Low fat or Low carb - so confusing!

I certainly didn't!

Neither did I! Our granjura has hidden depths. Respect gj! (I think)

Hmm...it's all very well knowing the most base meaning of a word, but not on to assume everyone else does and to castigate them for it!

I'm cross, as you'll have gathered, but will let it go now.

(I'd still love to know who Tweedledum and Tweedledee are in granjura's mind though)

Where's granjura gone?

Blimey ... now I understand why you were getting so get up * GJ*

Het up

I hadnt heard of the very rude porker meaning. But I probably dont count as I havent heard of lots of words that are used on gransnet.

!!!

We don't use that on Gransnet!!!

Seems to me that it's saying one's insulted and that something is unbearably rude and personal that derails threads, not casual uses of words that have multiple meanings.

Saying we are a nation of porkers is not rude or insulting any more than saying we are a nation of fatties, and that is said in those words or in others (obesity epidemic, etc) quite often all over the media.

Anyway, if someone feels insulted so be it, they feel insulted. So what? as Stephen Fry would say (though he says it more colourfully). The fact remains that, except for a few metabolism problems, if one wants to lose weight one has to eat less. Of everything. Less of every part of a balanced diet. So the less fat or less carbs or less something else is just confusion, as the OP said.

My vocabulary has now expanded. I thought it was fairly wide, but I had never heard that meaning for the word. As has been said, no wonder Gj was shocked by the use of it - but she seems to be the only person on here who was aware that it could be used that way. Everyone else believed it to be uncomplimentary about overweight or obese people, but not that incredibly insulting.

I really don't think it was reasonable of her to assume that it was posted with the worst intentions. Almost every word in the dictionary has an alternative meaning to someone. It is getting that a dictionary needs to be consulted before typing anything at all.

Oh dear, it's all ended up with the usual bun fight. A shame because it began as a reasonable discussion

"bunfight"?!

Just a little levity, that's all.

Carry on discussing, why don't you?

To return to fat v carbohydrate - umm - where were we again?

Anyone got a recipe for a low fat, low carb bun?

Take one ordinary high-carb bun and spread it thickly with butter. Scrape off the butter with a spoon and put to one side. Throw away the bun and eat the butter.

Sorry, that was a high fat, low carb bun. For the low-fat version, throw away the butter too.

It's okay, I'm leaving the playground...carry on gang

Thanks, Elegran I'll have one of those for breakfast tomorrow. I'll throw the butter on top of my grilled mushrooms.....That's allowed.

I thought I knew everything there was to know about dieting and then I read something which opened my eyes. I always knew carbohydrates were basically what our body uses as energy. But I didn't understand the relationship between fat and carbohydrates.

If you eat too many carbohydrates, the excess is converted to be stored as fat. So to lose fat you need to eat less carbohydrate than you need. Then your body will dip into your fat store and convert it back to make up for the shortage in carbohydrate.

So that's why cutting back on your carbohydrates helps you lose weight.

That's how to lose weight in a nutshell!

PS Never heard of the rude version of porker. Colour me shocked!

Jingl, admit it, you've made that definition up, surely?! Or is it that online dictionary where the yoof all make their own definitions up (usually very rude and fanciful meanings for their friends' names)? I still can't believe there's a really offensive definition of porker. To me, and I'm sure to most other GNers, it's just a bit, well, pig like.

boheminan, why the flounce?

Elegran

boheminan ?

Fat in the diet is broken down into carbohydrates too. We get some of our energy (and fat-soluble vitamins among other things) from fats as well as from carbs. It's not a simple relationship. Eating less of all kinds of food is still the only sure way to lose weight.

DH has been on a low carb diet for ages. It hasn't made an ounce of difference to his weight.

I merrily eat as much carbohydrate-based food and fat-based food as I like and am not overweight because as much as I like is not too much. That's where the simple relationship is: calories in has to equal calories burned. Any inequalities there and you either lose weight or gain it.

I lost weight and kept it off once I stopped dieting and changed my way of eating. I don't snack, I try and keep off processed food, have smaller portions and have plenty of exercise.
You have to be careful 'low fat' often means lots of sugar. I think the sugar is worse than the fat and a lot of it is hidden in processed foods.