Does telling children fairytales make them irrational?

The horrors of what was going on in the real world of Brothers Grimm could only be handled by using imagery & metaphor as carriers of an awful truth. Many of these stories are universal, found with different details in many parts of the world. They follow a similar pattern, even the modern ones like Star Wars, - main character (human, animal or object), a mission to be achieved, obstacles often involving evil to be overcome, finding people or things to help overcome the obstacles & the overcoming of the obstacles to achieve the mission. What else is real life about Mr Dawkins & told in a way that young & old, ignorant & clever can understand at many different levels. Who would or could listen to a purely factual account or have their imaginations stimulated in order to create their own solutions to life's problems?

So because you have decided, it's no longer a fairy tale, is that right?
What's your definition of a fairy tale?

He didn't know how we'd view his works 200 years later.

Most children's books are fairy tales if you take that view!

Kingsley called it a fairy tale. He wrote it, so he should know.

I agree with you, rosesarered. The Water Babies is a proper book, as is Peter Pan - they're not fairy tales.

Enabling and encouraging children to use their imaginations is always a good thing. Fairy stories and the likes of Roald Dahl have been good for my girls. We all need to look at life from a different angle and when very young a fairy story ( and I am sure all children soon realise that its not real life) lets children flex their 'imagination' muscle.

I suppose I tend to think of 'fairy stories' as things like Red Riding Hood, Cinderella, , Grimms, or Hans Anderson etc rather than actual fairies.

The Water Babies was written in 1862. Not that new.

newist I see that you like the old spelling.... faeries?Does The Water Babies count as a fairy story?It's not that old is it, Charles Kingsley? Or have I got the wrong book.I have to say I never believed in fairies, even as a child I thought of them as just something in books.Not sure why, as I believed in Father Christmas.I bought the flower fairy books for my DC and they loved them and used to spend ages searching the forget-me-knots in the garden because in the books it says 'here's where fairy babies lie!'

roses I still get presents of faeries from my daughters, I have a 2ft high "Tinkerbell" which has pride of place because 1, I like faeries and 2, It was a present .
The "Water Babies" was the first book I can remember reading, especially the character "Mrs Do as You Would Be Done By" I did learn from that. always treat people, as you would like to be treated

Great stuff fairy tales. I remember my Dad reading the water babies to me and my sister when we were quite small.

I'm all for fairy tales1

newist you are scaring us now!

Oh, and the Wizard of Oz!

I refused to read 'the Princess and the Pea' to my kids! Such a wet princess.

The Water Babies I wish I still had....it was only long after that I realise it had such an effect. ..... Mrs Doasyouwouldbedoneby?

Today's fairy stories are Harry Potter. Most children love them.

I grew up in a fairly dysfunctional home and as a voracious reader books were both my escape and my guide. It was from good old Aesop, the brothers Grimm, H.C Anderson etc. that my moral compass was set fairly early on in life. I still remember quite vividly my reaction to Charles Kingsley's The Water Babies.

Are we talking about modern stories about fairies or Grimm, Andersen and co? My DGS and my DS before them absolutely loved them, also Greek and Roman mythology and the Norse stuff. I think young children are naturally irrational not to say nuts. We have that on the great Homer's authority - Simpson, not the poet.

Being an extremist, whether atheist or flat earther makes people irrational, o the rest of us it just comes naturally - and is so enjoyable.

Of course there are fairies. My DGD told me so!!

Also my ex DH is married to the Evil Stepmother, the wicked witch of the west.

The only bits that ever annoyed me were all the princes getting all the action while the princesses waited to be rescued. I bought every role-reversal fairy story book I could lay my hands on for my daughter.

Fairy tales must of effected me then, I have many fairies in my house, and I believe in them!! If the real world gets to me, in my head I switch to fairy land, it works for me. Many people have told me "I am away with the fairies"

I loved fairy stories and was an avid reader of them all when I was a child. The only downside was discovering not all men where knights in shining armour! I also believed in fairies - especially when my aunt showed me a fairy ring when we were on holiday once; evidence at last

I read fairy stories to both of my children and my grandchildren - they really enjoyed them too. When I was walking in a plantation once with my granddaughters (both of them obsessed with Winnie the Pooh), I pointed to a hollowed tree and said 'ooh, look, I wonder if that's where Kanga lives' - from that day on, when walking in that plantation, we had to always go and check the tree to see they were there lol. My eldest granddaughter helps to look after a 2 year old girl and she takes the little girl to the plantation to show her Kanga's tree!

I think fairy stories help to develop a child's mind and expand their imaginations.

My daughters loved fairy tales , the younger one believed in fairies and loved walking through woods looking for what she was quite sure was the perfect home for fairies

Didn't affect her in anyway , unless the fact that having recently moved into a new house with large gardens and discussing the landscaping she was planning she said ' the hollow close to the silver birch is not to be disturbed, it's perfect for garden fairies' is proof that my 43 year old daughter was seriously affected in childhood by tales of fairies

I think they're there to help children face their fears [fears that they don't quite know that they have but are primevil; fear of wild animals/the dark etc] and are empowering.