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I’m a Pear/Apple - Part 4. Yabadabadoo !

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NanKate Mon 02-Jan-23 16:48:54

On 08 May 2018 I started this thread for those who wanted to lose weight and have a healthier lifestyle. Many people have joined up and many pounds lost and a few gained.

We now have a small band of ‘regulars’ called Pears and Apples who have joined our ranks and they have brought new ideas and support. Many thanks girls what would I do without you all. I am so grateful you have stayed so loyal and been such good friends to us all.

Do join us the rules are simple.

Choose your own style of diet plan.

Check in regularly with a report of the highs and lows of the diet.

Have an occasional binge but get back on the wagon ASAP.
Pass on any useful diet tips.

So for example I started calorie counting with the NHS Diet Plan. I now eat what I like but make portion control my way of life.

You have nothing to lose, other than weight, on this thread.

Our mantra is - Eat Less for Life.

VioletSky Sun 12-Mar-23 12:20:37

Currently 163

This is where I usually give up lol but I'm wanting that half stone loss. Let's go!

fourormore Sun 12-Mar-23 10:49:28

Well done everyone for hanging in there and not giving up - as it's been said we all have different ways of doing things so we choose what works for us.
I have put on half a pound this week but I know why - we ate out on Thursday and had fish and chips! It was also hubby's birthday this week. Instead of going out for a meal we had steak etc. at home and also birthday cake which probably amounted to more than we would normally have eaten!!!
If we know why we have gained it's fine.
Back onto the wagon next week!
Good luck everyone flowersflowersflowers

Whiff Sun 12-Mar-23 10:30:29

Doodledog well balanced post. But as we all know there is no short cuts when it comes to losing weight. And unless you want to do it for you ,you won't succeed. I spent decades of trying to lose weight and gave up. I was very lucky to be married to a man who still loved me and wanted me no matter how much weight I put on. He helped when I went on a diet but never criticised me when I have up. After he died I had parents and mother in law dependant on me. So losing weight and my wants and needs had to be put on hold. As I have said having jaundice was my wake up call my life had to change and it was only 3 things to wanted. Move house,lose weight and get fit.

Well I did move ,got to sit fit classes before and after my move and started my weight lose journey in mid 2017. And knew from experience there is no short cuts to losing weight. You control what you put in your mouth and how much. Even with slimming tablets,gastric band and now this vaccine it doesn't teach people to eat a healthier diet but they can still eat and will eat all the high cal foods and drink they want but rely on artificial means to lose the weight for them. And when they fail they will blame it on the medical profession.

I count calories as it's the only way that works for me. I still have treats if I want them but count those cals into my allowance.

Like you I have health problems they aren't weight related but 2 things I was born with. I find exercise helps with my strength , mobility and balance. Losing the 7 st has changed my life and I have the satisfaction of knowing I did it myself. Been battling to lost the last stone and bit for 2 years now but one day I will get to target .

This week my weight has stayed the same whilst annoying proves I can maintain a weight . So I don't look on it as a failure. But something I will be able to do in the future once I reach 11st still be overweight for 5' 2" but decades of morbid obesity has left me with a lot of flabby skin that no matter how much I exercise will never tighten.

We all have to find a way that suits us to lose weight . And realise there are no short cuts and it's a marathon not a sprint. Some use smaller plates which works for some as long as the plate isn't piled high and what they put on the plate is a balanced meal and low in fat.

I know my foods I can't control so don't buy them . I bake once every 2 weeks my daughter and family have something and take something to my craft group . Means at craft group I have a treat but I don't eat lunch that day just have 10g dry weight extra of oats for breakfast.

If losing weight was easy we would all be a size 12 with a killer figure. But it's not so continue the good fight and one day we will all reach out target.

Doodledog Sun 12-Mar-23 07:58:32

NanKate

Whiff and Doodledog we are bound to get the occasional difference of opinion on this thread, but none of it ever gets nasty, like we find on other threads.

Onwards and downwards 👎

Agreed, which is why I was surprised that my post was seen as ‘having a dig’. It wasn’t. It was just an opinion.

I’ll try again, and hope that it’s obvious that I’m not directing this at anyone. We all know that obesity is a problem and that it costs the country a fortune. We are continually told that we should consider the costs of lifestyle choices and feel bad if ours have a net cost higher than our contributions to the economy. Everything is boiled down to costs, wrongly in my view, but there we are.

Yet when a drug is developed that can cause weight loss and potentially reduce the burden on the NHS there are those (and I specifically said ‘not on this thread’) who pooh-pooh it because they think drugs make it ‘too easy’ to lose weight. Fatties shouldn’t have a ’quick fix’, but should fight against obesity for years if necessary, limiting intake, reducing fat and sugar, even when it clearly doesn’t work and they stay fat.
It makes no sense to me, but it’s clear that the diet industry stands to lose a fortune if people stop paying to be told they should eat less and exercise more, or fork out for shakes, bars and pre-measured ingredients? Or are the objections just because there is a feeling that fat people should suffer?

