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NotSpaghetti Sat 18-Oct-25 12:06:45

Sorry Grammaretto - spent hours yesterday at my mother-in-law's house...
Day off today. Pizza at my daughter's

Hope other 🦞🦂 are OK

Kaimoana2 Sun 15-Feb-26 04:58:09

Friday 13 my microwave broke but fortunately I could get a new one for $69 = 30 GBpounds but I realised how very dependent I was on it once it was kaput.

Kaimoana2 Sun 15-Feb-26 04:42:02

Thinking of you Doodle and all those needing or sending a hug or cwtch, thank you Cherry

I suppose the value of 'treasures' is in what we enjoy and appreciate over our and their lifetimes.

Monetary value doesn't really matter once they become just 'items' - unless you have an antiques shop!

When I was clearing Mum's house, I asked someone, 'What's this worth?' and was told, 'only what you can get for it.'
A dealer offered me $135 for things which, if sold separately would have made 4 times that. I didn't have the heart to go that route - as dealers well know. They all cry the poor tale.

I passed a lot on to the Women's Refuge organisation who help people set up their own homes.

And as I now declutter what little I still have, its only to save my son the work when I pop me clogs.
Nothing is worth anything when you're dead.

Grammaretto Sun 15-Feb-26 01:30:11

That's a great line Kaimoana!!
Thanks for the valentine's card Cherry it's the only one I had.
Thanks to bonbons too.
I was given however a heart shaped donut today when I bought windscreen wash.

I'm having a lovely weekend with the potters. I'm in my element.
I've just come to bed having been firing the kiln for a few hours. Others have taken over now. I'll go back in the morning to see how it's doing.

Kaimoana2 Sat 14-Feb-26 23:00:16

I promise I won;t bombard you with cutsey sayings but my granddaughter, having been asked to go upstairs to bed said, "Okay but you'll have to carry me because my legs aren't interested"
smile

bonbons01 Sat 14-Feb-26 22:44:23

And cwtches from me Doodle, and for you too Grammaretto X

ixion Sat 14-Feb-26 20:13:01

A hard day for you, Doodle.

Hugs x

Doodle Sat 14-Feb-26 19:55:15

Thanks for the card Cherry. Love and hugs from me to all. Not up to posting tonight. Forgive me. Catch up tomorrow xx

Naughtyneine Sat 14-Feb-26 16:01:23

Hello Lobstars... It's been lovely reading all your news. Kaimoana...a special Valentine cwtch for you today. The Valentine illusion for DH has just been ruined methinks... He's just walked into the hairdresser's where I'm having highlights and I've gone back to the old fashioned cap so he's been treated to me looking like Yul Brynner. Bless him he didn't even blink.
Ixion...I am in awe ...do you eat out a lot? Or takeaway meals. I will never ever be in your position for sure....
Notspag... Your poor hormones are taking a battering just now....I feel for you as I'm post op/anaesthetic edge of weepiness....simple things setting me off at any time. It must be so hard for you and DH sorting through his Mother's ...life. We all have special things that only we know the story of why they mean so much and they will never mean the same to anyone else really. My daughters got house clearance without telling me in to clear the home I was born in after my sister died, I would have loved to have had my Dad's missal...black leather with many prayer cards, tissue thin pages and my memories of standing beside him...(he was 6ft 5in tall) in church and Mass in Latin. He died when I was 9 aged 42 due to medical negligence. The girls may not known the significance of it but when just writing this has made me well up...See what I mean about weepy.
Luckily I'm so new to the Lobstars that I haven't joined the cheerleading yet so not had the thrill of a soggy tassel thus far.
Grammaretto...I do love the sound of your get togethers....Safe travels North...the weather forecast isn't that great for the next week it seems. It's been gloriously sunny today... Very Springlike, it does lift the spirits.
DH starts his new job on Monday, he is excited which is lovely to see. I will miss him though even though I am managing fine, he has been so encouraging which has kept me spurred on. No crutches, the odd paracetamol as needed., walking straight and increasing the distance each day. I even did 2 hours in the garden on Thursday albeit gentle. I will be eternally grateful for the surgeons giving me a life back.
Doodle I know what you mean about blocks of flats going up everywhere. Where were used to live in Surrey there were so many beautiful detached houses being demolished and replaced with soulless places.
* Got to go...cap coming off*

CherryCezzy Sat 14-Feb-26 11:38:57

Never had a Valentine's card, Kaimoana, that's unfair, you deserve them as you're such a loving person.

Here's one to all my lobStar friends 🧡

NotSpaghetti Sat 14-Feb-26 00:02:59

...of course it's a bit scary too...
😱

NotSpaghetti Sat 14-Feb-26 00:01:27

Ixion.
That is terrific!

ixion Fri 13-Feb-26 22:19:11

Blimey, Kaimoana, you've had it hard.
Here's a Valentine good wish from me.
❤️

On the topic of clearing a loved one's home, my mother was most put out at my brother's misplaced sense of humour one birthday😳

Kaimoana2 Fri 13-Feb-26 22:08:00

The Sallies rep came to inspect the property only but over the years she and I have formed a casual but genuine friendship.

