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I’m a pear ? the sequel!

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NanKate Wed 01-Jan-20 08:17:35

On 08 May 2018 I started this thread for those who wanted to lose weight and have a healthier lifestyle. Many people have joined up and many pounds lost and a few gained.

However the 2 Gransnetters who have stayed the course are Fourormore and Shirleyw who have helped to keep me on the straight and narrow, most of the time ?, and kept up our spirits. Plus a few others who make an occasional entrance and departure and that is fine too - All Welcome.

Do join us the rules are simple.

Choose your own style of diet plan.
Check in regularly with a report of the highs and lows of the diet.
Have an occasional binge but get back on the wagon ASAP.
Pass on any useful diet tips.

So for example I started calorie counting with the NHS Diet Plan. I now eat what I like but make portion control my mantra. I am sure both Four and Shirley will tell you their strategies.

You have nothing to lose, other than weight, on this thread.

So Onward and Downward ? in 2020 and beyond folks. Come and join us.

Dorsetcupcake61 Wed 30-Sept-20 10:27:06

Thankyou Sarahmob. Yes here is very much appreciated! Indeed stress is not good when trying to diet, I find I either want to comfort eat or not eat at all which leads to snacking. Not good for diabetics either!
Still, I have an online shopping order due on Friday so going to batch bake some soup. It certainly seems the weather for it. I tend to make it up depending on what's to hand but loaded with vegetables, garlic and spices. I always feel the goodness working.!

Sarahmob Wed 30-Sept-20 10:04:40

Dorsetcupcake61 it’s good that you have somewhere to let out all your stress and what are friends for if not to lend a listening ear. It’s a shame that’s all we can do, but I hope it makes a difference to you. Stress doesn’t help when we’re trying to watch our weight does it?

Dorsetcupcake61 Tue 29-Sept-20 09:46:27

Thankyou Whiff,so much appreciated and I do indeed feel safe on here?. Yes stress levels shoot up when work emails start,so much nit picking of repeated info! I think the thing that grounded me is knowing that high risk employees in government departments are either working from home or working in covid safe environments, as are council employees. Dreadfully unfair but when they go back I will know things improved! Mixed messages from government in early summer did in fact make me doubt my own sanity. Comedians such as Matt Lucas highlight the madness of the situation which helps,as does limiting time spent watching news!
Have a lovely daysmile

Whiff Tue 29-Sept-20 08:36:48

Dorsetcupcake61 I am sorry you are going through this. Your stress levels must be sky high. I have found since joining this thread we can talk about anything. And I for one am glad of that. I know losing weight brought us together but we all have different things going on in our lives and it's nice to share with friends who listen but don't judge and help were they can. We all have things going on in our lives and it's nice to voice our worries and fears. I unloaded enough about what my son has done. I feel safe here hope you do to.

Take care of yourself. Sending you a big hug.

