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What else can I do for my daughter to want me in her life

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Violettham Fri 31-Jan-20 11:43:56

How I hate all these initials instead of plain English sometimes even explained, waste of space. OK before anyone starts I am stupid.

Starlady Fri 31-Jan-20 11:31:54

And I agree w/ Lesley about putting some items away before the GC come over. Perhaps DH would be ok w/ their visits if you agree to do that.

Starlady Fri 31-Jan-20 11:30:27

Oh, Panda, I am so sorry! My heart aches for you! It seems as if you are "getting it" from all sides - ODD (oldest dear daughter) and SIL won't let you in their home, DH (dear husband) won't allow the GC (grandchildren) in yours, but ODD wants you to see/expects you to watch the GC (and I'm sure you want to, as well). What a dilemma!

I'm not sure I have all this straight though. Let me see if I understand the following:

"She argued with her younger sister, but because I didn't pick a side we became a bit strained leading up to the wedding. After trying to reason with her as she and her husband to be banned my other daughter from the wedding, she then told me she wasn't bothered if I was even there or not."

Ouch! It seems as if you (wisely, IMO) refused to choose a side in her argument w/ her sister, your YDD (younger dear daughter). Apparently, ODD was a little bit miffed that you didn't pick a side/her side. Then you lost your resolve to stay out of the middle - and took YDD's side, which made ODD really angry. I totally get your defending YDD since they were trying to cut her out of the wedding. That is so sad, and would be hard, IMO, for any mum to just stand by and watch. But since ODD was already irritated that you didn't stand by her in this argument, it's not surprising that she got even more upset when you spoke up for YDD.

So sorry about this. And regardless, I think it was selfish of her to ask you to watch the GC while she and SIL were on their honeymoon and then cut you off for 3 years afterwards. Unless... was there some issue about anything that happened while you were watching the kids? Or did you have words when she and SIL came home? That might explain it, but it is still sad, IMO.

"Finally contact was made but even after still trying hard and still taking crap things have again become tense"

So glad contact was re-established! Perhaps you're trying too hard though? Also, do you feel comfortable telling us what the "crap" is that you've been "taking?" That might give us more insight into what's going on and what you might need to do.

I'm glad you're getting to see the kids often though I'm sorry SIL won't let you in their house. He is probably still angry about the past. Have you tried apologizing for getting in the middle? (I wouldn't apologize for defending YDD, just for "getting in the middle" of the drama.) Or if something else set him off, have you apologized for your part in that? And let him/them know it won't happen again? This may be all that's needed.

As for the cost of caring for them outside of their home. Have you tried asking ODD to help defray the costs? If not, do you think she would react well if you did?

How about if you set some boundaries on the amount of days and hours you can watch the kids? Does she need someone to watch them because of work? Would she get angry if you cut back? Cutting down on how often you take them might solve some of the problems, but I realize it could also lead to another CO (cut off) and you don't want that.

As for DH, I'm a little surprised that he won't let your GC in the house just b/c of a few broken things. Is he their bio GF? It's your home, too, so I think you should have some say, as well. Maybe you and he can compromise on how often they come over and what rooms they can play in? Can he suggest/help supervise some outings if he doesn't want them in the house?

Hope I'm not asking too many questions, just trying to get a clearer picture...

Lesley60 Fri 31-Jan-20 11:21:59

I know how it feels to be estranged from your daughter ( we are thankfully ok now) I used to secretly go and see the grandkids in the school playground with a pic in my pocket to prove who I was incase anyone thought I was a weirdo.
I’m amazed that your husband has stopped them coming to the house due to breaking things, are objects more important to him can’t you just put precious objects away before they visit.
I understand it’s expensive to take the grandkids out, but mine love playing board games especially with a big bucket of popcorn which is only £2 in asda, or walks in the country/ beach with an ice cream at the end, the most precious thing you can give them is your love, time and attention it’s making memories for them more so than things that would cost money.
I really hope your relationship with your daughter improves soon, I’m sure it will. ?

Panda220 Fri 31-Jan-20 10:53:08

I've always been there for my children, I put their needs first and I had a close relationship with my eldest daughter. Then she was getting married and it all fell apart. She argued with her younger sister, but because I didn't pick a side we became a bit strained leading up to the wedding. After trying to reason with her as she and her husband to be banned my other daughter from the wedding, she then told me she wasn't bothered if I was even there or not. I still went but it was the worst day. I looked after her two children for the duration of her honeymoon, then that's it. No contact for the next 3 years. I was heartbroken. Finally contact was made but even after still trying hard and still taking crap things have again become tense. I don't want to lose my grandchildren again but I feel I'm at the end of my tether and feel anxious all the time. She treats me like I just don't matter to her but expects me to see the kids often, although I am banned from her house by her husband, so I try and take them out but three children cost loads to keep occupied and fed. They have broken stuff at my home so my husband won't have them here anymore. How on earth does this get resolved? Advice would be very much appreciated