She said there would be help with packing when I move and also properties I can choose from should I still be judged safe living alone.

I'm not really. So hard to do anything when you can see so little and I feel my life diminishing so rapidly - even plain knitting of scarves is becoming hard.

My forearms have burn scars and my finger ends have been sliced so often they are numb! grin

All this is my own fault for being stubborn and trying to do what I should admit is now beyond me (or more accurately, behind me).
smile

Valentine's Day today and I was reading Maeve Binchy short stories in which, coincidentally, a woman had never received a V. card.**

Neither have I but I was given the choice by an obstetrician, "Would you like a Valentine's Day baby?"
That was in 1979 and my son has been an absolute joy ever since.

We've never had a single quarrel in all these years.
We don't always have the same opinion or point of view as he is so very like me in most things.
We are both slow to anger and laughter comes easily and often.
A most welcome and precious child.

** I once gave my husband a Valentine card, from love but hoping he might take the hint and reciprocate.

The following day I saw the card in the rubbish bin and mentioned it.

"Valentine's Day was yesterday" he said.
Perfectly true of course but the death knell of any hopes the hint might be taken grin

Hey-ho

Doodle Fri 13-Feb-26 21:11:24

ixion well I’ve never heard of that before. You must have a super clean oven . Mine is a pyromaniac so I don’t have to do much (wrong word but you know what I mean ) 🤣🤣
Yes it is sad when others treasured items are discarded as worthless . I still have a tiny tatty headless bear (I have his head too) that my MiL had in a drawer. Have no idea of its significance but as she’d kept it safe I didn’t want to throw it out. Also have DH’s battered and many times recovered stuffed toy dog.
Grammaretto hope your tri and the firing is successful

NotSpaghetti Fri 13-Feb-26 03:53:38

Grammaretto, I love your photos.
I thought the second one with the flash of yellow, the cables, the tree, the bumpy wiggly curvature of the road and then the snowy hills beyond is really perfect
Thank you

Ixion, well done you on being rejected by the oven man! grin

ixion Thu 12-Feb-26 22:34:31

No, Grammaretto, I was on the London end of Passmore Edwards' benevolence.

A big, imposing (well it seemed that way when you're a pre-schooler plus) oak-panelled building, whispering the order of the day and peeking only into the Adult Reading Room, where all the broadsheets were displayed on lecterns, fastened down by wooden slats to avoid nicking🤷‍♀️.
I have to say, the children's section was remarkably well stocked.

If anyone is interested in this Victorian philanthropist, this is one very good, tried and tested link -

spitalfieldslife.com/2016/04/04/passmore-edwards-libraries-in-the-east-end/

I hope your drive north is hazard-free.

I too had to meet up with the Probate Valuer after my DM's death.
He was, of course, right about the limited value of contents therein.

But although we realised that this would be the case, it was terribly sad to have it confirmed by an outsider that stuff that DM had personally treasured throughout her life was, in fact, valueless in the cold light of day.

I am in 😇 mode.
For the first time, I arranged for an Oven Cleaner chap to 'do' our oven, as Mr.I seems to have fallen by the wayside in his commitment.
One look and he maintained there was nothing which would justify his professional input. Apparently, I have a good 6 months left before it needs blitzing.

I think I had set my bar too high ...

Doodle Thu 12-Feb-26 20:00:56

Kaimoana the developers are building so many flats here I seriously wonder what I’ll happen to all the people who live here. No extra doctors or hospitals or schools just block after block of flats.

Doodle Thu 12-Feb-26 19:59:13

ixion i remember our library well from my childhood. My brother used to take me there once a week and I’d choose my books. I was an avid reader as a child and teenager and read several books a week during school holidays.. I loved the quietness. Not so these days.
Grammaretto i do feel it’s a shame you can have your own house in the grounds of your current one. The problem with having to do work on a new home is that it invariably needs more done and more spent than you realise. It is easy to be taken advantage of if you don’t know much about costs and then there’s all the noise and mess associated with it too.
Hope your firing goes well
Notspaghetti i find it sad to get rid of other peoples treasures. Loved and sentimental things that only mean something to the person who kept them. I remember sorting out my mums things and coming across lots of red jumpers. We all bought her red because of her black hair and it suited her.

Grammaretto Thu 12-Feb-26 19:24:31

Clearing out is hard. I have to be in the right mood and preferably with a helper to stop me wallowing in nostalgia.

Like you Doodle, my friends think I shouldn't go for a doer upper.
Music man came today and he's as optimistic as ever about his music school here.

I shall just have to keep looking and maybe the right place will appear.

I am disappointed in the planning system. That's an understatement.

It snowed a bit today and I am supposed to be driving north this weekend for another wood firing.

