Low fat or Low carb - so confusing!

'Porker' seems a particularly mild term for an obese person to me...

I am amazed at this comment- as I find the term so extremely rude, not for me personally, but in general.

I'd be interested to hear from others, outside the tweedle dee and tweedle dum clan that always support each other (;) )
if they think the use of 'porker' for an overweight person is acceptable.

For Ana, if you think 'porker' is mild, could I possible ask for other less mild versions please. I'd like to extend my English vocabulary, thanks.

If you insist, granjura - how about 'lard-arse', 'fatso', 'beached whale' etc.

Your comment about the 'tweedle dee and tweedle dum clan' is insulting in itself. My post was not in support of anyone else, I simply found your reaction to the word 'porker' unreasonable.

Well, before I leave you to it- if you think that either of those words are acceptable, or indeed helpful in this discussion - I rest my case.

Did I say that I thought any of those words were 'acceptable' granjura?

You do seem to be spoiling for a fight for no reason that I can see - other than that you must always be 'right' as usual.

you used 'porker' quite freely- I can't see that any of the others are worse.
Spolling for a fight? Honestly - getting just a tad sick of being got at by the same people again and again.

Porker is extremely rude and unhelpful and in exactly the same rude bracket as the others- no worse, no better. End off.

I disagree. Perhaps there's some cultural difference here? Porker doesn't mean anything more than 'fat pig' I suppose - yes it's insulting, but hardly worthy of such indignant offence.

And it wasn't used as a personal remark, just as a comment about the general UK population.

cultural difference- struuuf, I lived in the UK ALL MY ADULT LIFE - in the Midlands!

And you know very well, just as well as I do- and a look at a dozen of on-line dictionaries will confirm- that the secondary and slang meaning of porker is equivalent to the other words used- and extremely rude. YOU know that- you truly do. As said, end of- stop digging- and if you do- dig on your own. I am actually angry now, and it takes an awful lot.

What on earth are you talking about, granjura?

I am not digging. I was actually trying to find out why you find the expression so offensive, thinking perhaps 'porker' meant something different in Switzerland, but you seem determined to find offence in everything I post!

I'll leave you to your self-righteous indignation.

I don't think I'm Tweedle Dum or Tweedle Dee but will refrain from further comment

DD1 was a heathily chubby baby very speedily after a low-end average birth weight. She grew very fast in the first three months. Her nickname was Porker.

We wouldn't be insulting our gorgeous baby.

Just saying.

and which decade was that? Words do change their significance and register- and this one certainly has. As you well know, of course.

Firstly I was not getting at you Granjura and secondly are you implying that I am one of those who was always getting at you? I hope not, as I don't recall ever directing an unkind post at you - on the contrary.....

The decade was the eighties and porker meant pig then too. All pigs are fat of course, it's in their genes and evolution and is why they are good swimmers. Also why they taste good.

I like pigs. They are nice animals.

Anya, I agree- you are not one of them.

Bags, that is my point entirely- 'porker' meant 'pig' then, and 'pig' just meant the animal - the slang meaning and register has since changed, especially for 'porker' and it is incredibly rude. As said, as you well know- there is a good reason why it was ----- when it was written, no? Why - it if it wasn't- come on.

I think there's a subtle difference between calling a person a 'porker' and saying we are a nation of porkers. One is personal but the second is not.

Oh, do tell us what "porker" means gj! Has it got a really rude meaning? (Is it something to do with willies?)

I have heard a willy called a 'pork sword'. Well, I think I have. I don't think I made it up.

Even if it is, how has that got anything to do with obesity? And is it likely that Anya would have used the word other than to mean 'fat'? This is getting really silly...

O M G !!! I've found the other meaning! And it's really rude!

Shall I put it up. (so to speak)

Here it is:

Porker

Noun: A word for someone who is accused of sexually mollesting animals. For example, someone who raped a dog (got milkboned) would be a porker. Someone who raped a pig (got porked by a pig) would also be a porker. Used most popularly as an insult.
I heard she was so desparate that she got milkboned by her dog! What a porker!
by Kitty January 25, 2005

perhaps, but if I had said it (being considered a furiner and all, despite almost 40 years in the UK) all hell would have let loose. Such a shame- the discussion is an interesting one, and very important too- as indeed the UK has an increasing problems with obesity and it is indeed costing the NHS, and therefore the whole community, a fortune. Insults, personal or otherwise, have no place in this discussion, and are both rude and unhelpful.

Portion control is not helped either, by restaurants and supermarkets that increase portion size to match the USA- and a food industry that adds transfat and sugar in everything - which some here deny too.

How did you know that granjura?!

Anyway, like bags says - it's simply a matter of getting the ratio of calories in and calories out right. No other way.