Harry: "I want my Father back. I want my brother back"

VioletSky

Projection

This thread doesn't belong on this forum

Where does it belong iyo?

Are Gransnetters not allowed to Express an opinion?

Projection. We do see that in posts yes, but I suppose everyone reacts to circumstances, the news, other people, uniquely based on their own life experiences.

To add to my M&H Bingo card; "venom", "bile" and "vitriol".

TerriBull

VioletSky

Diana would have loved Harry speaking out lol

I doubt whether she would if it meant one brother publicly putting out private conversations with his brother into the public domain to skew his own grievances. I think she would have been heartbroken to witness their fraternal bond being broken. .

I'm sure she would, Terribull.
She loved both her sons.

VioletSky

Diana would have loved Harry speaking out lol

She probably would have, but it would have made her really sad to see her boys not getting along, that's the bit I meant.

There'd be just as much criticism if that were the case Annie.

Feeling unable to trust them will be a huge stumbling block Barmeyoldbat.

It must be very difficult to say nothing, but I think that not dignifying their venom with a response is the best approach.

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Glorianny

If with all their wealth, influence and power the King and his eldest son could not accommodate the wishes of one man, his wife and family, could not carry on negotiating with them whilst still protecting and sheltering them, but chose instead to strip them of protection and leave them dependant on the kindness of strangers they can't really expect loyalty can they? It's a two-way thing.

It is a two way thing and you are very biased. Not a fan of the RF but I would give them the benefit of the doubt for the sake of fairness.

Any loyalty stopped with With that awful interview, how can anyone in the family trust them again

VioletSky

The interesting thing about these threads is there seem to be those attaching Harry and Meghan and those defending

Not much attacking Charles or William

It says a lot I think

That’s the whole point of “never complain, never explain”. Once a tit for tat squabble is made public, embellished by the media, it will spiral out of control.

No one is attacking Charles or William, they haven’t done anything. Meanwhile two Narcissists are selling their version of family secrets to the highest bidders, where their victims can’t answer back. It’s extreme bullying. I believe H is giving a talk today on poverty it’s ridiculously embarrassing, so tacky.

Thanks for quoting I'd not seen that reply

Agree with it

If with all their wealth, influence and power the King and his eldest son could not accommodate the wishes of one man, his wife and family, could not carry on negotiating with them whilst still protecting and sheltering them, but chose instead to strip them of protection and leave them dependant on the kindness of strangers they can't really expect loyalty can they? It's a two-way thing.

imaround

VioletSky

What a strange thought

Royalty means you don't get "real problems"

Just suck it up and behave the way the public expects I suppose

I am seeing it everywhere.

They are rich and spoiled, so they do not "deserve" to have mental health or family problems.

Everyone seems to forget that even King Charles puts his pants on one leg at a time.

But, of course, my viewpoint stems from being an American where there is no class system. No pedestal.

I also agree that those who are estranged and those who estranged have a totally different viewpoint on the topic.

Why do Americans keep insisting that there is no class system. If my son, with far more qualifications, rocked up in the USA, would he be given multimillion pound contracts from various American companies?

VioletSky

If I had been trashed all over the press, in often racially loaded ways and my own father and brother stood back and said nothing...

I'd be wanting my father and brother back too, in the roles they should have inhabited from the beginning.

This is what happens when you have a an image motivated family invested in rug sweeping and you try to tell the truth because your childhood and your own family have harmed you.

Only in this case, it has played out in the public eye and quite a lot of the public are just as invested in the image of the royal family as the royal family themselves..

And my first comment was this

The press spoke

Charles and Williams inactions spoke louder than words

A family who will let the press and public bully you and only seek to preserve their own image is worthless

The Royal Family are a family. What we see is the family
'business'.
When someone leaves a family business because they are
disgruntled they can be vindictive but Harry is taking this
to another level. I wonder what he sees at the end of the road.

VioletSky

Diana would have loved Harry speaking out lol

I doubt whether she would if it meant one brother publicly putting out private conversations with his brother into the public domain to skew his own grievances. I think she would have been heartbroken to witness their fraternal bond being broken. .

tickingbird

^No posing for the press^

Really??? Pictures of Archie naked in the bath? Lillibet in close up sat on the grass?

All well and good until you realise that no pics of the children UNLESS they get paid!!!

William and Kate’s children are on Christmas cards etc. They aren’t being sold to the highest bidder.

Those are all old pictures tickingbird do you have any idea what those children look like now?
Is it OK then to expose your children to the media providing you don't get paid? Perhaps Harry having spent his childhood being constantly on display wants something else for his children, rather than having them in the public eye all the time.

Am sure if William gives an Oprah interview, signs up a deal for millions to an American tv company, writes a book about his blood family there will be much said.

VioletSky

The interesting thing about these threads is there seem to be those attaching Harry and Meghan and those defending

Not much attacking Charles or William

It says a lot I think

Perhaps because they haven't said anything?
Could that be the case?

Least said, soonest mended.

A source informs me that oh, mustn't say 😲

Attacking not attaching lol

The interesting thing about these threads is there seem to be those attaching Harry and Meghan and those defending

Not much attacking Charles or William

It says a lot I think

No posing for the press

Really??? Pictures of Archie naked in the bath? Lillibet in close up sat on the grass?

All well and good until you realise that no pics of the children UNLESS they get paid!!!

William and Kate’s children are on Christmas cards etc. They aren’t being sold to the highest bidder.

He's no longer part of the institution and if he wants them to be a family, he's got a very strange way of going about it.

Mollygo

VioletSky

Diana would have loved Harry speaking out lol

And you know this how? With or without a lol.

Perhaps she told her?

We don't know who, on here, are (were) besties with any members of the Royal Family.

VioletSky

Diana would have loved Harry speaking out lol

And you know this how? With or without a lol.