Dorsetcupcake61 Tue 29-Sept-20 07:51:24

Oh bless you Whiff and Fourormore, up early and saw your message.?.
Sadly not a lot further forward. Constructive dismissal not really viable,which didnt surprise me but wanted to check.
I dont know if I mentioned before but since June my gp signed me off from work with work related anxiety and stress due to Covid. It was very genuine, knowing what had happened in the building, the fact they had lied about a staff member having Covid in March. The last managers approach to individual risk assessment was come back when you feel it's safe,you cant socially distance,do as I say and you will be ok. My trust in my employer is zero. They sent a risk assessment which gave me a low risk rating,on one used by NHS I was borderline shielding. It did say it could be discussed in supervision. I've had a 10 minute supervision in 2 years when CQC were due. They dont do supervision! Anyway in June I was having frequent nightmares about being back at work and initially it was ok but then realised none of the residents I knew were there and I realised I wasnt safe then I would wake up.
I'm still trying to come to terms with the deaths of the six of the residents I was closest to,including my 1.1. I feel guilty because I wasnt there for them. Anyway GP aware of all this but always been a bit odd about situation. It's something other diabetics have experienced. The risk is well documented. The virus is now thought to be more to do with the immune system than respiratory. In March diabetics thought we would be shielded, it was on gov.uk that along with others who get flu jab we would be asked to isolate. Of course we weren't. They are simply to many of us. We are no more at risk of catching virus just severe consequences if we do.
Since lockdown the government has reduced guidelines for those shielded and high risk and dont change them much when things get worse. Diabetes UK petitioned the government about risks faced by working diabetics in particular. The government fully acknowledged the risks but admitted they had no plans to change anything. There are so many high risk frontline workers if everyone was isolated it would cause real problems.
My GP has admitted there is no box to tick for diabetics. She acknowledges the risk then cheerily states she has lots of patients in same position.!
I was quite surprised when she signed me off until mid September. Maybe she thought things would be better then. Well obviously it hasn't worked out that way.! My employers dont think it's a good idea for me to be at work and they suggested I contact my GP again. I did, it wasnt my usual one. I had completed very honestly the NHS mood assessment and the results said I should share with GP. Which I did. They are fully aware of the background at work and fact unions involved. This GP again rather brightly admitted had lots of patients in same position but said needed to consult with my GP. She would call the next day.
Instead I received a text saying she had consulted with the practice manager and they dont issue sick certificates in relation to work related anxiety due to Covid.
I was stunned to get such info by text. Firstly it gave no opportunity to challenge. Anxiety is still anxiety regardless of source the feelings and effects are the same. When I'm not concerned about work and the risks I would face I'm fine with how I deal with the risk elsewhere. I spent one 12 hour shift in an environment where I knew I was at risk. The strain is awful. I know I would have challenged her as to how she would feel. GPs make pretty darn sure they minimise the risk in their work environment. How would she feel if that was stripped away to bare minimum? I have a feeling it may be a conversation they have had a few times,hence the text.
After speaking to union rep emailed employers to inform not officially signed off. To be fair even they were taken aback. Oh,I forgot the last piece of advice on the text. I was to refer back to my employer and their HR department re workplace being Covid safe. You couldn't make it up really. GP is well aware employer is cause of problems for failing to do that!
So employer is happy for me not to be at work and will do a risk assessment when it will cause me less anxiety. Even they acknowledge the stress caused by rising infections and unpredictable testing. Of course they dont mind me being there,they are not paying me!
Apparently the best outcome is to be dismissed on health grounds as far as Universal Credit is concerned. If you resign you may be sanctioned for 3 months. Quite how you get your employer to do this I dont know so I'm awaiting further advice from Union.
It does appear they are seeing numerous similar cases,including people who were officially shielded and employers refused to furlough them so they had to live off SSP rather than reduced wages. Union rep did mention my employers with regard to this.
So once again I'm left hanging. It's a game to get the best outcome. I could I suppose carry on in this No Mans Land. Universal Credit pay a small amount each month which ekes out my small amount of savings. Of course it's a situation that feels a bit precarious. My employers could turn very unpleasant, I dont think they will with union involved though. If I resign and am sanctioned it's better to do it now whilst have some savings left rather than face 12 weeks with nothing.!
It's a game and exhausting. I think I just want peace of mind. I'm luckier than most. I own my house so I dont have to worry about that. A small amount of savings mean at least I have a choice. So many diabetics are facing so much worse,especially teaching assistants. The lack of safety in workplaces is shocking. One chap applied for a printmaking job in somewhere he had worked before. When he got there there was no social distancing or masks etc. Someone who had previously worked there who type 1 was no longer there. He was shown to a room where he waited for half an hour. Eventually the manager came in and said this wasnt a suitable environment for him and paid him for his time!
So,I'm mainly concerned with diabetics. Early in year we felt things would improve, we would be protected. Hundreds of carers and front line workers died. Nothing has changed. Although it doesnt completely shock me its scary to be in an unprecedented situation where the old rules dont apply and unless you have finances to protect you its survival of the fittest. No support from GPs, Union do their best. Employers can do what they want if they are unscrupulous. Yes you can report non covid safe workplace to H&S but their employees decimated by austerity. Of course the only way you can prove a workplace is unsafe in first place is to be in it. I KNOW that whatever the Managing Director promises the reality will be completely different!
Oops sorry for all this. Not very diet related! Thankyou for your kind thoughts ??

fourormore Mon 28-Sept-20 20:26:12

Yes, let us know Dorsetcupcake - we've been thinking of you and hope it went well x

Whiff Mon 28-Sept-20 19:25:01

Dorsetcupcake61 how did you get on today?

Dorsetcupcake61 Mon 28-Sept-20 08:45:16

I know where you are coming from Whiff. People are bickering all over the place. It's becoming almost Brexit like only with more factions! Underneath it is I'm sure fear and uncertainty. I'm on a diabetes.uk forum and a thread about safe return to work. It started off,and often is very helpful and supportive. Recently people are increasingly intolerant, some denying any risk etc and mocking those who are more cautious. Thank goodness for this safe haven ?.

