Excluded from school

Except alternative arrangements are few and far between and have suffered hugely because of funding cuts, so now a child may only get a couple of hours contact a eek nd a lot of worksheets.
varian that child may have a lot of problems. Just as his behaviour in the classroom was unacceptable so is your condemnation when you know nothing of the causes.

This seems to be the current legal position:
www.gov.uk/school-discipline-exclusions/exclusions
So if it's a permanent exclusion the Local Govt. have the responsibility of providing alternative education.

This child obviously needs professional help and it may be that is not as available as it should be but he will not have been excluded from school without very good reason. One of my grandchildren, along with the rest of her classmates in the first year at secondary school, has had her lessons constantly disrupted and been subjected to threats and very nasty behaviour from a child who has now been excluded. However the school had to follow a rigorous number of steps involving other sanctions before this could happen.

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Tee time he’s probably not a bad lad he may be going through a horrendous time and unfortunately some kids anxiety even panic comes out in huge aggression They are sometimes cross at their own behaviour but cannot verbalise it rationally as we can
I m in no way knocking teachers but the dreadful critics some kids face on a daily basis is no wonder so man6 young people contemplate suicide eating disorders self harming etc
I don’t think it is interfering to offer some friendship surely that’s the problem in the world everyone leaves it to someone else and everyone turns their back I m not religious but isn’t that what the Good Samaritan was all about
I d engage in conversation if you get the opportunity either with him or the parents
I have a 18 year old live near me who used to have awful tempers that rang around the house agarden, he was thrown out of school, bullied because of his size and now doesn’t leave his room because of panic attacks
Good luck @nd well done for having a heart x

Thank you all for your thoughts. I do take every opportunity there is to smile at him and say hello and he does respond. I think he is a nice boy but troubled and of course I don't know what's at the bottom of all this nor should I. Its just that when I see what happened the other day - he was hammering at his bedroom window and shouting 'don't leave me' to his Mum who looked as though she was going to work my heart breaks for him. Perhaps its best then to be willing to offer help if it looks welcome but MMOB! So sad for him.

A relative of mines son was regularly excluded from school for very good reason. He was eventually thrown out altogether and then a second time from another school . So personally would be friendly Teetime but stay out of it as you don’t know what you could be inviting .

I agree that you should not actively ‘interfere’ (can’t think of a better word but don’t mean it to sound like that) but I do think that a smile and a ‘hello’ would be nice. If that’s we’ll received then you might add a few more words...?

I have great sympathy for both the boy and his parents. I expect the parents are keeping themselves to them selves as they already feel ostracised by their child’s exclusions and possibly worry about unpleasant comments.
My own DD’s were difficult as teenagers in different ways, and I know I felt hugely embarrassed and a failure as a mother as everyone else seemed to have perfect families?
It was only much later that I learned of similar issues with teenagers but just more successful hidden from public view. The DDs have all turned out beautifully despite the rocky teenage years and I hope that this young man may too.
He may have special educational needs or he may need counselling services, either way the school should be helping him to access and support available. I also agree that he is missing a lot of school especially as he will only be in year 8 or 9 and will find it harder to catch up.

Keep out of it and MYOB is my advice. You don't know what is all ready in the pipeline or being sought for this child and getting involved could bring you all sorts of trouble in the future..from the boy himself...from the parents..from the authorities.
It's difficult but you may be entirely wrong about who or what is the reason behind the exclusions it could be violence and he could turn on you .
Stay well away.

You could just try smiling and saying "Hello" to him and his parents when you see them. Sometimes parents are at their wit's end and think everyone will see them as bad people and their son as a criminal. Just knowing you still regard them as friends and neighbours may make them feel better.
On the other hand he may respond in a very negative way. Sometimes children who are excluded are in a very bad place and don't respond well to offers of help. They can be very difficult to reach. I do admire you for caring about him, so many people just regard excluded children as scum.

J52 - that is disappointing news, but not surprising.
I worked as an EP, retired in 1991, and at that time we were well staffed, with a few special units in the city.
But surely it's up to the school to arrange some kind of provision for this boy - it can't be right to just throw him out on the street, where he's likely to end up joining a gang of similar boys.

I agree with the comments about professional help, but in the last 10 years SEN education and support has been the subject of huge cuts. Mentors and other in house strategies are luxuries, when money is tight for text books.
In the last LA that I worked for, Educational Psychologists
were assigned to a group of schools so that we had almost an on demand service. Then EP numbers were reduced, they were made redundant and then bought in from consultancies. This resulted in huge costs and long waiting lists.
Assessment for ( what used to be)a Statement of Educational Need had to take place within 6 weeks. Now Statements are no more, replaced by a more complex document. ( in order to delay?? )
I expect this poor boy’s parents and school are at their wits end trying to get the situation resolved.

Agree professional need to be involved.

What about offering to reach him a bit of golf?
A nice calm activity that has the added benefit of using a little maths

It sounds as if he needs professional help rather than exclusion. It’s true teachers can’t be expected to teach someone who behaves like that, but surely there is some sort of psychiatric help available. It would be interesting to know his background and how the parents cope.