I don’t know, but I think it’s interesting to consider. The jab is not for me, as I need to exercise for health reasons unconnected to weight, but I don’t look down on those who take it. I wish them luck, and if losing weight easily boosts their confidence and gives them an incentive to stay slim then I’ll raise a glass to them.

TillyTrotter Sat 11-Mar-23 19:07:12

That’s made me think Violetsky . You are right.
Eating off a smaller plate works well for me as it looks quite full.
I hope your friend can get back to a healthy life and enjoy food again.

VioletSky Sat 11-Mar-23 14:56:37

Genuinely Tilly I'd be careful not to stray into counting calories too much... just be aware of what you are eating and eat a little less. Of weight loss slows then eat a little less again. I wouldn't try and deprive yourself of things you enjoy, it will just become a horrible battle

I've just watched a good friend come out of an eating disorder which I never expected at our age

TillyTrotter Sat 11-Mar-23 14:40:35

I am not sure if it works out better than dumplings or not 🤨

TillyTrotter Sat 11-Mar-23 14:39:48

I made a lamb stew - no dumplings - but then I spooned it into a casserole and put sliced potatoes on the top, cooking them until they were crisp.
Does anyone know the value of a reasonable (not large) portion of stew with sliced potatoes calorie-wise?
Carrots, onions, swede and tomatoes were included.

VioletSky Thu 09-Mar-23 19:55:05

Tilly

Maybe have the same amount of dumplings but make them smaller and take smaller bites... I am doing this with roast potatoes to truck my brain, seems to work

TillyTrotter Thu 09-Mar-23 19:13:27

Well done VioletSky , it must be satisfying ticking another box.
I eat a weetabix for breakfast almost every day of the year.
A hearty stew sounds great SachaMac and I may make one tomorrow. Trouble is I like dumplings and that’s not so good.

VioletSky Thu 09-Mar-23 18:59:59

I've ticked my 4th box today, 4 pounds off.

Still plodding on no matter what the scale says day to day because human bodies are weird.

Thinking about cutting out my morning snack next, I may add it to my lunch instead and change my lunch to something bread free...

I'm weird with food, once I decide I like something I'll eat that for lunch every day. I ate one slice of toast with marmite and one slice of toast with philadelphia for breakfast every day for about 15 years lol I don't eat breakfast any more though, just makes me sleepy these days and mornings are smoother without it

Shinamae Thu 09-Mar-23 17:13:55

I find at the moment l just eat,seldom because I’m hungry…. 🤷‍♀️😐🤦🏼‍♀️

NanKate Thu 09-Mar-23 14:56:00

Whiff and Doodledog we are bound to get the occasional difference of opinion on this thread, but none of it ever gets nasty, like we find on other threads.

Onwards and downwards 👎

SachaMac Thu 09-Mar-23 13:20:24

Very heavy snow here Whiff I’ve made a hearty healthy stew for later.

Whiff Thu 09-Mar-23 05:51:04

MayBee my eating is psychological as well I eat if happy,sad,unwell,angry, lonely any reason. Still do but the old me it would have been chocolate,cakes, biscuits,cheese and bread with lots of spread and jam. Now it's fruit ,yogurt,porridge or Weetabix. It's a fight not to give in but when I do because I am addicted to weighting and measuring and counting calories I always know how much I have over eaten by. Mad I know. I stopped feeling guilty about over eating years ago once I started on this weight loss journey. As the old me feeling guilty made me give up. And now I won't give up. I do not want to be the old me. I left her behind in my old house. That me existed this me lives my life to the full.

We are never to old to change nor learn new things. I kept my mind and body as active as I can . My body stops me at times but after looking after my mom with dementia I am fighting hard to keep my mind active . If I can't think of how to spell a word I don't Google it or look it up in a dictionary even if it takes me days I work out how to spell it. If I read something I don't understand I will research it and find out about it.

I do not want my daughter to see what dementia does to a person. Luckily everytime she and her brother saw mom which was only ever few months as they both lived 100+ miles away she didn't know who they where but was happy to talk but it was as if they where friends she knew as a child. They never saw the horrible side of dementia and I haven't told them. As I never wanted them to think badly of their nan . But it wasn't my mom . My mom died long before her body did.

As NanKate and others have said we have to find a way to lose weight which suits us. Finding a way is hard and sticking to it harder. But it's important to eat enough well balanced meals a day for our bodies to function. Some like me find I eat 3 meals a day others find 5-6 little meals better. But it's important to eat or your body will go into starvation mode and instead of using our fat reserves to use as energy it will store them just to keep vital organs going. It's mad I know but reading up about it ,it makes sense.

Hopefully none of you are waking up to heavy snow. We had bits yesterday but it doesn't stick to windy. But was bitter cold. Keep warm everyone .

