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Huh, I could have made that!

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StarDreamer Sat 16-Jul-22 16:09:57

Ah, but the people who say that didn't and that is an important factor.

Modern art is more than what is physically presented, it is about the thoughts that led to the art being produced.

Please discuss.

Grammy666 Wed 19-Oct-22 15:39:52

I went to Tate gallery ages ago and there were people running around through the queue ... and darting right and left ... I asked who they were ?.. I was told it was an installation , when I asked could I join in ? ... No ! ...It was against Health and Safety !!!!

StarDreamer Mon 01-Aug-22 16:40:14

Tanjamaltija

"... but they didn't..." is not quite right. Some people produce works of art that are amazing; but they are not 'names'; so they do not get gigs in galleries, or commissions for banks and other offices, and they do not know how to sell them. My friend donated eleven paintings to me for my fund-raising, and I sold them off Facebook within 24 hours, and people asked for more.

Thank you for the picture and the story.

Can you say some more about the pictures please?

For example, their size, and whether they are oils, gouache, acrylic, watercolour please?

NotSpaghetti Mon 01-Aug-22 14:24:48

I think you are right, lots of art does go unrecognised though Tanjamaltija - and some amazing work is recognised as such after the artist has died.

NotSpaghetti Mon 01-Aug-22 12:51:02

The thing is, Tanjamaltija that whilst the paintings your friend does are painterly, accessible, demonstrate skill and are quite jolly and evocative they don't feel like "art" as such. They are great for memories of places and I can certainly see why they would be popular.

Unfortunately there are so many of similar works. They are clever, definitely but "art" I think, has a unique voice. I think it's this that sets art apart from craft.

I think here though many of us are thinking about the sort of modern art that looks "easy" - your friend has taken a different route with her paintings.

Tanjamaltija Mon 01-Aug-22 11:45:35

"... but they didn't..." is not quite right. Some people produce works of art that are amazing; but they are not 'names'; so they do not get gigs in galleries, or commissions for banks and other offices, and they do not know how to sell them. My friend donated eleven paintings to me for my fund-raising, and I sold them off Facebook within 24 hours, and people asked for more.

kevincharley Mon 18-Jul-22 19:57:22

We got told off for giggling at a 'painting' at Tate Modern. A huge square canvas painted black, nothing else.
We weren't exactly laughing at 'the painting', more at the woman who stood in front of it for several minutes. What she saw, I have no idea.
We also got told off for touching an exhibit. My argument was that part of the beauty of sculpture was the feel of it. It wasn't a delicate item but a large metal cube.
My husband likens modern art to the story of The Emperor's New Clothes. In most cases I agree.

StarDreamer Mon 18-Jul-22 18:55:12

MrsKen33

They have a Moma in Macynlleth too ?

Thank you.

LINK > Website in Welsh

LINK > Website in English

I started learning Welsh using the Duolingo website course on Saturday. It is wonderful and free. Though the profile is public by default but one can make it private.

LINK > Prynhawn da

MrsKen33 Mon 18-Jul-22 18:37:49

They have a Moma in Macynlleth too ?

MissAdventure Mon 18-Jul-22 18:16:56

It is sweet.
Sort of Sesame Street type characters.

StarDreamer Mon 18-Jul-22 18:14:26

smile

MissAdventure Mon 18-Jul-22 17:58:48

smile

TerriBull Mon 18-Jul-22 17:52:57

I never really get so called installation art, I remember an exhibition I was dragged into in the Pompidou Centre no less, that appeared to consist of what looked like rucked up underlay nailed to the wall and umpteen pairs of tights suspended from a ceiling containing little balls confused

MawtheMerrier Mon 18-Jul-22 17:39:14

?????

FannyCornforth Mon 18-Jul-22 16:01:10

Well it would, wouldn’t it!

StarDreamer Mon 18-Jul-22 15:58:28

Searching on YouTube for

MoMA

showcases some videos on modern art.

FannyCornforth Mon 18-Jul-22 15:44:21

And Louise Bourgeois too

vegansrock Mon 18-Jul-22 15:42:30

Those who genuinely want to try to appreciate some modern art might have a look at the documentaries on BBC iplayer on Paula Rego and Cornelia Parker. Such interesting lives and works.

Sharina Mon 18-Jul-22 15:39:52

Well I know I couldn’t make a Verity but I live in fear that Damien Hirst would donate or loan a statue to me. As he did to Ilfracombe. I know nothing about art but I do know what I don’t like.

queenofsaanich69 Mon 18-Jul-22 15:30:39

Years ago I took my granddaughter to an art exhibition,one exhibit was an empty bed frame in an empty room,suddenly a small voice said “ Where’s the art”,enough said.

mulberry7 Mon 18-Jul-22 13:30:21

StarDreamer - 'being of fine vintage quality' - I love it!

Elegran Mon 18-Jul-22 13:11:11

MibsXX

StarDreamer

Ah, but the people who say that didn't and that is an important factor.

Modern art is more than what is physically presented, it is about the thoughts that led to the art being produced.

Please discuss.

A friend of mine years ago , an artist, told me he was at a gallery exhibiting his works, and had to stand and listen to critics harping on about how the artist was going through a blue phase, rolling moods etc etc ... he said he finally snapped at them and told them the blue paint ( which these paintings predominantly were) was almost all he'd had left in the studio that day!

I remember reading that people did the same to the author of "The Lake Isle of Innesfree" ( I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree ) they were coming up with all kinds of deep symbolic reasons - three times three for the trinity, and so on - why he had picked NINE bean rows in particular for the lines.

"Nine bean rows will I have there, a hive for the honey bee.
And live alone in the bee-loud glade"

Eventually he told them there was no symbolism, it was just because nine was the best number to fit into the rhythm of the line.

Chewbacca Mon 18-Jul-22 13:07:59

That's better StarDreamer!

Excellent idea for a thread, by the way StarDreamer; it's got so many people involved! smile

MissAdventure Mon 18-Jul-22 12:53:54

Now that's a nice one!

StarDreamer Mon 18-Jul-22 12:52:41

Based on a suggestion posted in this thread

MibsXX Mon 18-Jul-22 12:38:49

StarDreamer

Ah, but the people who say that didn't and that is an important factor.

Modern art is more than what is physically presented, it is about the thoughts that led to the art being produced.

Please discuss.

A friend of mine years ago , an artist, told me he was at a gallery exhibiting his works, and had to stand and listen to critics harping on about how the artist was going through a blue phase, rolling moods etc etc ... he said he finally snapped at them and told them the blue paint ( which these paintings predominantly were) was almost all he'd had left in the studio that day!