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Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

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OnwardandUpward Tue 03-Jan-23 13:34:07

Ah diddums are the consequences of your actions catching up with you?

A change of heart is needed! You need to face up to your own actions and stop acting as the only victim.

Norah Thu 05-Jan-23 17:58:58

Casdon

Norah

Smileless2012

So I wonder why Harry is doing to his and his brothers children, what their parents did to them?

What is Harry doing to his or his brothers children?

I miss so much only reading this silly drama on GN.

Get yourself straight over to the Daily Mail to catch up Norah. The top nine leaders stories are about Harry’s book. Nothing else of any importance is happening in the world today.

Thanks, Casdon. I need to walk dogs, again.

Nine, really? Slow news day in the world. grin

Norah Thu 05-Jan-23 17:53:56

Smileless2012

Giving interviews and writing a book about how horrible his niece and nephews father is Norah.

Charles also has William and Catherine by his side Onward and their support and discretion must be invaluable.

Do you really think William will purchase this book for nanny to read to his children? One little child who boasts that he'll be King one day and his mates should watch out? (according to GN posts)

Appears quite enough, without dragging children into the mix. If estranged, in different countries - likely they'll never have to meet.

volver Thu 05-Jan-23 17:40:03

Does anybody listen to Breaking the News on Radio Scotland?

Last Friday they were talking about Charles. How he'd had an apprenticeship of 70-odd years to learn to wave and sign his name.

Day 3 of the new job - and he couldn't sign his name. 🤣

Casdon Thu 05-Jan-23 17:31:40

Norah

Smileless2012

So I wonder why Harry is doing to his and his brothers children, what their parents did to them?

What is Harry doing to his or his brothers children?

I miss so much only reading this silly drama on GN.

Get yourself straight over to the Daily Mail to catch up Norah. The top nine leaders stories are about Harry’s book. Nothing else of any importance is happening in the world today.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Jan-23 17:18:03

Giving interviews and writing a book about how horrible his niece and nephews father is Norah.

Charles also has William and Catherine by his side Onward and their support and discretion must be invaluable.

OnwardandUpward Thu 05-Jan-23 17:13:44

True, I forgot about Charles having a wobble over his pen! When I think of Charles, the word Querulous is how I would describe him. It's going to be a difficult reign for him because he doesn't have the fortitude of his Mother .

He may or may not have ripped a sink off the wall. Who can say? I'm sure William must have his own struggles, but as their heir he has probably has no one he could really trust who would really understand apart from his brother. Except, now he doesn't even have a brother for support, thanks to Harry. Whatever Charles goes through, he has Anne and Edward behind him- and that's valuable for him.

Norah Thu 05-Jan-23 14:43:33

Smileless2012

So I wonder why Harry is doing to his and his brothers children, what their parents did to them?

What is Harry doing to his or his brothers children?

I miss so much only reading this silly drama on GN.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Jan-23 14:36:20

So I wonder why Harry is doing to his and his brothers children, what their parents did to them?

Norah Thu 05-Jan-23 14:23:04

There is always gossip about the RF. Generally they seem to bring it on themselves. How is this any different?

Charles sons would have had a particularly hard time, I'd think, growing up with parents who told the world of their affairs. Apart from a school day where your friends were talking about your dad and feminine products.

Charles had a wobbly over a pen, at his signing. confused

These are not rational people.

Bags of cash, alleged pedophile, Sarah's toes, a GP who may have been having affairs with 'shop girls', Margaret who couldn't just marry as she wished, the whole abdication/Nazi couple disaster, William and Rose - long list - how is it one person/action is forgivable and another not?

Mollygo Thu 05-Jan-23 13:25:15

Ever heard of make up? Yes it can be used to produce swelling, bruising, burn effects as well as cove them up.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Jan-23 13:13:07

Oh is that what I wear when I'm going out Glorianny?Foundation, eye liner, mascara, blusher and lipstick if so then yes, I have heard of makeup.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 12:18:40

Smileless2012

Yes he does need help Callistemon. On one of his 6 face book pages there are photographs of him with a black eye and bruises to his face and one hand. #williambully.

It's claimed these were taken when the couple arrived in Marrakesh in 2019. However, a You Tube video taken at the time shows no bruising whatsoever.

There's a recent You Tube video of H leaving Montecito wearing the same suit as the photographs. There are also photographs of the same injuries and a bite mark.

How can these injuries have been inflicted by his brother when this video and photographs were taken more than 3 years after the alleged fight with his brother?

Yet again, it appears that H's allegations are being disproved by photographic and video evidence.

Ever heard of make up? In 2019 H was a working royal. Wouldn't do for one of them to appear with bruises would it??
He plays polo, it's a notoriously high risk sport.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Jan-23 11:51:54

Yes he does need help Callistemon. On one of his 6 face book pages there are photographs of him with a black eye and bruises to his face and one hand. #williambully.

It's claimed these were taken when the couple arrived in Marrakesh in 2019. However, a You Tube video taken at the time shows no bruising whatsoever.

There's a recent You Tube video of H leaving Montecito wearing the same suit as the photographs. There are also photographs of the same injuries and a bite mark.

How can these injuries have been inflicted by his brother when this video and photographs were taken more than 3 years after the alleged fight with his brother?

Yet again, it appears that H's allegations are being disproved by photographic and video evidence.

Glorianny Thu 05-Jan-23 10:58:50

Lovetopaint037

Callistemon21

Poor man, he does need help.

I agree. The more he says the more this is evident.

