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OnwardandUpward Tue 03-Jan-23 13:34:07

Ah diddums are the consequences of your actions catching up with you?

A change of heart is needed! You need to face up to your own actions and stop acting as the only victim.

imaround Wed 04-Jan-23 18:55:54

The $50,000 is just what they raised in the first year. Do you think a brand new charity would start with millions? hmm

No one knows, and won't until the 2021 IRS forms are released, what percentage of the charity income is.

Some.of their charity work is to use thier image to help other charities raise money. So those amounts would be reported on that charities IRS filings.

This is all 100% normal in the US and all done according to law.

Normandygirl Wed 04-Jan-23 18:48:43

Glorianny
I'm confused, how could Archewell claim all these "donations" to charities when they only raised $50,000, of which they are only required to donate 5% which is $2,500?

OnwardandUpward Wed 04-Jan-23 18:37:51

Unfortunately it's big business. I'm not sure it's better, unless it's a CIC (Community Interest Company)

I had a friend who set up a local UK charity. I say had because her idea was to recruit loads of volunteers to do the day to day work, while she drew a big salary. She was marketing this thing as a charity and constantly asking local people to donate, plus claiming grants from local authority. I fell foul of her when I did some one off work for her website (expecting to be recompensed) and found that the only salary she was interested in was her own. You don't expect that of a friend, except I realised she wasn't one. I also had a look at the figures online and found that her salary was the biggest expenditure, never mind the people they were supposed to be helping.

imaround Wed 04-Jan-23 18:29:12

Wow, they way I have seen people talk regarding the differences in the way charities are run in the UK vs the US (and how much better the UK runs charities) I am surprised to see CEOs in the UK have such large salaries.

OnwardandUpward Wed 04-Jan-23 18:23:19

I don't know how these things work in America.

Many charities take large salaries for the SEO, such as these en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CEO_compensation_among_charities_in_the_United_Kingdom

imaround Wed 04-Jan-23 18:18:55

VioletSky

Is Americasplaining the new mansplaining?

As an American, it is frustrating to watch.

Mollygo Wed 04-Jan-23 18:18:53

volver

Is it just me or is there an echo in here?

Well if you persist in saying the same things, it does appear as an echo VD.

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 18:18:05

volver

Link doesn't work for me Glorianny

Try this volver- AG's website. oag.ca.gov/charities Scroll to registration on right side and click. Put Archewell on form under name. Hope that helps

imaround Wed 04-Jan-23 18:17:44

Sorry, typo. Colorado not California. They never registered in Colorado.

imaround Wed 04-Jan-23 18:16:46

Lathyrus

If you can link to any factual information on sums donated to Archewell and sums donated by Archewell, I’d be very interested.

The IRS requires filings, no matter what state. However, it could be up to 2 years before those filings are made public. In their first year, they did not make enough to trigger a full report.

The second year, 2021 has been filed, but it could take up to a year (or more while the IRS fully hires and trains the new agents) before those reports are made public.

Despite being registered in Delaware, the State of California will require filings and reports on their charity work. On anyone doing business sor charity at that level in the state, not just them.

They were never registered in California and if you found that in an online search, it is the perfect example of how the public reads something and then present it as fact without it ever being true.

This is how the media manipulates the public.

tickingbird Wed 04-Jan-23 17:59:21

Of course everything you find on Google is 100% on the money 💰 or not as it happens.

I don’t set great store over everything that’s ferreted out on Google.

OnwardandUpward Wed 04-Jan-23 17:56:26

This. (If they have any sense, that is)

Everything anyone in the public eye says to the press has been curated and tailored to present the best view possible of themselves and their actions.or the view they want. It will hide anything they do not want to be known. This applies to anyone in the public eye, without exception.

Also, business is business and there's no business like charity. Sadly many charities are this way.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 17:52:17

Link doesn't work for me Glorianny

VioletSky Wed 04-Jan-23 17:52:04

Is Americasplaining the new mansplaining?

Glorianny Wed 04-Jan-23 17:49:09

Lathyrus here's a link to the Archewell registration with the Attorney General in California rct.doj.ca.gov/Verification/Web/Details.aspx?result=f574ad6c-7597-4e43-a21f-83c75ffda102
What do you know I've saved you a trip. Took me minutes to find. Maybe because I wasn't looking in Colorado

NotSpaghetti Wed 04-Jan-23 17:47:05

welbeck

no class system/pedestal in America ? really ?
how come there are such phrases as,
white trailer trash etc.
and people boast of their income, that they live in an affluent area, and there are strong residents' groups to keep out the wrong sort of people.
most countries have their own class system.

I was just about to say this welbeck

I see it in America imaround though it isn't called "class" it is still there in different forms.

Wherever there are people I expect it exists!

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 17:46:19

And there it is😬

VioletSky Wed 04-Jan-23 17:43:13

Weird

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 17:40:01

Is it just me or is there an echo in here?

Mollygo Wed 04-Jan-23 17:39:05

But those in the know through their superior googling skills, are about to reveal their knowledge of the actual amounts from the charity that have been donated.
It will be good to know, since the UK press aren’t doing such a good job.

volver Wed 04-Jan-23 17:33:39

TBF Lathyrus isn't saying that money from the Archewell charity hasn't been donated or even suggesting that H & M are syphoning off finds for themselves

Yes she is. I quote from Lathyrus's post:

The Legislative Assembly found that millions of dollars were fraudulently taken from charities registered in Colorado each year and that fraudulent activity was widespread throughout those charities registered in Colorado.

People can draw their own conclusions as to why Archewell chose to register in this State.

For anybody that missed it, they are not registered in Colorado.

Mollygo Wed 04-Jan-23 17:33:05

TBF Lathyrus isn't saying that money from the Archewell charity hasn't been donated or even suggesting that H & M are syphoning off finds for themselves. She's saying shes unable to find any figures that show the actual amounts from the charity that have been donated.
But those in the know through their superior googling skills, are about to reveal their knowledge of the actual amounts from the charity that have been donated.
It will be good to know, since the UK press aren’t doing such a good job.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 17:33:00

“What is more transparent than having your accounts open to public scrutiny”

Absolutely.

But in American, the accounts do not have to be open to public scrutiny if less than £50,000 dollars is raised in a year.

Which is why, perhaps Archewell reported raising under that sum in its submission and so did not have to make its accounts public.

Smileless2012 Wed 04-Jan-23 17:25:44

Do you really think that the Oprah interview, Netflix series and H's book when it comes out is them giving them the best possible view of themselves M0nica? Good grief, I don't think it's possible that they could have done a worse job.

TBF Lathyrus isn't saying that money from the Archewell charity hasn't been donated or even suggesting that H & M are syphoning off finds for themselves. She's saying shes unable to find any figures that show the actual amounts from the charity that have been donated.

I agree Lathyrus this being the case, there is indeed a lack of transparency.

Lathyrus Wed 04-Jan-23 17:24:49

Exactly. We don’t know much about them.

In spite of trying to find out.

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