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Why do British royal children not go to state schools like the Scandanavian royals?

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varian Tue 23-Aug-22 19:12:25

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are about to send their three children to a private school near their new home in Windsor at a reported cost of over £50 pa just for the fees.

Would it not be better for them to send them to the local primary school?

www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/daniela-elser-kate-and-williams-kids-enrolling-in-ritzy-new-school-is-tone-deaf/HM2K3IDGIS3T3QG2WXLV67FIEU/

Joseanne Sun 28-Aug-22 07:51:04

Actually I think fewer than 50% of ISC schools are academically selective.

Also I believe the number of SEND children in independent schools is around 17%. The state system would be overwhelmed if it suddenly had to accommodate them all.

volver Sun 28-Aug-22 08:06:40

Oh thank goodness for private schools. Where would the state sector be without them, and the selfless parents paying to make sure their kids get a llama while everybody else's has to wear woolly hats in the classroom.

Joseanne Sun 28-Aug-22 08:19:39

He he! grin
On sale in White Stuff. Just ordered one each for DGCs.

TerriBull Sun 28-Aug-22 08:32:49

Oh I rather think state schools would aim lower and go for the smaller version, an alpaca say, what they lack in height they more than make up for in looks a prettier version of the camel faced llama. Why every school should have a brace of alpacas or whatever the collective noun might be. Frightfully good wool I believe, come in handy for the making of blankets when the heating becomes unaffordable!

Pantglas2 Sun 28-Aug-22 08:36:51

“So, if you are a great believer in the principles of the NHS with excellent treatment for all, but you are on a 3 year waiting list and in pain, or at risk of serious disease- do you, or do you not, seek private health care if you can afford it? Especially if it is for your child? Do you sacrifice that child for your prnciples?“ FleurPepper

I’m not aware that Diane Abbott used private healthcare?

my reference was her hypocrisy in suggesting that black mothers will go to the wall for their children and that’s why she was prepared to send her son to private school. As if white mothers don’t care.

For the record I have no problem with anyone spending their money on whatever they see fit, whether that’s fancy cars, holidays, homes, private schools or healthcare. It’s the hypocrisy of socialists telling everyone else to send their children to state schools but dropping those much vaunted principles when it comes to their own!

Fleurpepper Sun 28-Aug-22 09:06:49

The Heath Care comment was an example/comparison.

If the system, be it education or health care, is very poor- then I don't blame people for seeking alternatives, be it to get a good education and a safe environment for their kids (and children of politicians are at great risk of bullying, and perhaps even more so if not white), or health care if in pain and in danger, and can't access treatment (as we have seen here with many on GN)- AS LONG AS they then fight, with their vote or directly- to improve the system for ALL.

TerriBull Sun 28-Aug-22 09:12:19

I agree Pantglas, one or the other, private school if that's your choice but I don't think anyone who opts for that can honestly think of themselves as a socialist, surely a standardised education system would be a basic tenet that would underpin such ideals.

Anniebach Sun 28-Aug-22 09:30:50

Harold Wilson’s sons went to a fee paying school

volver Sun 28-Aug-22 09:33:14

Joseanne

He he! grin
On sale in White Stuff. Just ordered one each for DGCs.

Oh he he. How comical.

www.lbc.co.uk/news/schools-heating-jumpers/

The overwhelming empathy of the fee paying school fraternity. hmm

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:34:39

TerriBull

Oh I rather think state schools would aim lower and go for the smaller version, an alpaca say, what they lack in height they more than make up for in looks a prettier version of the camel faced llama. Why every school should have a brace of alpacas or whatever the collective noun might be. Frightfully good wool I believe, come in handy for the making of blankets when the heating becomes unaffordable!

Yes, it is excellent yarn, light, soft and very warm.

DS's state nursery had a large rabbit - does that count?
We had to take it in turns to take it home at weekends and in the holidays. I made the mistake of letting it hop around the garden.

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:38:53

Soared to 24” ?. I take it you meant 34

24 is correct (or around that figure)
2022 figures are not yet available.

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:42:18

and children of politicians are at great risk of bullying, and perhaps even more so if not white
Our Tory MP's DC go to the same state school as my DGC.

TerriBull Sun 28-Aug-22 09:50:05

I rather think not Callistemon, I mean how large a rabbit are you talking here, Harvey the Rabbit sized??? Good grief I wouldn't take one that size home anyway, just think of the droppings, I'd also be asking myself, would such a freak of a rodent be satisfied with a bog standard sized carrots shock

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:53:12

It was rather large Terribull and very fast.
It wasn't until DH came home that it was eventually caught.
I thought I was an expert rabbit handler but obviously not.

