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Teachers' pay strike.

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Chocolatelovinggran Tue 17-Jan-23 13:51:53

I would suggest that the strikes are also about conditions and expectations. Recruitment of teachers is ( generally) fairly buoyant: after all, everyone knows how to teach, because they went to school, didn't they? And everyone knows about the long holidays, short days yada yada yada.
Unfortunately, the problem is retention- the percentage of teachers who leave ( forever) after a few years is worryingly high, and when asked their reasons for leaving , almost all speak of workload/ responsibility levels. Striking teachers might help to address this by opening discussions around this, helping our children and grandchildren to have consistency in their classrooms. I'm a retired teacher ; all of my children have said that it's the last career they would consider !

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:43:48

Re-reading that, I sounded as if I disagreed with you, NotSpaghetti but I'm not - I'm agreeing with you! 🙂

Callistemon21 Tue 17-Jan-23 10:34:47

Teachers aren't being greedy

That's what Joseanne said.
Some of the media infers that they are.

Unfortunately, when teachers are working during their annual leave, no one sees it!

They're not just on holiday for the whole time, there is still an enormous amount of preparation work to be done but, unfortunately, no-one sees that - until it is not done and a new term could start in chaos.

Oreo Tue 17-Jan-23 10:34:21

I think the unions pay a small proportion to workers as strike pay?
I don’t know if the teachers are justified or not really as I don’t yet know what they’re paid.I do feel sorry for parents tho as they scramble to arrange childcare or lose pay themselves.

NotSpaghetti Tue 17-Jan-23 10:29:28

volver, I think when you strike in the UK you simply don't get paid.

Does anyone know of anyone striking and still getting paid on the strike day?
I think lots of people think you get paid regardless.

Working to "rule" or to the "job" is different. In that situation of course you should be paid.

Regarding striking in the holidays.
WHY would anyone do that?
It would have zero obvious impact.
Unfortunately, when teachers are working during their annual leave, no one sees it!

Luckygirl3 Tue 17-Jan-23 09:44:31

It's not just pay - it is the long long working days, and the unpaid overtime that they all put in. It is the stress of having to number crunch and produce reams of data, when they just want to teach and teach well.

volver Tue 17-Jan-23 09:17:09

I don't really know where to start with this one...

Teachers aren't being greedy.

There's no point striking during the holidays when I presume they wouldn't be at work anyway.

I believe they give up their pay on days when they are striking.

Scottish teachers have been on strike before Christmas.

And the really contentious bit - I think the children will survive. Teachers went on strike when I was at school in the seventies. Properly on strike, for weeks on end. Yet here I am.

Calendargirl Tue 17-Jan-23 09:12:27

Surely if they struck when they were on holiday and the schools closed, no one would notice?

Joseanne Tue 17-Jan-23 08:59:05

They're definitely striking for better pay, but why can't the wording be that they are striking for a better education for our children? That is what is important, not the focus on teachers being greedy. I sympathise with them, but my next question is, why didn't they strike in the Christmas or February holidays when they were equally being paid? It could have avoided massive disruption to our children who have already suffered so much,?