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PamelaJ1 Mon 01-Jul-24 08:06:34

Not counting calories or cutting down, not even trying very hard.
Tim Spector is recommending that we eat 30 different plants in a month. You don’t have to eat much of any of them just have to have variety.
For example I have just had my turmeric and pepper in yogurt
Next up are two fruits, rhubarb and mango with my weetabix.
I’ve already had a cup of tea and now I have a coffee.
That’s 7 already.
Trouble is that tomorrow I won’t be able to count any of them.
I won’t bore you all with details on everything I eat over the next 30 days but will give you the total.

lizzypopbottle Tue 02-Jul-24 12:50:50

Some foods are very high in food miles! Avocado is one of them. Good for individuals, bad for the world! Perhaps the prof should set a better example...

knspol Tue 02-Jul-24 13:20:44

I could easily manage 30 portions a week but 30 DIFFERENT portions a week I would find very hard as I do tend to eat the same things - must try harder!

Quizzer Tue 02-Jul-24 13:20:46

Just being pedantic, rhubarb is not scientifically a fruit!

MayBee70 Tue 02-Jul-24 13:24:05

mabon1

I have read that organic fruits and vegetables are no better for us than the less-expensive "ordinary" fruit and veg.

DH’s brothers oncologist told him to never eat carrots that weren’t organic because of what they are sprayed with.

PilgrimQuill Tue 02-Jul-24 13:24:49

And then there's chocolate - from the healthy cocoa bean grin

PamelaJ1 Tue 02-Jul-24 13:45:51

grandtante I haven’t costed it but perhaps fruit and veg are cheaper here, I don’t know.
You don’t need a lot of anything for it to be counted. I’m finding that so far I’m not buying anything that I wouldn’t normally. Dried/frozen fruit and veg will count and pumpkin , sunflower seeds, desiccated coconut also have a reasonable shelf life if they are kept in jars.
A teabag counts as does a sprinkling of herbs or spices. I counted the nutmeg on my rice pudding last night, unfortunately it’s still rice pudding weather here!
lizzypopbottle asked about carbohydrate dense plants. Yes they all count. I hadn’t thought about sugar but I suppose it is a plant. I never think of it as being good for me so don’t add it to much, still there was some in the pudding so one more tick.😂
For those of you, and there seem to be a lot, who suffer from IBS it must be quite difficult all round. It never occurs to me that a food might upset me, I am lucky.

PamelaJ1 Tue 02-Jul-24 13:47:14

Quizzer

Just being pedantic, rhubarb is not scientifically a fruit!

Oh dear. Wrist slapped.

M0nica Tue 02-Jul-24 14:21:32

knspol

I could easily manage 30 portions a week but 30 DIFFERENT portions a week I would find very hard as I do tend to eat the same things - must try harder!

It is in fact incredibly easy. Two of mine, today, to be added to the 20 I ate yesterday., are 1/8 teaspoon of cummin and a very small quantity of capers, both used in the topping on a piece of fish 9with other ingredients.

By the time you count up all the odd ingredients you add when you assemble a dish, plus condiments - jams, chutneys, horseradish, mustard etc - it really adds up very quickly and easily.

lizzypopbottle Tue 02-Jul-24 14:24:17

If we're being pedantic about fruit or not fruit, many people refuse to acknowledge that tomatoes, bell peppers, chillis, squashes and many more are fruits! If it contains seeds, it's a fruit but it may not necessarily be sweet. A coconut isn't a nut, it's a fruit...and most nuts are also fruits. Whadayaknow! 😅 (Google has the dibs on everything!)

JennyCee Tue 02-Jul-24 14:48:42

PamelaJI. In your original post you stipulate 30 in a month and later your say 30 in a week.
I’m assuming 30 in a month is too easy??

Cambia Tue 02-Jul-24 15:01:40

Have been doing 30 plants a week for a year now and feel so much better and fitter. Just got back from three weeks in Canada and it was impossible to do whilst away. Eating out everyday was hard to find enough plants. Felt unfit when I got back, so last week managed 60 plants in a week and already feeling better.
I use an app called Plantverisfy which is really easy and keeps count each week for you. Lots of things count, tea, coffee, green teas, herbs, spices etc etc.
Think Zoe is interesting but expensive and don’t want to get obsessed over what I am eating so not joining that. Also think it is beginning to become a little bit of a money spinner??
I really notice the difference in energy and health, the three weeks I wasn’t eating so many vegs though, so going to carry on.

TiggyW Tue 02-Jul-24 15:06:14

I thought that the most important part of eating fruit and veg was to eat a wide variety of colours.

LovesBach Tue 02-Jul-24 15:06:46

Skydancer

We try to eat as much fruit and veg as possible but only organic. If you read what is put on the soil in normal farming practices it is horrifying. Human faeces are often spread on fields. With the overuse of drugs and antibiotic in humans this is not a pleasant thought. One of our local MPs is trying to get this practice banned. Organic farms do not allow this.