NotSpaghetti Thu 12-Feb-26 06:48:54

Our house is totally stuffed with treasures, Grammaretto - and of a different order to my mother-in-law's!

She has been "death clearing" for a lifetime it seems to me so I truthfully assumed it would be a relatively easy job to be honest. She hasn't stored 1000s of unused items as we (I?) have. I thought her paintings and prints would be straightforward and the oh-so- dainty jewellery that I would just ruin.

But yes. You are right, our items we have already sold were obviously wanted and that is nice. Also freecycle can be satisfying - though not always!

It did make me sad though. Maybe it was the memory of emptying my own parent's house over 30 years ago...

Grammaretto Thu 12-Feb-26 05:43:41

Join my club NotSpaghetti . 😟

The upside of selling things one by one online is that you meet the next owner who appreciates the treasures

One of the prayers at Tuesday's funeral reminded us that we came into the world with nothing and take nothing with us when we leave ....

It's hard though saying goodbye to familiar things.

NotSpaghetti Thu 12-Feb-26 05:26:47

We have just had a formal contents evaluation for probate for my dear mother-in-law's home by a highly experienced auctioneer

It was truly a shock how little the things she loved are worth. I had no expectations that her glass and China would be worth anything (she has a few Royal Doulton and Lladro for example) but he struggled to find anything of significance and said the dining chairs she had valued at £400 each many years ago would struggle to sell

He was unsurprisingly sad about the way people are turning their backs on second hand whilst still being ostensibly "green". He said he was forced to bundle up huge lots of China - and even then that was only selling to Korea!
He said there was a big market in Korea for dinner services and he had a guy who came to him once a fortnight to packup all the dinner sets he'd bought

The signed prints, oils and so on she'd collected over a lifetime are worth a fraction of her purchase price - obviously she has bought things she liked by either lesser-known or prolific artists now out of fashion

He did point out that selling everything privately, item by item, would raise more than trying to sell at an auction - but obviously it will take time and effort.

Anyway, it just made me sad. Her little folder labeled "valuables" included her silver cutlery teaspoons/ fish knives and forks, a silver sugar shaker and salt and pepper set. Also a gold watch, a beautiful sapphire and diamond dress ring (£80), a gorgous chest, aforementioned chairs and numerous other surprises.

He said his son and daughter-in-law who are also in the business never want anything from the auctions and he said he recently "cleared" his mum's house and it was exactly the same.

It really wasn't the fact that so little was of financial value there - it was more the sadness of it all. It made me remember sending lots of my parents' furniture to auction and how little it raised - it was more the reminder that the love is in the memory rather than the "stuff". The items in our house that we have loved are likely to be unwanted by our children and their generation too

I think I need to give myself a wobble and get rid of our surplus old stuff/ antiques that we don't use.... and why did I think my lovely daughter-in-law might be pleased with my parents' exquisite bone-handled fish servers! grin

I sent a message to my children asking if any of them have a special memory of anything at my mother-in-law's house and if so to let me know so it won't end up at a charity shop if it's not something my husband wants.
I had a reply from the one daughter I know was especially close to her (and really gave time to her). She said she wanted her little bag of nail care items as she used to do her grandmother's nails for her - and please could she have the nearly empty Chanel "Chance" perfume bottle and also the wooden washing-up brush
😭
I think this will be a long job

Grammaretto Wed 11-Feb-26 23:13:33

Was the Passmore Edwards library in London or in Cornwall Ixion. I've been looking it up but there seem to be 2.

It's good that there are still libraries although very different from those of our childhood. In our town the library is beneath the gym and next to the swimming pool and high school. It works quite well.

I sent the link for the doer upper to my architect who thinks it would be easy to make liveable.
The planners have refused our application for a new build in my garden.
Thanks for the warning Doodle. I know you're right. All my DC think the same.

I don't think developers would get permission to build a block of flats but they may.

It's not stopped raining here either. But we're expecting snow next.
I'm going to knit my DD a vest/gilet/waistcoat in a minty green wool.

I hope all Lobstars are bearing up.

ixion Wed 11-Feb-26 22:31:44

A lot of work there, Grammaretto. I think Doodle's words wise.

What are you knitting next?

Rain and more rain here today, I popped into the library for a book and a quiet contemplative sit.

Having negotiated the plethora of buggies and discarded wellies, I was about to be serenaded by a chorus of the Dingly Dangly scarecrow with its flippy floppy hat.

Exited PDQ. Oh for the weighty silence and the gravitas of the Passmore Edwards library of my childhood.

AIBU? Probably.

Kaimoana2 Wed 11-Feb-26 22:08:51

Just TWO houses Grammaretto?

Here, hardly ever does one house sell as exactly that.

Developers are in like vultures because in the same space they can put up a 3 - 6 storey with 2 apartments on every floor.

I'm told the rooms are tiny; 6 sq metres is the minimum so I guess that's what they'll be (although bedrooms can be smaller).

Makes me grateful for my small but not Lilliputian unit.