Is this Charles we are talking about?
The man who was bullied by his father, married for convenience, used a young girl to procreate, chucked her for an adulterous relationship, , married his mistress, took money for honours and threw a wobbly when a pen didn't work.
I agree he does need help.

Lovetopaint037 Thu 05-Jan-23 10:44:27

Callistemon21

Poor man, he does need help.

I agree. The more he says the more this is evident.

DiamondLily Thu 05-Jan-23 09:33:48

maddyone

Well I don’t think it was okay at all DiamondLily and I said as much on the thread specifically about that a little while ago. Im not sure many people thought it was okay though, especially the ‘honour’ later bestowed. However I think the ‘honour’ system is out of date and out of place in a modern democracy.

Yrs, I meant that up ir "palace obedient" media made very little of it.

If it had have been Harry found out to have done this, weeks of right wing press vitriol would have been unleashed.

Double standards with editors and owners too worried about knighthoods to report impartially. 🙄

And, yes, I agree about the honours system. It's totally discredited anyway.

volver Thu 05-Jan-23 09:20:34

Now look what's happened. I'm having to quote Fox News. 🤣

I just think that people are making a … mountain out of a mole hill, and they’re wanting to persecute Meghan and Harry for no reason, honestly," she added.

www.foxnews.com/entertainment/nelson-mandelas-granddaughter-defends-prince-harry-meghan-markle-legends-quotes-new-docuseries

volver Thu 05-Jan-23 08:02:22

Chestnut

volver

Chestnut

Well here is the latest headline, presumably leaked by Mandela's granddaughter. Quote:
Nelson Mandela’s granddaughter accuses Harry and Meghan of ‘stealing’ the anti-apartheid icon's words in Netflix show 'to make millions' – and says she doesn't believe the Sussexes 'ever properly met' him.

Also said by Ms Mandela:

I admire Harry for having the confidence to break away from an institution as iconic as the Royal Family. Grandad rebelled against an arranged marriage to find his own path in life.

I know the Nelson Mandela Foundation has supported the initiative.

I hope anybody making any documentary about a historic person realises that they are not allowed to quote them, because that (apparently) would be "stealing their words".

Read the article. You are quoting out of context.
Ndileka warned: 'Harry needs to be authentic and stick to his own story, what relevance does grandad's life have with his?
'I don't believe he nor Meghan have ever properly met granddad, maybe when Harry was young at Buckingham Palace, but they are using his quotations in the documentary to draw in people and make millions without the Mandela family benefiting'.

I read the article.

The documentary quotes lots of deceased people they never met.

The documentary is not about Harry, it's about leadership. So the quote about Mandela having nothing to do with Harry's is fatuous. So what if they never met him? I don't expect they met RBG either, but she's in the documentary.

Sparklefizz Thu 05-Jan-23 06:48:23

Dickie Arbiter was a press spokesman for the Queen from 1988 until 2000; in the 1996 Birthday Honours, he was appointed Lieutenant of the Royal Victorian Order.

M0nica Thu 05-Jan-23 06:35:24

Dickie Arbiter is a longstanding and frequently quoted Royal watcher. His name is always popping up in relation to the RF - and I avoid reading most of the tosh in the papers about this really rather boring couple of nonentities, but I have seen his name constantly in relation to Rf for years.

Ailidh Thu 05-Jan-23 06:10:36

Callistemon21

Dickie
Dickie Who?

Never having heard of Dickie Arbiter, I'd thought it was a reference to Lord Mountbatten.....

maddyone Thu 05-Jan-23 05:59:31

Joseanne

I think if I were currently in sunny New Zealand maddyone I wouldn't be going anywhere near M & H's Netflix series. Back here on cold wintery evenings it passed the time though!!

Yes I guess it does Joseanne but after a long day of childcare in the sunshine, which is thoroughly enjoyed, relaxing with a film before bed is just the ticket. We will be so sad to leave them, but they’re probably coming to visit us next year.

maddyone Thu 05-Jan-23 05:53:24

imaround

I Meghan was shown to be innocent, that would change the narrative in the press about her wouldn't it? hmm

I don’t know imaround but I suspect that all the things that she has said and done, and that the world has seen and heard straight from her own mouth via interviews etc that it may be difficult to change her image whatever the press did or didn’t do.

maddyone Thu 05-Jan-23 05:50:05

Well I don’t think it was okay at all DiamondLily and I said as much on the thread specifically about that a little while ago. Im not sure many people thought it was okay though, especially the ‘honour’ later bestowed. However I think the ‘honour’ system is out of date and out of place in a modern democracy.

DiamondLily Thu 05-Jan-23 04:36:28

Glorianny

Lathyrus

The magazine you quoted is a sort of American “Hello”. 🙄

Yes I saw the links.

In my first post on this subject I sad it was impossible to identify the extent Archewell donations because they are made in conjunction with other charities. So “together with X charity Archewell has donated one million…….”

I’m sure they have ensured that everything is done legally.

If not transparently.

Maybe you could take a trip to California Lathyrus visit the offices of the Attorney General and uncover a complete scam, write about it, make your fortune. Your own Archewellgate! grin

What could be more transparent than having your accounts open to public scrutiny? But who knows maybe they are getting cash in plastic bags-like father like son????

Quite. The only one known to have quietly received large amounts of cash, stuffed in carrier bags, from a dubious source, apparantly for charity, is our new King....🙄

One of the donors received an honour.

But, that was apparently ok.

metro.co.uk/2022/06/29/prince-charles-accepting-bags-of-cash-for-his-charities-wont-happen-again-16914966/

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