Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

volver

OnwardandUpward

We can all get our feelings in a knot, and yet, how do we look away from fact? The fact is he has breached his family's Human Right to privacy by sharing the text, by sharing information about his brother's body.

By now the book is in charity shops and pirated too, so people could read it without paying full price.

I've commented on this before, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal for many people.

Anyone sharing or reading a pirated copy off WhatsApp is stealing and behaving dishonestly. 🤷🏼

I have said I am not going to read it even though it's cheap or free.

OnwardandUpward

We can all get our feelings in a knot, and yet, how do we look away from fact? The fact is he has breached his family's Human Right to privacy by sharing the text, by sharing information about his brother's body.

By now the book is in charity shops and pirated too, so people could read it without paying full price.

I've commented on this before, but it doesn't seem to be a big deal for many people.

Anyone sharing or reading a pirated copy off WhatsApp is stealing and behaving dishonestly. 🤷🏼

Learning to recognise triggers is a difficult skill

VioletSky

That's my point

When I realise something is triggering me, I know it's time to step back

His situation is not about you

That is true. Good point.

I think originally it was triggering me. Now I have explored that, it isn't. I feel sorry for Harry and the RF. It would have been a lot better to document actual facts and go to court, I feel.

None of this would have happened if the marriage to Diana had not taken place. She was used as a brood mare in the most selfish way imaginable.
Royalty for me finished after the Queen died.

I am able to separate it from my own situation, but because I have standards of what is and what isn't ok to share about others, I would not read the book out of principle.

I believe that some things should be confidential, no matter what.

AGAA4

I agree with not taking sides VS. I'm always wary when I hear one side of a story as I know there is another side that I may never hear about. I try to stay neutral and refuse to get involved in the complicated lives of some people.

Probably best really

We can all get our feelings in a knot, and yet, how do we look away from fact? The fact is he has breached his family's Human Right to privacy by sharing the text, by sharing information about his brother's body.

By now the book is in charity shops and pirated too, so people could read it without paying full price.

That's my point

When I realise something is triggering me, I know it's time to step back

His situation is not about you

I agree with not taking sides VS. I'm always wary when I hear one side of a story as I know there is another side that I may never hear about. I try to stay neutral and refuse to get involved in the complicated lives of some people.

All the comments about his mental health, all the insults, it's only harming yourselves...
On the contrary, * Violetsky*, I might have suffered exactly the same type of grief as Harry but find myself infinitely grateful that I don't have MH problems. No one is belittling his grief, it's how he uses it.

Some of the things said on these threads are pretty awful.

I'm finding it difficult to understand how , especially people who refuse to read or listen to his own words, are so determined to take sides.

This isn't anyone else's family situation and I think people are letting themselves be triggered by it.

That's quite dangerous by some of the heavily invested comments and possibly not good at all for people's mental health.

All the comments about his mental health, all the insults, it's only harming yourselves...

It is misdirected grief that hasn't been dealt with I think

volver

Joseanne

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Well it's made a difference to mine; note to self - avoid Gransnet for a wee while yet, the madness continues...
That's so funny volver because you told us recently you had learnt how to hide the threads, and yet you're back obviously reading them all!

You must have missed the bit where I said that hidden threads show up in the "Trending box"

I believe that's a bit later on in the stalkers' manual.

It's like watching a car crash...I can't look away... 🤣

Just because I have been chatting on here to lots of posters since coffee time about what they said recently, and then I make a comment to you around your post popping up doesn't make me a stalker!

I do think that sticking to prove-able facts would have helped H's cause. In hindsight, having the book triple checked for facts and making sure that it didn't breach anyone else's Human Rights would have been wise.

I don't think anyone has a problem with H sharing his own stories about his own body or love affairs, his kids or work he has done , things he has accomplished, his marriage and other facts about him-

The real problem is him leaking stories which were not his to tell, or betraying "what happens at the palace, stays at the palace" and talking about his kills, because of putting other people at risk.

He does seem to have a bit of a Messiah Complex. I feel sorry for him, but also for William, who cannot defend himself and also lost his Mum.

