Bored at university!!??

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I would rather say that studying at university is difficult. Because of the heavy workload, sometimes studying gets boring. But if you organize your learning process properly, it will be a little easier. When I have a big workload I turn to assignmentbro.com/us/english-assignment-help to help me cope with some writing tasks. That makes my student life much easier.

And ditto your last post.

So bigoted to think that lesbians who say they will not have sex with penises dont deserve rape threats!

...which was obviously not what I was referring to, was it? Don’t put words in my mouth.

Sooo funny that students who have been traumatised by assault cant specify which sex doctor or councellor they see at the uni medical centre for intimate therapy or physical exams.

Ha ha ha. Funny.

All 3 of my daughters did mix at university. They definitely didn't just keep to themselves. The youngest found halls very good for getting to know people.
I think it depends on the University

I know! So bigoted to think that lesbians who say they will not have sex with penises dont deserve rape threats!

I’m laughing at the thought of telling my HR department or Equality Officer to stop putting their triggered little fingers in their ears, and that my bigoted views are actually a learning opportunity for other staff

Universities ARE tolerating extreme views about gender. And people who threaten violence against anyone who believes in biological sex..
.... just not anyone who expresses concerns about this trend..

You can debate all you like - but not when those views are offensive or deliberately inflammatory. University campuses do not have to tolerate such extreme views.

"Know your enemy"
Learning what makes other peoples views tick is much more productive than putting your triggered little fingers in your ears and blocking all opposing views from your bubble.

Things like religion and gender should be up for debate. You cant have a debate with only one side.

Or perhaps - to quote some of the examples you give - we no longer tolerate racist, sexist or bigoted views on campus in the same way we wouldn’t in any other workplace? Eg if I said “The Islamic movement is a movement that slaughters people in the Middle East and Africa. It’s important for us to speak about it and criticise it” at work I could quite rightly find myself in front of HR. I don’t think arts students ever had the moral high ground in that respect.

Uni was supposed to be about becoming more well rounded and open to ideas.

Notanan, I agree that subjects such as the ones you mention are under pressure; but I disagree that this is because of 'dogmatic extreme left-wing groups controlling universities'.

Nope. I didnt say that the left dominance in unis causes the arts to be crushed.

The othet way around: the crushing of the arts subjects has reduced the sort of debate, range of viewpoints and critical thinking which prevents the echo chamber effect. This is why the extreme tactics of the "woke" have taken over un checked.

Uni used to be a time when you could play devild advocate, explore alternativs views etc. The arts subjects actively encourage this

Cross-posted, SirChenjin. So I both agree and disagree with both you and Notanan .

My degree is not the degree usually linked to my profession. But a degree is required. And they accept mine because an undergrad degree is about commiting to and competing that academic level.

I did some study as a mature student so have a student loan, which is nothing like a bank loan, I didnt have to pay it when I was a stay at home mum. I never have to pay the full amount unless I earn a good amount consistantly. Even mortgage companies do not want to know the total just the repayments.

Notanan, I agree that subjects such as the ones you mention are under pressure; but I disagree that this is because of 'dogmatic extreme left-wing groups controlling universities'.

It is more because the high student fees involved in education nowadays often means that parents encourage their children to take courses that 'can lead to a job', and lose sight of the things that have been discussed upthread. The expansion of HE has meant that a significant percentage of students are from families who have no experience in it, so the value of an education for its own sake, or because it teaches critical thinking is sometimes not fully understood. Without student numbers, with the money that they bring in, courses are threatened.

Also, there is far more money in research that leads to an end product, so it is easier to get funding for research into pharmaceuticals, or engineering than it is for literature or history. This will get worse after Brexit, of course, but now that universities are businesses in the so-called 'real world' that so many hold dear, preferential treatment of financially viable subjects has been happening for years, regardless of the impact on the education of our young people.

I would absolutely discourage any of my children from studying subjects which don’t lend themselves to direct entry into careers. Degrees are too expensive and the workplace too competitive to spend many thousands on a arts degree that are 2 a penny and which then require further study ( and cost) to translate it into something which employers actually want.

They are meant to make you a more rounded person. Not an X professional.

There are arguably more lifelong benefits to these degrees over your lifetime, and in your whole life (not just career) than a professional degree.

I would not discourage say an arts history degree if my girls wanted to do that. There is so much about politics, theology, propoganda etc in these arts degrees. I think its such a valuable thing to learn. In itself, not as a means to an end

English lit, history and philosphy, these subjects lose funding as a result. These are the more critical thinking subjects that teach you more than the subject, they teach you analysis. They do not funnel you into X job. But they're not supposed to

The NUSs recent widespread bullying behaviour suggests otherwise...

And it just stands to reason, when you dont have the same range of lecturer type or subject range, you are more likely to create an echo chamber where you once had a "meeting of minds".

Lecturers in subjects that dont naturally lend themselve to frequent quantative research have suffered and been let go. Those that can churn out publications which dont require as much critical thinking are the ones keeping their jobs!

I’m well aware of thsee examples notanan - but please don’t make hyperbolic clsims about extreme left wing groups controlling universities right across the UK. They don’t.

*A degree is sadly not always a passport to a great career.
I think too many graduates have little experience of life and may leave university with a degree but cannot apply themselves to using their qualifications.*

A degree is not intended to be a passport to a great career. It is evidence that the holder has reached a certain standard of education, and has in-depth knowledge of the subject area.

Of course graduates have little experience of life - they are 21! Compared to those of the same age who do not go to university, though, many of them have mixed with a broader range of people, and have been exposed to a range of outlooks and cultures.

The days when a degree automatically gave elite status are long gone, and IMO that is a good thing. When only five or ten percent of people went to university, they were almost guaranteed a professional or managerial role, whereas now more people are given the opportunity to work in those roles, but have to compete for them, as there are more fish in the pond.

The 'losers' are those who, in the past, would have been set up for life with a well-paid job, regardless of their suitability for management, or their innate ability, simply because their parents could afford to send them to university. The other side of this is that far more people have those opportunities but a degree is not as scarce a commodity, so is only a 'passport' in the sense that it allows you to join the queue for boarding. It is not diminished in its own right, though - it is still proof of high level study, and the university experience is still valuable for many.

A lot of people lose sight of this, and want the advantages that came with the exclusivity of the past, whilst at the same time wanting their children/grandchildren to benefit from the more egalitarian access of the present.

www.timeshighereducation.com/blog/ucu-must-stand-academic-freedom-sex-and-gender

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6003331/Britains-official-transgender-student-officer-suspended.html