MayBee70 Wed 08-Mar-23 23:49:08

Whiff. I saw a programme once that said that the most filling thing to eat was soup and it staved off hunger for longer. But I find anything liquid: soup, smoothies even stews don’t fill me. I need to do lots of chewing to convince my brain that I’ve had a meal! Then again I tend not to eat because I actually feel hungry because I very rarely feel hungry and the less I eat the less hungry I feel. At the same time I don’t have anything that makes me think I’ve ate enough and need to stop. If I’m eating crisps or a box of chocolates I can just carry on eating ad infinitum if I’m in a binge mood. Which is usually when I’m tired. My eating is very psychological.

Doodledog Wed 08-Mar-23 20:38:53

Oh for goodness sake. I specifically said that I was not saying that anyone on this thread was being condescending. I am also being honest, and find condescending comments, well, condescending, but I wasn't 'aiming' my remark at anyone.

I'll leave you to it.

Whiff Wed 08-Mar-23 19:56:20

Doodledog if you find my comments condescending I am only being honest.

Yes there are some medical conditions which put on weight and make it harder to lose weight. But we decide what to put in our mouths no one forces us.to eat. But losing weight is not impossible but it is hard. And it's a daily struggle not to over eat especially if you are having physical or mental or both health problems.

But with the support here we are helping eachother. We all have highs and lows . At the moment I am having lows as I am struggling with my mobility. But I still carry on eating less for life. I still go to my exercise class even though in pain all the time and have been for 35 years. But there are others here in constant pain and struggle daily with their health or the health of loved ones. But we are united in our aim to lose weight no matter how long it takes. And we are doing it the sensible way by cutting our calorie intake and exercising as much as we can.

Sorry NanKate if I have caused a note of discord but by it was obvious who Doodledog's comment was aimed at.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Mar-23 18:26:11

Because I’m still doing my decluttering I can’t get into a proper eating pattern again. But I am going away in a couple of weeks for 4 weeks and I’ll be doing the 16:8 diet again. Still eating healthily but still eating too much…and can’t get to the gym because there are road works between my house and the gym and instead of getting there in 15 minutes there are horrendous queues.

MayBee70 Wed 08-Mar-23 18:22:40

I seem to remember some people being seriously ill after taking one brand of slimming pill. Can’t remember which one it was. I’d worry that an irreversible vaccine might stop your body absorbing vital nutrients as well.

SachaMac Wed 08-Mar-23 17:24:15

We all want a quick fix but I wouldn’t fancy being injected with anything else, had enough with the Covid vaccines. I heard this week that some GP’s in partnership with local councils are paying for 12 weeks at Slimming World for people with a BMI of above 30 or 27 for people from certain ethnic groups or who are at risk of certain health conditions like Type 2 diabetes. This is probably much more cost effective than having people going along to GP’s for ‘jabs’ and in the long term likely to be more effective as it seems after 68 weeks the average person had only lost 12% of their weight on the injections, plus it has side effects like diarrhoea & nausea, I see certain celebs have been using it, some of whom weren't that overweight to start with. Mmm I think I’ll be giving it a miss.

I remember my mum taking slimming pills in the 70’s Whiff she couldn’t sleep on them and felt awful so she ended up flushing them down the toilet.

I’m struggling but just about holding my own and maintaining my weight but I really need to start losing again as my clothes are very snug. Hope everyone else is having a good week.

VioletSky Wed 08-Mar-23 15:57:16

I'm overweight because my metabolism changed and I didn't change my diet.

It was nice being able to eat whatever I liked when I was ill and now a habit that needs to be broken

Shinamae Wed 08-Mar-23 14:49:16

Shinamae

Shinamae

I might have a go at that strength with Alex doodle, I really need to do some exercise.
I have been completely off plan this last week, I can’t tell you what I’ve eaten. I’m too ashamed..
As the old saying goes the mind is willing, but the flesh is weak, I just completely lack motivation for anything, housework included… Anyway, I will keep following this thread and well done to all of you and special Thanks to Whiff, always so encouraging…💐💐

And for me, the job would be a definite, no no, I know what I’ve got to do to lose weight and I’ve just got to find the motivation to do it

JAB🤦‍♀️

Shinamae Wed 08-Mar-23 14:48:49

Shinamae

I might have a go at that strength with Alex doodle, I really need to do some exercise.
I have been completely off plan this last week, I can’t tell you what I’ve eaten. I’m too ashamed..
As the old saying goes the mind is willing, but the flesh is weak, I just completely lack motivation for anything, housework included… Anyway, I will keep following this thread and well done to all of you and special Thanks to Whiff, always so encouraging…💐💐

And for me, the job would be a definite, no no, I know what I’ve got to do to lose weight and I’ve just got to find the motivation to do it

Shinamae Wed 08-Mar-23 14:47:57

I might have a go at that strength with Alex doodle, I really need to do some exercise.
I have been completely off plan this last week, I can’t tell you what I’ve eaten. I’m too ashamed..
As the old saying goes the mind is willing, but the flesh is weak, I just completely lack motivation for anything, housework included… Anyway, I will keep following this thread and well done to all of you and special Thanks to Whiff, always so encouraging…💐💐

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