Women said we were genuine tonight.

Going back to the original subject no suggestion has been made on what is to be done for men who have been going to aerobics for years if the classes were made women only.
Possibly 7 classes could be ran per week at the normal price for men and the extra cost paid by the women only class attenders.
An extra building would have to be built as the centre is full.

Frank

The response of the man was that he would move if he was paid £15,000.
Surely if the parents were that concerned for the children they could have raised £15,000 between them regardless of the legal position.
Obviously I am not saying the tax payer should pay.

Frank

But Frank you posted on the other thread that no offence had been committed by the single gentleman, yet the parents involved the police and a suggestion was made that he move house.
Either 1) he has commtted an offence and should be prosecuted, or 2) he has not committed an offence and those who are suggesting that he is unsavoury in some way, should be told to s*d off.

Paying him to move because of other people's suspicions is an inane suggestion

There we are

I make suggestions on how situations can be resolved reasonably and nothing gets done because people will not spend money on getting rid of people they think are dodgy.

Frank

The needle is stuck, Ariadne.

Have I not just read this last post on another thread?

Florence56

Another thing I have thought of is how do you define dodgy types.
I can remember a complaint about a man looking out of his window which overlooked a nursery playground.
They thought it was dodgy that a single man was living in a large house in that position.
As it happened the man had been living in that house years before the nursery was built.
The parents wanted him to move elsewhere and he agreed to do so if £15,000 was raised to cover his removal expenses.
The parents were obviously not that concerned as no money was paid to him and he is still living there.

Frank

petallus

As it happens every man in the class I go to only has daughters / granddaughters.
One of the men has just had a grandson in the last week.

Frank

janerowena

If the man was walking his dog in a public place he should not be stopped.
If it is a private building curtains could have been put across the windows.
Oddly enough I went to an aerobics class when I was in London and it did upset the women when some men kept on looking in to the class.
They did not object to the male members of the class and even after that session a couple of the women came up to us and said we were very welcome to be part of that class.

Frank

Florence56

1) The leisure centre is owned by the council and like most leisure centres it does make a loss which has to be made good out of the council tax.

2) I along with the other men pay for a monthly season ticket which covers all classes.

Up until last year there were women only classes but no men only classes.
We made a complaint and said that men should pay less as they did not have as many classes to attend and also have part of their council tax refunded.
A woman who was behind us then said if this happened she should have the option to pay the same rate as the men as she did not agree with women only classes and never attended them and also have part of her council tax refunded.
After a bit of time it was decided that all classes should be mixed.
We have asked for a refund for not being to use ladies only classes in the past but no money has been forthcoming so far.
A group of men are trying to get another ladies only class stopped at a nearby centre.
A survey has been done and none of the ladies there are bothered about letting men in to those classes.

Frank

Hunter56, your arguement does not make sense. If one goes to a class, one paysfor it. Why would anyone pay for a class they could not attend?

Florence56

As I have said before you can have your men free classes as long as it is at a private venue and men are not paying towards it.
There are basically 8 men who stick with aerobics at the centre I have been going to since 2004, 2 have been going since the 70's and the others joined in the 80's and 90's.
Counting time at my old centre I have been going since the 60's.
There is another man who has been coming for about 6 months and we have had a few who we suspect were just there to look at the women and a few who have joined other classes.
Just because they left to join other classes does not mean they were there just to look. Ladies try aerobic classes and they find it does not suit them and they join circuit training classes and the majority at the centre I go to are men. Probably we should have some women free circuit training classes.
We go to the front of the class and a lot of the women have said they find us fun as none of us were exactly the best at traditionally male sports.

Frank

We were trying to make the point in the previous thread HUNTERF that some men stare at women when they are doing yoga, particularly poses like the cat.

As a man, though, don't you ever find women wiggling their bottoms about right in front of you a bit 'unsettling'?

Ah Florence , you cannot have seen any of HunterF "s earlier posts !

Hello, Yes female only classes for certain activities are always a good idea on so many levels. Its all very well saying that staff can winkle out the dodgy types but it means you have to keep an eye out for them, then talk about it to staff and go through the whole embarrassing thing of explaining your doubts etc etc. Far better to just have a couple of men free times. When, in the future !!!!!, men and women always treat each other with mutual respect, segregation need not be required However, there are still plenty of occassions at present where women and girls feel vunerable.

That's perhaps one reason why some women might prefer "women only" swimming or aerobic sessions.

I used to do water aerobics and there was a man who used to come and watch us outside the window, ostensibly walking his dog.The third week, the instructress told us to all step, turn, jump and wave. He never came back.

A couple of times there were strange men at swimming clubs who would come and then not get into the water at all, just sit and watch at the side of the pool. It's creepy and makes you feel uncomfortable. They soon get spotted though, and staff notified.