This is quite stomach turning, I agree. An elderly allotment grower informed me that tomato seeds pass through the human system, and evidently superb tomato plants grow in abundance around sewage farms. Oh yuk yuk.

winterwhite Tue 02-Jul-24 15:08:57

Wouldn’t it be simpler just to eliminate meat and dairy?

Callistemon213 Tue 02-Jul-24 15:10:38

LovesBach

Skydancer

We try to eat as much fruit and veg as possible but only organic. If you read what is put on the soil in normal farming practices it is horrifying. Human faeces are often spread on fields. With the overuse of drugs and antibiotic in humans this is not a pleasant thought. One of our local MPs is trying to get this practice banned. Organic farms do not allow this.

This is quite stomach turning, I agree. An elderly allotment grower informed me that tomato seeds pass through the human system, and evidently superb tomato plants grow in abundance around sewage farms. Oh yuk yuk.

😁
Many plants you see in strange places may be grown from seeds passed through birds. The perfect growing conditions .

Greciangirl Tue 02-Jul-24 15:19:13

I have started buying Sauerkraut from Tesco.
It comes in tubs and is flavoured with garlic and dill.
It’s live and naturally fermented.
I find it very tasty and I think it’s helping my gut health a lot.

BettyBoop49 Tue 02-Jul-24 15:28:17

Make a Ministrone Soup once week and throw in everything you can find, plus herbs and spices (which count towards your 30 a week) mixed nuts and seeds on yoghurt and salad and your there!!

Gundy Tue 02-Jul-24 15:56:36

Original poster said “30 plants a month” - not in a day or a week. That means servings.

Easily achievable, even in a week. But tea and coffee as a plant serving? Only if you want to cheat. It’s a liquid, plant based, but has no fiber or nutrients. And then there’s cream/sugar added sometimes.

Also beware of your inclusion of processed food which can be plant based but has gone through the wringer in its production.

I am going to look into this book. I’m interested in expanding my consumption of more natural foods. (But I can’t resist chips 😜 your crisps(?)

4allweknow Tue 02-Jul-24 16:19:09

30 different plants would be a lot harder than 30 different portions me thinks. That's about 8 different plants a week.

M0nica Tue 02-Jul-24 16:23:24

grandtante it isn't 30 portions of fruit and veg, it is 30 plants, so it an include the herbs and spices you use in cooking, condiments. I had spoonful of apple chutney with a ham salad - that counts.

I am actually finding that for anyone one with a very ordinary eating regime, as long as it includes fruit and veg, it is remarkably easy. I am up to nearly 25 in two days.

Whatever was said in the OP. the recommendation is 30 plants a week, whch will include wheat and other such crops and potatoes, and, yes, chocolate.

Have a look at this list medium.com/nutrition-wow-words-of-wisdom/are-you-getting-your-30-each-week-dcd6e435089b

PamelaJ1 Tue 02-Jul-24 18:09:06

JennyCee

PamelaJI. In your original post you stipulate 30 in a month and later your say 30 in a week.
I’m assuming 30 in a month is too easy??

Yes Jenny if you read the next couple of posts then that point was clarified.
Much too easy😂

PamelaJ1 Tue 02-Jul-24 19:59:13

I have changed the title now jenny
Like you Monica I am finding it much easier than I expected.
I’m up to 24 after 2 days so without trying. I couldn’t count breakfast this morning because it was the same as yesterday’s.
I didn’t have curry after all so not as high as I thought today.
Wonder if red wine counts?
Gundy I won’t swear that tea and coffee count but I think they do. Tea leaves are just dried tea leaves and coffee beans are just beans that have been roasted. If dried herbs are counted why not tea and coffee?

BeverleyJB Tue 02-Jul-24 21:12:54

It's supposed to be 30 a day, & not portions - so a cup of tea counts as does a sprinkling of herbs on your dinner. Some people may be interested in the results of this study which appear to show benefits. Worst case scenario, a more varied diet isn’t going to do any harm!

zoe.com/learn/daily30-does-it-work?utm_medium=email&utm_source=braze&utm_campaign=biweekly_newsletter&utm_content=02_07_24_leads_va&utm_term=icymi&lid=h2ji1nivw8sv

Casdon Tue 02-Jul-24 22:20:29

It’s 30 a week for the mainstream advice. 30 a day is the next level.
zoe.com/learn/30-plants-per-week#:~:text=Eating%2030%20different%20plants%20a,herbs%2C%20and%20spices%2C%20too.

Shirleyw Wed 03-Jul-24 05:59:56

I see Waitrose are going to sell Zoe 30+daily from middle of July…..
Has anyone done or doing the ‘Zoe’ way?