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Compulsory Maths till you’re 18.

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Mollygo Wed 04-Jan-23 00:47:59

Sunak announced this.
It isn’t clear yet how this will happen yet.
I’m not asking about those GNs who chose to do maths after O levels/GCSE or for Highers/Advanced Highers in Scotland

I just wonder how many on GN, would have been happy to have that decision made for them.

JaneJudge Fri 06-Jan-23 16:11:55

All jobs require maths, even low paid employment. Everyone at my manufacturing environment has to use maths, sometimes with varying reliability but they all use maths. I use a maths that wasn't even taught in maths grin

volver Fri 06-Jan-23 16:08:58

I learnt touch typing on Friday afternoons growstuff. One term. Next term I did engine maintenance. Seriously. 🤣

I'll let you explain about Covid and associated graphs....

minniemouse Fri 06-Jan-23 16:07:01

Growstuff how did you get to Covid on this thread??
Basic Arithmetic and basic English Grammar ! That is all I am promoting !

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 16:06:05

volver

I should have spent more time on English 🤣

interpretations of graphs on the Covid threads

Or touch typing. The "i" and "o" on my keyboard have worn off and I frequently get them wrong. grin

volver Fri 06-Jan-23 16:05:32

Great minds growstuff, great minds!

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 16:04:42

Snap Volver.

volver Fri 06-Jan-23 16:04:26

I should have spent more time on English 🤣

interpretations of graphs on the Covid threads

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 16:04:05

minniemouse

Growstuff, what makes you think I tolerate someone who can't interpret a basic graph? Most are self explanatory.

You might think so, but the evidence before our eyes, especially at the start of the pandemic (even on GN) showed that some people can't interpret them.

volver Fri 06-Jan-23 16:02:51

minniemouse

Growstuff, what makes you think I tolerate someone who can't interpret a basic graph? Most are self explanatory.

Have a look at the interpretations if graphs on the Coivd threads and you might reconsider that.

Someone who worked with me gave me a report he'd written about something. There was a graph in it, I asked him what it showed. He told me he didn't know but he knew I liked graphs. 🤦🏼

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 16:02:21

Norah

growstuff

I'm stunned by the number of posters who say they hated maths at school and would have rebelled.

I hated English Literature, but just got on with it.

Indeed. I obviously hated English, all of it. Still had to get on.

Do I wish I gave classes I hated a better go? Yes.

I didn't hate English Language. I did German, French, Spanish and Latin at school. Language structure was like a code to me - a bit like maths.

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 16:00:03

volver

There are lots of people saying how they have never used maths in real life.

I can confidently say that I have never missed not knowing how to lay bricks.

On many other threads, there are those who support the idea of compulsory cooking in school. I have never had a cookery lesson in my life, but I can cook and eat healthily. The reason I can cook is that I was taught how to read and do maths, so I can adapt recipes to different quantities. I also understand the basics of good nutrition because I know how many calories my body needs and the recommended ratios of macronutrients, so I can work out meal plans with the right number of carbs, proteins and fat. That's maths in action.

Norah Fri 06-Jan-23 15:57:36

growstuff

I'm stunned by the number of posters who say they hated maths at school and would have rebelled.

I hated English Literature, but just got on with it.

Indeed. I obviously hated English, all of it. Still had to get on.

Do I wish I gave classes I hated a better go? Yes.

minniemouse Fri 06-Jan-23 15:56:57

Growstuff, what makes you think I tolerate someone who can't interpret a basic graph? Most are self explanatory.

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:52:16

minniemouse

Don't get me started on basic English either !
TV is populated by presenters who are 'sat' here 'stood' here, 'done' this and that.
I cringe at the poor English!

So why does that make you cringe, but you tolerate people who can't interpret a basic graph?

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:51:31

Granless

A lot of people are not academics but enjoy the arts and sport more so, as did I. Me thinks that taught monetary basics are missing - budgeting, prioritising.
Sideways move: Many people today don’t know how to budget and don’t know how to put together a cheap healthy meal - all this comes with Math. Prioritising, well, mobile phone is the top of many lists! I read an article on a young who was struggling financially, he said that he had given up his mobile phone and Netflix. Well done to a sensible young man.

Frankly, the young man is going to find it very difficult to participate in everyday life without a mobile phone. I don't really understand what that has to do with maths.

minniemouse Fri 06-Jan-23 15:49:47

Don't get me started on basic English either !
TV is populated by presenters who are 'sat' here 'stood' here, 'done' this and that.
I cringe at the poor English!

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:49:32

Yes, they'll have to go to college anyway.

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:48:59

Callistemon21

Anniepa

Am I missing something here? How can there be any objections to any sort of education?? It will not be A level type maths - no doubt skills to help with life eg banking, paying bills etc.

But what if they have left school at 16 and are in work which does not need maths? Will they have to go part-time to attend compulsory Maths lessons once or twice a week at college or school?

In England, young people can't leave education completely until they're 18.

I suspect even many of those in apprenticeships will find they have to do some maths related to their work.

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:46:27

Ah! I've just seen your next post. No need to explain.

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:45:52

minniemouse

It is basic Arithmetic that needs to be taught, nevermind Maths!
I was taught both in the 70's. Scottish 'O' Grades in both and I can honestly say that after 40 years working in finance, I used Arithmetic every day but cannot recall ever needing Algebra, Trigonometry, Binary etc etc.
Teach everyone basic Arithmetic and it will set them up for life ! Or Logarithms!

Logarithms? Why?

minniemouse Fri 06-Jan-23 15:45:32

I mean, never used Logarithms either

growstuff Fri 06-Jan-23 15:45:10

I'm stunned by the number of posters who say they hated maths at school and would have rebelled.

I hated English Literature, but just got on with it.

minniemouse Fri 06-Jan-23 15:44:34

It is basic Arithmetic that needs to be taught, nevermind Maths!
I was taught both in the 70's. Scottish 'O' Grades in both and I can honestly say that after 40 years working in finance, I used Arithmetic every day but cannot recall ever needing Algebra, Trigonometry, Binary etc etc.
Teach everyone basic Arithmetic and it will set them up for life ! Or Logarithms!

lovebeigecardigans1955 Fri 06-Jan-23 15:35:45

I would have hated it OP. Myself and three others somehow managed to persuade our fearsome headmistress to let us drop maths entirely as we were so bad at it and instead spend that time concentrating on the subjects where we had a cat in hells chance of doing better. We'd somehow fallen through the cracks when it came to our times tables and it was too late to make up for lost time.

We were trusted to spend the time in an empty classroom to do coursework for our CSEs instead. Obviously we chatted a bit as well but we were immensely grateful to have the maths worry taken away. I wouldn't have minded being in a remedial class for the dreaded sums without the stress of an exam but it wasn't available.

Speldnan Fri 06-Jan-23 15:31:50

Well I’m glad I won’t have to do it!