Joseanne

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Well it's made a difference to mine; note to self - avoid Gransnet for a wee while yet, the madness continues...
That's so funny volver because you told us recently you had learnt how to hide the threads, and yet you're back obviously reading them all!

You must have missed the bit where I said that hidden threads show up in the "Trending box"

I believe that's a bit later on in the stalkers' manual.

It's like watching a car crash...I can't look away... 🤣

I agree VS some of the things in H's book are pretty awful.

Some people just don't like to see someone seeking to trash and publicly humiliate their family volver.

Some of the things said are pretty awful

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Well it's made a difference to mine; note to self - avoid Gransnet for a wee while yet, the madness continues...
That's so funny volver because you told us recently you had learnt how to hide the threads, and yet you're back obviously reading them all!

M0nica

Have you noticed that since the book was published the media have completely lost interest in H&M. Absolutely zilch, or very nearly zilch anywhere.

The reporters and photographers went out to picture the queues waitig to buy the book and ended up with a story about the lack of queues. Book displays in bookshops are full and many are already selling it for half price.

H&M are true B list celebrities who have now had their 15 minutes of fame, bye-bye.

In case you can't see the attachment, it says "Have you noticed that Harry's book is now out of the news now people have actually read it" ... to which I add "and can see that so much of the press coverage was untrue"?

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I'm still rather flummoxed by the never-ending tirade of criticism and malice directed at this book and at its author. What difference will it make to your lives? It's entirely disproportionate.

Well it's made a difference to mine; note to self - avoid Gransnet for a wee while yet, the madness continues...

Well Harry has breached the Human Rights Act, section 8 in revealing texts and private information about his family.

He has been ill advised and now seems to have some sort of Messiah complex , which can be brought on by drug taking and mental illness or a personality disorder, whereby he thinks he is actually doing his family a favor. I feel he is deluded and cannot see how they can ever talk to him seeing as he has already breached the Human Rights Act and therefore cannot be trusted

Sticking to the facts, there is a framework for how we deal with the information of others and that is specifically the Human Right's Act 1998, article 8 which states "
The Human Rights Act Article 8: Respect for your private and family life Article 8 protects your right to respect for your private and family life Article 8 protects your right to respect for your private life, your family life, your home and your correspondence (letters, telephone calls and emails, for example)."

I am sorry for how Harry has been treated, but he really should be suing the media if he has the proof, or dealing with his family in private through mediation. I fear it is now too late because any trust will have been killed with these highly personal revelations.

I do also wonder whether he thought in ignorance that everyone would think his book was as amazing as he thought it was and that his announcement that he was "only trying to help his family" has come as "justification" for his mistakes. It doesn't justify what has been a human rights breach and a traitorous act.

I feel sorry for Harry, but feel he has listened to the wrong people and made some very foolish moves regarding this book.

Have you noticed that since the book was published the media have completely lost interest in H&M. Absolutely zilch, or very nearly zilch anywhere.

The reporters and photographers went out to picture the queues waitig to buy the book and ended up with a story about the lack of queues. Book displays in bookshops are full and many are already selling it for half price.

H&M are true B list celebrities who have now had their 15 minutes of fame, bye-bye.

Sparklefizz

Gosh. William looks so much like Diana's brother in that photo of when he was younger. Both very good looking.

Absolutely ludicrous that Harry is even jealous of William resembling Diana. He really is a bitter spiteful mixed-up man.

The younger photo is of Johnnie Spencer, Diana's father, William's and Harry's grandfather.

Harry's hair is very like Charles Spencer's, which was red.

Gosh. William looks so much like Diana's brother in that photo of when he was younger. Both very good looking.

Absolutely ludicrous that Harry is even jealous of William resembling Diana. He really is a bitter spiteful mixed-up man.

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The Other Charles's hair has gone white now. I was surprised to see that.
William is like his maternal grandfather, a handsome chap in his youth.

Can't believe someone said "Windsor Jowls", has W not had a bad enough week?

I for one am not going to start on William. H has made himself fair game by making the comparison and insulting W, but W has not engaged in this superficial and sad saga,