Mollygo Sun 28-Aug-22 09:53:24

volver

Oh thank goodness for private schools. Where would the state sector be without them, and the selfless parents paying to make sure their kids get a llama while everybody else's has to wear woolly hats in the classroom.

???
Making a bit of a drama llama there aren’t you Volver?

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 09:58:08

Dangerous animals, as defined by the Dangerous Wild Animals (DWA) Act 1976, may not be brought into school. This includes most monkeys and apes, crocodiles, alligators and poisonous snakes. It does not include domestic dogs and cats.

The NEU understands that there may have been instances where animals listed under the DWA Act 1976 have been bought into schools. Examples of such animals include caimans and other larger reptiles

neu.org.uk/advice/animals-education-and-guidance-farm-visits

Miss, Miss, can I bring my pet crocodile into school next week, please Miss? She's called Carmen and she's very cuddly.

volver Sun 28-Aug-22 10:03:11

Mollygo

volver

Oh thank goodness for private schools. Where would the state sector be without them, and the selfless parents paying to make sure their kids get a llama while everybody else's has to wear woolly hats in the classroom.

???
Making a bit of a drama llama there aren’t you Volver?

You didn't see my following post then?

Honestly, let them eat cake seems to be the prevailing sentiment here. In a thread that is littered with supporters of the fee-paying schools saying how they care about other children, the lack of empathy here is shocking.

To make a joke abut hats with llamas on them? It's pathetic.

volver Sun 28-Aug-22 10:03:59

Callistemon21

^Dangerous animals, as defined by the Dangerous Wild Animals (DWA) Act 1976, may not be brought into school. This includes most monkeys and apes, crocodiles, alligators and poisonous snakes. It does not include domestic dogs and cats^.

The NEU understands that there may have been instances where animals listed under the DWA Act 1976 have been bought into schools. Examples of such animals include caimans and other larger reptiles

neu.org.uk/advice/animals-education-and-guidance-farm-visits

Miss, Miss, can I bring my pet crocodile into school next week, please Miss? She's called Carmen and she's very cuddly.

See above.

What happened to your heart? Did the crocodile eat it?

Mollygo Sun 28-Aug-22 10:04:04

Miss, Miss, can I bring my pet crocodile into school next week, please Miss? She's called Carmen and she's very cuddly.

Same as Calvin’s dad offering to bring his huge anaconda in for the children to experience. It’s quite safe-it’s just been fed!

Callistemon21 Sun 28-Aug-22 10:09:20

? ?

TerriBull Sun 28-Aug-22 10:12:05

Definitely think big as far as in school animals are concerned, state schools may prefer their little caged rodents, but I'd say any school with paddocks for llamas could possibly accommodate a capybara or two. Imagine the joy pupils could experience wild swimming with a giant sized guinea pig, lovely! positively character building smile

Grany Sun 28-Aug-22 10:23:33

With cost of living crisis in Britain
New school at £50,000 and 4th grand House others kept empty for them.

They don't work just atend, spend public money on their own interests and passtimes in private jets climate hypocrites and helecopters as does all RF

George, Charlotte and Louis's new school facing parent backlash over change in 'vibe'

Grany Sun 28-Aug-22 10:25:06

The school where Prince William’s children will start in 11 days is facing an angry backlash from parents over beefed-up security.

George, nine, Charlotte, seven, and four-year-old Louis enrolled at Lambrook School near Ascot, Berks, after William and Kate’s move to nearby Adelaide Cottage in Windsor.

But parents of other pupils fear measures to keep the royals safe will disrupt the relaxed vibe.

Mollygo Sun 28-Aug-22 10:33:21

But Volver, you were the one who said,

Oh thank goodness for private schools. Where would the state sector be without them, and the selfless parents paying to make sure their kids get a llama while everybody else's has to wear woolly hats in the classroom.

I suppose now you’re going to claim it was irony or sarcasm or a joke-like saying you think being eaten by a crocodile is funny.

But it’s your choice and I won’t deny you the right to choose.

Who on GN hasn’t agreed that it would be good if all state schools were the same as the best ones, so that parents from all areas would not need to choose between state and private.

Who has come up with a workable idea of how that can happen?

Mollygo Sun 28-Aug-22 10:34:25

Oh and before I go . . .