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LGBT history

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Anniebach Tue 01-Nov-16 09:42:36

Corbyn has said his future government will add LGBT history to the school carriculum,

Yes ? No?

Zengran Thu 03-Nov-16 08:54:56

My granddaughter has lesbian parents and so her playgroup friends and home ed groups are aware of this. Any discussion has been age appropriate, and about orientation, certainly not sexual practises! They have also spoken about about single parent families, families that include different racial backgrounds and also people that have different belief or faiths all at an age appropriate level. Children are very accepting of others generally we find.

Anniebach Thu 03-Nov-16 08:41:33

A class of fourteen year olds, there will be no sniggering , a child who is confused about their sexuality is going to feel relief that she/ he can talk about it, and what will be said in the playground will positive and understanding.

HannahLoisLuke Thu 03-Nov-16 08:15:07

Sorry about the repost. I'd had so much trouble posting the first one that I thought it hadn't worked. So did it again this morning.
Incidentally, regarding children's books which only used to have white faces etc. I remember George in the Famous Five being very much a tomboy but nobody said she wanted to be a boy.

HannahLoisLuke Thu 03-Nov-16 07:59:41

I think all the talk about LBGT in recent years may have contributed to the sudden rash of young confused children thinking they've been born in the wrong body. Instead of being allowed to just grow out of it, or pursue it when they are older we now have a whole lucrative industry of councillers and social workers 'helping' them to realise their identity!
Everything is talked to death these days instead of just living with it.

Iam64 Thu 03-Nov-16 07:48:00

Granby puts it well in a few sentences. Plus, she was able to post multiple times - where any of mine more than two words won't post. Here goes

absent Wed 02-Nov-16 21:35:36

When Jeremy Corbyn referred to the school curriculum (see OP), does that apply throughout all the years of school education or just up to the end of primary school? If only the latter, then the posts here about children – presumably meaning young children – make some sense. If not, then some of them are wrongly dismissive and quite superficial.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:18

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:18

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:18

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:18

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:18

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

Granby Wed 02-Nov-16 21:13:17

Surely it's exactly the same situation as when most children's books contained only white faces, and now they have been made more culturally diverse. Why shouldn't that be done regarding sexual orientation? Books reflecting many varied types of people and families, together with classroom discussion, will help a lot of children to feel included and less marginalised.

grannypiper Wed 02-Nov-16 20:39:48

I agree Hannah. I was a toyboy and still am really.I don't fancy women and have never felt that i want to be a man. I read an article in the DM by a lady who was also a tomboy when she was young and really did want to be a boy, she pointed out that if she was a child today that no doubt she would be put on a gender re-alignment course, which would have been a disaster as it turns out she loves being a woman now and it was just a phase she was going through. Children cant make such life changing decisions and the liberals need to stop pushing through their on agenda

Ana Wed 02-Nov-16 19:55:05

I think there may be something in that, HannahLois.

I'm very glad that it's easier for teenagers and older to seek help and advice, but am uncomfortable with younger children being questioned about their gender.

HannahLoisLuke Wed 02-Nov-16 19:48:57

Perhaps all this focus on LBGT over the last few years has had something to do with why we now have so many confused children questioning whether they've been born into the wrong body. Instead of just allowing them to grow out of it as we 'tomboys' did we now have an army of councilers, social workers and sundry charities ready to jump on this lucrative bandwagon to 'help'
Just saying.

Iam64 Wed 02-Nov-16 19:38:00

It seems one sentence or words will post but not a paragraph.

Iam64 Wed 02-Nov-16 19:37:44

I give up.

Iam64 Wed 02-Nov-16 19:31:26

test

Legs55 Wed 02-Nov-16 19:01:57

marbles you are so right that children are accepting (more than adults). My DD is married to another woman (Civil Partnership 7 years ago & marriage ceremony, brief with only the two of them & Registrar 2 years ago), my DGS is 6 years old (donor - I'll spare the details) They are a very happy couple & DGS loves having a Mum & a Mummy.thlsmile

There are so many different family units now same sex parents, single parents, Mum & Dad, Grandparents caring for Grandchildren, I see no reason for this to be taught in schools thlconfused

I think this is just another of Jeremy Corbyn's "crackpot ideas" thlangry

Anniebach Wed 02-Nov-16 16:54:09

There will always be homophobia, ask a homophobe why and you will get the same answer I have received after asking several, the act of buggery , many men find the thought repulsive just as many woman are repulsed by the thought of a man buggering them

grannypiper Wed 02-Nov-16 16:39:57

we can discuss Jeremy Corbyns dreams til the cows come hom but they will stay just that, dreams, he will never be voted in as Prime Minister.

Anniebach Wed 02-Nov-16 14:49:31

Children who hate are taught hatred by family, no way can the number of children in catholic schools compare with the number of children at state schools

MaryXYX Wed 02-Nov-16 14:04:26

One problem is that children are often taught to hate - Catholic Schools were mentioned earlier. If left to themselves they will accept diverse families, but so often they are not allowed to.

Ruth1958 Wed 02-Nov-16 13:25:31

More crap in the curriculum...

rafichagran Wed 02-Nov-16 13:12:19

No, this is really not nessasary.