a carrier to the outside world?

It just all seems a bit 'odd'..

Hard for me to comprehend how it 'escaped' also.
Human error?

It has happened before.

Dickens

Namsnanny

Sorry Dickens, this is the problem with the written word, and the human brain. Well my brain anyway.

You have the word escaped in quotes.
Which has led me down a rabbit hole to ascribe which meaning to what word!

OK, sorry. I put escaped in quotes because how a virus gets out of a laboratory inadvertently is a tad hard for me to comprehend... leaked out, carried out?

Of course our brains all work in different ways. Mine probably doesn't work well a lot of the time!

Hard for me to comprehend how it 'escaped' also.

Although we may think it confirms our suspicions that coronavirus did in fact leak from a Wuhan lab there doesn’t seem any more actual evidence that this was definitely so, or have I missed something?

I am no apologist for China, but from the reports that I have read the jury is still out on this one.
In the OP you add the findings of the report with a low confidence level.

I read an article in The New York Times because Times article is behind a paywall and not all agencies agree with the Energy Department report.

Namsnanny

Sorry Dickens, this is the problem with the written word, and the human brain. Well my brain anyway.

You have the word escaped in quotes.
Which has led me down a rabbit hole to ascribe which meaning to what word!

OK, sorry. I put escaped in quotes because how a virus gets out of a laboratory inadvertently is a tad hard for me to comprehend... leaked out, carried out?

Of course our brains all work in different ways. Mine probably doesn't work well a lot of the time!