Whiff Mon 28-Sept-20 08:22:40

Beechnut it's a wonder we are all sane let alone able to loss weight. But like the rest off us we plod on. One of many things I like about this thread is no one's a quitter. We all battle on and support eachother.

When I had a look at the Coronavirus forum and read a couple of threads people there are being mean to eachother . Why what's the point! If you can't be nice then keep your mouth shut. Life is hard enough especially at the moment.

On this forum someone started a thread about helping her over weight husband loss weight. Others joined in along the same lines. In the end I had to comment and told them they should be grateful they still have husband to worry about. Added a few extra things. Not feeling well last week afraid I snapped. I was nice what I said but instead of moaning they should be grateful they have the other half of themselves still their lives. Mind you if my husband was still alive today don't how I would keep him safe.

Keep up the good fight all and stay safe.

Dorsetcupcake61 Mon 28-Sept-20 08:09:12

Morning all?. Thankyou for all your good wishes, I think now I have made my mind up a weight has been lifted?.
Hmmm talking of weight.. I did get on the scales and have put on 2lb. Although my eating has been erratic I have eaten more bread,and of course it's what you put in it or on it. It's done me good as have realised I need to put brakes on and pay attention!
Well done Cocopops . I hope you have a lovely time kayaking. I must admit I'm in awe,I dont know what I'd struggle more with,getting in or out of a kayak?.
Brilliant achievement Shirleyw and very motivating,not only for you but for me too?.
I sympathise Beechnut I think I need to have a rethink. I certainly need to avoid bread!
It all seems to be chaotic Whiff. There was an interesting article in the Guardian comparing our actions to countries who have managed the virus more efficiently. We seem to have missed opportunities at each stage and appear to be left with a hot mess. All we can do is our best as individuals ☹.
Stay safe everyone ?

Beechnut Mon 28-Sept-20 07:13:29

I think I’ll change my name to yo-yo ?like my weight. I’m going to need a good think about how I move into a winter eating regime.
Well done to the losers.

Whiff Mon 28-Sept-20 06:59:20

Congratulations Cocopops and Shirleyw on your losses.

Fourormore I join you in your rant. If only people used their common sense . They acting as if it's flu but people forget how many die from flu every winter. Anyone not wearing a mask who can should be fined £100 on the spot. If they haven't got it marched to a cash point to get it. The police have enough to do than deal with stupid people who don't care about others. It's like this environmental rebellion group can't remember the first bit. People first always. I recycle everything I can and pass on things I don't need to charity. But they are to extreme. Stopping people going to work attacking police and going floppy when arrested. Did anyone listen to what someone high up in the police force said them going floppy it was brilliant.

The minority always spoil things for the majority.

Anyway had my rant as well

Dorsetcupcake61 hope everything goes well today.

Stay safe everyone

Shirleyw Mon 28-Sept-20 05:46:13

Mornin' all.
Half a pound is good cocoa. I lost 2 lbs this week so in 7 weeks I have lost one stone and 4 lbs......and that was with a blip on a long weekend.....also I'm now in the overweight category...just......rather than obese according to my BMI ?

We put the heating on for the first time at the weekend.....in September!!!
Have a good week....

fourormore Sun 27-Sept-20 21:20:37

Good luck for tomorrow Dorset - I hope you get the best result for you
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CocoPops Sun 27-Sept-20 20:48:48

Hi everybody, Hope you soon feel better Whiff.
Hope you manage your resignation successfully Dorsetcupcake61.
Forecast here this afternoon looks good so I am taking my grandaughter kayaking. Wish me luck as I am a bit stiff and creaky getting in and out of a kayak these days!
Loss of just 1/2 lb this week.

Dorsetcupcake61 Sun 27-Sept-20 12:51:02

Good afternoon everyone.?.
Well done Sarahmob ?. Resisting temptation is hard so well done there. With regards to motivation sometimes mixing up the menu can help. I used to write down little treats for when I reached a goal such as new nail polish or book.
I hope you are feeling better soon Whiff,sometimes antibiotics can make you feel as grim as the ailment. Its brilliant that you have maintained but as Sarah and fourormore have said TLC is sometimes as important.
Fourormore you dont have to apologise for your rant and you are certainly not alone in feeling the news is depressing. In fact there seems an air of chaos and uncertainty. People just seem to be bickering and blaming each other. Bereavement is awful at any time but the whole process must be so much worse when the rituals if grieving are denied.
I havent got on the scales yet. No resolution with work yet ,although I intend to resign tomorrow after checking a few details with my Union rep. Well,that's if I can rouse him from his state of inertia. Hes starting to remind me of the door mouse in Alice in Wonderland, unfortunately if this situation isnt resolved soon I may turn into the Mad Hatter?.
In the midst of this my daughter split up with her fiance and my youngest grandson had to be taken on a three hour round trip for a covid test,fortunately it was negative! Oh and my curtain rail fell down?.
All will be resolved. I'm focusing on nutritious but comforting and have a Moroccan lamb and apricot casserole in slow cooker which was soothing to prepare and smells divine! Have a peaceful week everyone. Onwards and if not downwards we shall endeavour not to turn into Tweedledum!

