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Domestic Violence from kids to parents

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Lavazza1st Sun 11-Oct-20 15:55:35

I am copying and pasting a post I just found on our local Facebook page for police. This is what the man wrote:

"Why aren't we highlighting mother's of domestic abuse at the hands of their sons?.
These mothers of lads need support after failing to set boundaries early on got irretrievably out of hand as I imagine the mums end up victims of domestic abuse from little back chatting tyrants who hold the mum to ransom, so she gives in for an easy life, and he learns that being abusive gets him rewarded.
You should never reward bad behaviour.
It's like the kid that screams and screams til the parent gives in and gets them a packet of sweets.
I do believe we have parents who've given up after being ground down to nothing over time.
It's a thing that goes on under the radar."

I was really surprised this was written by a man and also really surprised that this is being openly discussed. I think it's a good thing to be open about it and remove the shame factor so people can get help. I hope it helps someone here , that's why I posted it.

Iam64 Thu 15-Oct-20 19:44:17

rosecarmel, who are you accusing of being Nazi's?

This thread was set up to discuss violence from children to parents. Yes, threads move around, different topics are introduced.

My impression is that some posters are attempting to exclude others.

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 19:46:21

No rosecarmel every thread on the estrangement forum ends up being about EAC, how awful their parents are/were and how awful EPs must be, because they've been estranged.#

Unlike you, I don't find either scenario amusing.

Callistemon Thu 15-Oct-20 19:48:56

My impression is that some posters are attempting to exclude others.

It could have developed into an interesting discussion, Iam64 but unfortunately has gone astray and posters have left, including the OP, perhaps they became bored.

Sparkling Thu 15-Oct-20 19:49:42

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Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 19:53:05

Thank you welbeck. It's very sad isn't it.

It's a shame isn't it Callistemon; boredom or frustration perhaps.

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 19:56:10

It does seem strange doesn't it Sparkling having estranged their abusive parents, got families of their own and made a good life for themselves.

Agedp1953 Thu 15-Oct-20 19:56:47

I agree sparkling Sparkling
Small = minded
Adult = childish
Thread = repetitive

Chewbacca Thu 15-Oct-20 19:59:50

Callistemon

^My impression is that some posters are attempting to exclude others.^

It could have developed into an interesting discussion, Iam64 but unfortunately has gone astray and posters have left, including the OP, perhaps they became bored.

Correct Callistemon, in fact as far back as 11th October @ 22.28, I tried, for the first time, to get the discussion back to what the OP wanted to talk about. Several others have tried many times since but have been dissuaded. As so often happens, it's become another exclusionary discussion between just a few, with nothing to do with the subject matter.

And yes, you're spot on Sparkling and Iam64.

rosecarmel Thu 15-Oct-20 20:00:57

Because they are/were awful, Smileless- I don't find that fact the least bit amusing- What amuses me is that they think they were/are not-

Amusement wasn't my initial reaction- My initial reaction, as others, was trauma, which the denier/s never takes seriously either-

So ..

Hill-o-Beans ..

Chewbacca Thu 15-Oct-20 20:02:40

Is it appropriate to post a photo of women doing the Nazi salute? Who or what is that aimed at rosecarmel?

rosecarmel Thu 15-Oct-20 20:04:19

The thread didn't get derailed- The subject matter had become too uncomfortable to discuss- It happens-

rosecarmel Thu 15-Oct-20 20:08:13

Chewbacca

Is it appropriate to post a photo of women doing the Nazi salute? Who or what is that aimed at rosecarmel?

Am I expected to answer?

Chewbacca Thu 15-Oct-20 20:10:55

Why not rosecarmel. You posted it for a reason I assume.

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 20:12:20

Well isn't it polite to answer a question when asked?

Which reminds me, are you going to answer Agedp's question Starblaze?

Chewbacca Thu 15-Oct-20 20:13:10

The subject matter had become too uncomfortable to discuss- It happens-

The initial posters didn't appear to find it ^to uncomfortable to discuss^; they just got chased away.

Starblaze Thu 15-Oct-20 20:18:36

Smileless I'm not sure there was any point in the question given the context previously mentioned and I can't see much point in answering because nothing I say is "good enough" anyway.

When I follow the discussion or try to keep it on track, I'm ignored and when I comment in general I must mean something awful because I'm an EAC.

So what's the point really

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 20:19:50

That's a good point Chewbacca. I think other posters, those who constantly go off topic are the ones finding it 'too uncomfortable to discuss'; I wonder why.

Smileless2012 Thu 15-Oct-20 20:21:37

The question I seem to remember was straight forward enough Starblaze. You were asked if that particular post was about a poster on this thread. Was it or not?

rosecarmel Thu 15-Oct-20 20:22:16

"Well isn't it polite to answer a question when asked?"

Is it impolite not to? ?

That's not the impression I got a couple/few pages back when someone refused to respond to a question but is now expecting their question answered -- funny that!

Agedp1953 Thu 15-Oct-20 20:23:45

I think it was a reasonable question Starblaze, as your post didn’t seem to bear any relation to the thread. So what’s the answer?

rosecarmel Thu 15-Oct-20 20:28:12

I posted an image of the elephant in the room- It was removed- So prattle on all you want about "who" is uncomfortable-

Chewbacca Thu 15-Oct-20 20:29:03

When I follow the discussion or try to keep it on track, I'm ignored

That's an interesting comment because I've just taken the time to read back over the whole of this thread and I can see that 7 requests have been made, by various posters, between 11th October and today, asking if the discussion could back on topic. And none of them were you Starblaze.

Callistemon Thu 15-Oct-20 20:29:43

Are you in that picture, then, rosecarmel?

I thought you'd be younger than that. confused

HolyHannah Thu 15-Oct-20 20:30:11

Smileless -- It usually happens when someone says something very unhealthy like calling an infant a "small object" and then insists that anyone who sees 'that' as an issue must be the one with the problem. I disagree.

That's where I see derailments occurring.

Starblaze Thu 15-Oct-20 20:31:17

Agedp the only person in my life I can be sure is a narcissist is the one who caused my narcissistic abuse related trauma.

If anyone else is worried that they could be a narcissist I would suggest they take a moment to think about themselves....

If they are still reading this comment then hopefully they are ok

Abuse victim humour.