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That Interview

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Smileless2012 Wed 10-Mar-21 10:35:34

Excellent post Nell and a good thread Sparklingsmile.

I posted last week else where on GN, how I was feeling about the approaching interview. I was stunned at how, even before it was aired, it was affecting me personally.

The pain, anger and overall trauma of an episode that began in our lives more than 8 years ago was re surfacing with such force that I was exhibiting the physical effects all over again. Being weepy, extremely tired, sad and at times feeling physically sick.

It has for me reinforced what has been, and is for any parent, a terrible truth; they just don't care.

I didn't watch it either and like you Sparkling am aware of the gruesome details none the less. Mr. S. watched it but not the entire thing. Interestingly he hadn't found M's slot as difficult as he thought he would, although he didn't believe her.

It was when H made an appearance. He managed about 10 minutes and couldn't stand anymore which I think is because although M reminded him of our ES's wife, H reminded him of our ES.

They have all but estranged H's family AmberSpyglass and have justified their behaviour, as many EAC do, with false and/or unsubstantiated allegations.

If M's tale of not being given the help she needed is true, then it's also true of her H isn't it. It wasn't just the RF and/or their aids who failed her; H failed her too and as her husband, his failure is far greater than anyone else's.

What I've gathered though, is H showed far more passion, anger and bitterness about his father withdrawing his financial support, failing to be there for him and not taking his calls.

It beggars belief that any man in his 30's would expect to be financially supported by his father, let alone one whose personal wealth is said to be in region of 40 million $.

What you say is significant regarding the number of people M's already estranged from is also significant in our own case
gandmajet. That said, even though you're aware that even those closest were dropped, you still never expect it to happen to you.

My heart goes out to H's family who will be heart broken and understandably so.

For many EP's and EGP's I wonder if they've done as a small favour. All too often we're labelled as abusive and told we must have done or said something, that AC don't estrange for no good reason.

This interview may make some think again before being so quick to judge.

Whether or not H & M have destroyed their relationship with H's family remains to be seen, but even if they are seen together, who knows how deep the river of pain, disappointment and anger that may well be flowing under the surface will be.

foxie48 Wed 10-Mar-21 10:16:16

Why would anyone choose to go out and broadcast grievances like this to the whole world? Harry will know that the palace would not embroil themselves in a tit for tat public disagreement and the damage it has done not only to him and Meghan but also to his family is incalculable. How on earth does anyone benefit from this apart from giving the media a further feeding frenzy? I honestly don't get it. Harsh words and accusations said in private are damaging enough but said like this, true or not, are totally destructive. This is very sad for everyone and fwiw I don't believe Archie was denied the title of Prince or security because of racism although I can believe some inept person mind have queried the colour of his skin, but that doesn't make the whole monarchy racist. I am not a royalist, the disgraceful behaviour of both Charles and Diana + Fergy and Andrew was enough to finish me off!

eazybee Wed 10-Mar-21 10:13:59

The marriage is poised to disintegrate; they have achieved their desires but are clearly not happy. Why?

People who claim to be happy, who have everything they could possibly need and most of what they profess to want, who are healthy and wealthy, with a thriving son and another child soon, count the world well lost for love. They do not broadcast spiteful, inaccurate interviews designed to estrange them from both their families and cause themconsiderable hurt.

mumofmadboys Wed 10-Mar-21 10:00:41

I agree with Shropshirelass they should never have done the interview. Things should have been resolved in private.Can you imagine if one of our kids did that to us ?

grandmajet Wed 10-Mar-21 09:24:02

It is significant that Meghan is estranged from so many who were previously important in her life; family, friends, professional acquaintances, all seem to be dropped when they have displeased her in some way.
I hope I am wrong, but I can’t see a happy long term future for Harry and his family.

Shropshirelass Wed 10-Mar-21 08:58:56

I don’t think they should have done the interview, you don’t air your dirty washing in public. There are ways of sorting things out privately and this is what should have been done. I thought Harry looked very uncomfortable, his body language was telling me he didn’t want to be there and Meghan spoke for him on occasion. It is done now and the whole world know what they have said, but, it is their view and events are not always seen the same by all parties. I do however wish that Harry had never met Meghan, I do think she pulls the strings. Very sad.

Pantglas2 Wed 10-Mar-21 08:57:09

Good post Nell.

AmberSpyglass Wed 10-Mar-21 08:52:38

But they didn’t estrange their family. They made a career and life choice and their family treated them appallingly because of it. I’m sorry it clearly touched a nerve, but everyone has a right to cut out or reduce contact with people based on their words or actions.

NellG Wed 10-Mar-21 08:51:16

Families function when there is open communication and when every member feels that they matter equally. Even royal families, though the fact that their ranks make them differ might make the job harder. Unfortunately in many families some of the members cant see past themselves and will take what is given, ask for more and complain when it doesn't suit. When challenged they will show their lack of care by walking away and then justifying their poor treatment by re writing everyone's narrative including their own. It's a brutal severing of attachments that is more painful than a death - I say that from direct personal and professional experience. They will rarely acknowledge anyone else's pain but their own and would die on the hill of being right rather than ever accept we are all different, we all make mistakes and we all matter.

Everyone thinks it will never happen to them, their family is solid, they make excuses for indifference, rudeness, greed etc and fill the gaps with more and more giving and compensating and attempts to understand saying- they're young, naive, it's shut their temperament, they're going through a tough time, perhaps they're depressed... and on and on trying to find a reason why this person/persons they love cannot 'see' them too. People give too much of themselves to a situation that can't be solved by just one side pulling the weight. The message being, it can happen to anyone in any family. You're right to be wary, or at least careful. Most people will tell you exactly who they are at some point or another - when what they do hits you in the gut, listen the first time. It won't change.

Sparkling Wed 10-Mar-21 07:48:12

To clarify, not bitterness by me but the responses from the media. People I have loved watching, saying how they feel the same. I will forever be wary now after a life time of seeing everyone for what they are, not gender or colour.

Sparkling Wed 10-Mar-21 07:43:14

I never watched it, but have seen so many clips on the news and such I might just have done so. My heart goes out to this couples families, Royal or not, how can they ever re unite after being so publicly trashed for over 2 hours. The dislike was palpable. It that how people that estrange really feel, loved ones disquarded. They are extremely wealthy and privileged, have each other and a lifestyle others can only dream of. The world as gone through unspeakable tradegy through this pandemic, so many deaths and sacrifes by people but only see their own truth! . I cannot for one minute understand so little compassion. It has been troubling me so much my own daughter not ringing to see if I was alive but if nothing else this interview clarified it somewhat, they see things from their own perspective that I don't warrant a thought, if you loved someone you just couldn't do it. I feel so upset by seeng and listening to what I have, it has unleached such bitterness.