Child arrangement court order

Namsnanny Mon 26-Aug-19 13:45:47 well said. The blinkered view of those with a bad relationship with their families has overtaken this thread. Those of us not involved in court procedures are ignored and our view is not even listened to.

I still think that a child who is not allowed to see loving GPs is being treated cruelly. The 'impact on the child' is imposed by the parent for their own reasons, the child has the 'rights' in law not the parents.

Lol

No I don't Razzmatazz and once again you have not said what part of my post was disgusting. Why are you talking about cancer for goodness sake? Your post is ridiculous.

It was at best a childish thing to say and extremely insulting. Ever heard someone say "well I hope you don't get cancer and have to decide if you want a mastectomy". No, because it's ridiculous, why would you ever put that thought or worry into another person's head. To say that to someone else is cruel. There is absolutely no logical cause to say that to someone who obviously cares greatly about children. You owe Notanan an apology.

Youre probably right twenty

A narc would probably prefer to just leave the threat hanging in the air...

... whilst telling parents that if it happens its their fault/punishment for going NC...

I think maybe it’s a case by case sort of thing.. Only a therapist could say for sure whether a GP is one, the AC is one, both, or neither.

You've obviously not been on gransnet very long then.

Hi Miss, it was figurative.. I’ve yet to actually see daggers come out of my monitor while on the Internet.

Ah, the cogs just turned..
So, grandparents who don't go to court could be because they're narcissists now?

People may disagree, I'm sure.
No need for daggers though; its just a discussion.

So, it seems to me, IMO, not accusing or pointing at anyone.... that perhaps maybe a narcissist wouldn’t go to court for access to GCs. Narcs cannot stand losing, and there is a very high likelihood of losing in court. Losing just send a narc off the deep end..

Dunno, I’m still thinking thru this.. so I hope nobody leaps out with the daggers.

That's OK MissAdventure you can join the lost cause club.

I can't see it either.
I guess I'm a lost cause too.

If you can't or wont support your claim that my post of 16.10 was disgusting, you shouldn't have said that it was Razzmatazz. To say "if you can't see it Smile you are a lost cause" is a cop out.

If you can't see it Smile you are a lost cause.

I don't have a predicament Razzamatazz, being estranged is no longer a predicament, it's something that has happened in my life but not something that controls it.

Don't know why you're disgusted; what part of my post to notanan did you find so distasteful?

Going to court to gain access to our GC was not something we wanted to do, but I wont judge others for feeling differently and acting differently.

An interesting post TwentyTwenty but as we haven't been discussing narcissists on this particular thread I fail to see its relevance unless of course you're trying to gas light me.

IMO, If you ‘grey rock’ a narcissist and tell them they are right and you’re wrong, they are more likely to leave you alone since they can’t get the narc-fuel that they crave.

Smile you just showed all your true colours. I am beginning to understand your predicament more.

How do I stop this nonsense appearing in my notifications? I'm tired of hearing from parents who think taking their own children to court is a better option than being a person that their children want and need in their lives and doing the work to fix it the right way. Honestly quite disgusted. Notanan I have no doubt you have your head screwed on straight and I am sorry to read such a disgusting comment aimed at you.

Well then notanan you must hope that when you are a GM that you are never cut out of your GC's lives, and wont ever have to consider whether or not you should go to court for access.

Parents dragged through court, food being taken from children's mouths and primary carers mental health being affected. No, I don't think any of those would be harmless but I do think it a sweeping and rather melodramatic statement.

I have no idea notanan but as the majority of GP's who do go to court for contact are denied, it's highly unlikely that other members of the extended family would be successful is it.

Having their parents dragged through court, even if access is denied, still takes food from thr childs mouth and affects their primary carers mental health.

You think that's harmless?

Non of my childrens gps are married (to each other). I would prob lose my job if I was taking time off for court times four!

Why would you force your children into not having a relationship because "for whatever reasons" you don't want one Hithere?

Yes I see the difference Summerlove I also see the difference in P's making a decision because it is what they want and not always because it would be in the best interests of their children. There in lies the problem, if P's deny their children their GP's regardless of the pre existing relationship they have with them, they are opening up the possibility of the GP's going to court.

I have no idea notanan but as the majority of GP's who do go to court for contact are denied, it's highly unlikely that other members of the extended family would be successful is it.

As you posted, "it is hard to have a discussion with posters who superimpose things not said to fit their own narrative".

As a parent, I decide to stop having a relationship with somebody - for whatever reasons

Why would I force my kid to do something I do not want to do myself?

Also awaiting an answer re what if all extended family members went to court. How many court orders do you think is okay to impose on a child?

That is why, unless exceptional circumstances (such as history if family fostering) court orders rightly tend to only be granted to immediate family.