fourormore Sun 27-Sept-20 10:56:12

Like Sarahmob said - tender loving care to ourselves is very important. Hope you are better Whiff
I know my cousin's death didn't help but I'm finding this week's news has been very depressing and also frustrating. My aunty has instructed us not to travel to the funeral as it puts us all at risk and the restrictions mean I can't give her the hugs I so want to give. Also we can't even 'socialise' afterwards. She is absolutely right of course but it's hard.

The numbers are rising all over the country - I am fortunate in living in a lower risk area but it seems that all the focus is on the fact our numbers are lower than other places. Yes that's good, but we still have it and if we ignore it, it won't go away. This attitude is causing complacency.

I couldn't believe the mass protest in London yesterday where thousands of people - no masks, no distancing - protested against the restrictions! They care about no one but themselves and I really feel that we are currently living in a very selfish society. What can the poor police do? Where do they start?

If only we could scoop some of the protesters up and make them go to work - even just for an hour - with my young niece who works long shifts on Covid wards. If they could see the struggle and fights that these sick people go through just to survive perhaps they would think again? If they could see the state of that poor girl's face when she removes the PPE at the end of her shift - sore to the point of bleeding some days. They have no idea and while the 'powers that be' keep 'reassuring us' that we are better than elsewhere the message won't get through.

Sorry for my rant folks - surprisingly although I have sinned this week I have only put on 0.6 of a pound but like Whiff I must give myself a stern talking too as this is the way it creeps back on. However, today is Sinday so I'm allowing myself my Sinday-treats but back to the mill tomorrow!
Good luck everyone as we continue our mission flowersflowersflowers

Whiff Sun 27-Sept-20 10:43:56

Sarahmob back to 90%. When I first had the UTI was put on a 3 day course of antibiotics. 2 days after finishing them it was back. Different antibiotic double the dose for a week. Hopefully they do the trick.

Sarahmob Sun 27-Sept-20 10:07:55

If you were feeling rubbish then it’s a good thing you didn’t exercise Whiff. A bit of tender loving self care is important. Hope you are feeling 100% now.

Whiff Sun 27-Sept-20 09:40:00

Sarahmob well done at the loss. My weight has stayed the same this week. Only because up until Thursday didn't feel much like eating due to a UTI since then can't stop. Must get my will power back in gear. I'm fine until 9 then the muchies craving start. It stops today . Haven't exercised for a week must do it today. Also the weather has been has been bad so not in the garden everyday. I know all excuses. Need to get myself in hand.

Hope everyone has a good week.

Sarahmob Sun 27-Sept-20 08:01:51

Good morning all, I’m pleased to report that the weight I’d gained on my holiday has been banished along with another half a pound. I have to confess that my motivation is wobbly at the moment, it’s frustrating seeing those numbers go down so slowly and I get so bored with what’s available/permissible to eat. I’ve had a craving this week for crusty bread, butter and good cheese which I’ve managed to resist. Anybody got any tips on improving my motivation? I’d love to read them. Wishing you all a good week ?

CocoPops Tue 22-Sept-20 06:51:09

Thanks for asking Whiff. I'm OK thanks.
The smoke in my home town on the West Coast of Canada was from the severe, massive wildfires raging in the US West Coast blowing thousands of miles and reaching 6 provinces in Canada.

Whiff Mon 21-Sept-20 19:03:16

Cocopops are you in any danger from the fires?

CocoPops Mon 21-Sept-20 16:54:34

No change in weight this week. Walking outside has been restricted because of poor air quality from smoke blowing over from Washington state and Oregan wildfires. Clear sky today so taking my dog for a good leg stretch round the local lake.
Good luck everyone.

Shirleyw Mon 21-Sept-20 15:59:01

Thanks guys.
Oh whif, if only....1 small glass of wine at a weekend wouldnt do for me, id like a couple large ones with ice lol.......

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