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Estranged daughter and my will

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southwestgran Wed 13-Mar-24 14:05:40

My elder daughter hasn’t spoken or contacted for four years despite me sending birthday cards and saying our door is always open. She is married but has no children. I’m close to my younger daughter who is going through a rough time with a divorce and two teenage grandchildren. I’ve always said I would treat my children the same no matter what they did but I’m now wondering if I should alter my will in favour of my daughter and grandchildren. Elder daughter has in-laws with property so they’ll benefit at some point.

VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 16:21:14

Namsnanny

I sometimes wonder if EAC project their personal situation onto any anonymous EP they can find.
Just because it's easier and they can't off load their feelings on the actual perpetrator.
The same could be the other way around of course.

The difference imho between the two groups, especially here, is the EP are looking for support from people on the same situation.

Whereas the EAC seem to be looking to argue with educate EAP's

It's a real shame you think that, it will colour your perception of any estranged child unfairly

VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 16:20:02

Bridie22

Could it be VS that you don't accept other posters Honest comments?

Which ones?

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 16:15:32

Could it be VS that you don't accept other posters Honest comments?

Namsnanny Sat 23-Mar-24 16:12:25

I sometimes wonder if EAC project their personal situation onto any anonymous EP they can find.
Just because it's easier and they can't off load their feelings on the actual perpetrator.
The same could be the other way around of course.

The difference imho between the two groups, especially here, is the EP are looking for support from people on the same situation.

Whereas the EAC seem to be looking to argue with educate EAP's

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 16:12:14

So what you are saying User 138562, is I should just go away or put up with it, so is it she who shouts the loudest stays?

Smileless2012 Sat 23-Mar-24 16:10:34

I hope they do reinstate your comments Bridie. Telling EP's who post here they are petty, questioning whether or not they love their EAC and suggesting the worse motivations for the decisions they've taken is goading and likely to cause distress.

I'm sorry User that you can see from the way your mother has behaved that she doesn't love you but our ES if he were honest could never make that claim. We always have and always will love him.

VS is responded too based on what she posts. I wouldn't dream of telling her or any other EAC how they should react to being left or not being left an inheritance, or how they should feel about receiving a letter from their EP when they die or what they should do with it.

We all post based on our own experiences and situations. The EAC who do post here are not berated for the decisions they have taken, and that should be extended to EP's.

Someone posting from their own perspective is no excuse for deliberately seeking to antagonise those whose perspective and experience is different.

VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 16:09:59

What is goading about saying that leaving a last letter to an estranged child isn't necessarily the right thing to do for you or them?

You all know I think this, I have always thought this, if you address a comment to me I am going to reply honestly?

If you don't want my honest thoughts, just don't talk to me and I will discuss with others instead?

I truly don't understand why this is necessary

DiamondLily Sat 23-Mar-24 16:04:53

Bridie22

User138562, I agree this estrangement thread is at times heated, however 1 poster should not have the right to indiscriminately distress others with goading remarks, we should have the right to reply accordingly. VS for some reason seems to be immune from consequences.

Well, whatever, if your comments didn’t breach GN rules, your comments should be reinstated.

I’m sure they will make the right decision. 🙂🙂

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 16:00:34

User138562, I agree this estrangement thread is at times heated, however 1 poster should not have the right to indiscriminately distress others with goading remarks, we should have the right to reply accordingly. VS for some reason seems to be immune from consequences.

VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 15:54:42

Yes, I know what the conversation is about, I've been part of this discussion over the course of several days Diamondlily

User138562 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:52:14

Bridie22

Doesn't make it untrue either!User 138562

I agree that it doesn't.

Actions are really what shows whether there is unconditional love or not. I can see through actions she doesn't love me and a letter after she dies would only reinforce my beliefs even further.

I also think VioletSky gets a lot of unfair personally attacking responses. This is a emotionally charged topic and it stands to reason that her responses would reflect her perspective. Disagreement on a topic about unhealthy parent child relationships should be expected in this context. If you're so offended by her then stop responding. Otherwise you're just as responsible for your own hurt feelings.

There are communities that don't allow the estranged child (and the opposite) to participate but this is one of the only ones with both groups that I have seen.

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:49:50

I have requested that Gransnet reinstate my comments, I should be allowed right of reply to any goading, which is exactly what VS practises on the estrangement threads, at times deliberately setting out to cause distress to estranged parents.

DiamondLily Sat 23-Mar-24 15:43:19

Iam64

Wasn’t me GSM though I fear my response might be next.

Nor me. I never have the energy to report posts. 🙂

DiamondLily Sat 23-Mar-24 15:42:18

VioletSky

As I said, I am engaging in the discussion the same as anyone else, trying to support others to either have healthy relationships or move on in a healthy way... On a forum that supported me in the same way

People don't always agree with me and that is always ok, people don't always agree in ways that are very personal and actually unfair/untrue but I won't retaliate

With respect, VS, if you’re not estranged from your kids, which I’m assuming you’re not, this conversation is more about older people who are estranged from their kids/stepkids. And what they doing with their Wills. Not really something you’re having to deal with.

They are the only ones who are walking the walk.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 23-Mar-24 15:38:56

I wouldn’t think for one moment it was you, Iam.

DiamondLily Sat 23-Mar-24 15:38:16

Smileless2012

Exactly Granniesunite. EP's/EGP's who send letters, cards and gifts are accused of stalking but I guess it's OK to 'stalk' from the grave by leaving an inheritance.

We considered leaving a gift to our GC and decided on the memory box. We don't know if leaving them money would impact negatively on their relationship with their parents.

I wouldn't want to be left something by someone I'd estranged either DL

We're not talking about one child spending more time with their parent(s) than another VS. We're talking about a child who chooses to walk away from their parents and have nothing more to do with them.

We've made our decision and are comfortable with it, some EP's will do the same and others wont but it is not for you are anyone else to judge whether or not we love the children who have estranged us.

Well, yes, apparantly, estrangement no longer counts when the Will is read.🙄. I have seen this do many times, over the years.

Elderly parents ignored/estranged, and the minute they die, we can hear the screech of tyres with the family turning up to see what they’ve got.🙁

As you probably remember, my late DH had left both of his children a substantial amount. All good.

However, by the time he died, and despite my pleading with them, they had treated him so disgracefully that he reached a point of cutting them out completely. He left the money to those that had loved and cared for him.

They sulked and cut me off when that happened, (an added bonus!), but, hopefully, they now understand that we reap what we sow.

Better to treat people well in life than waste energy fretting about their money when they’ve gone.

VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 15:37:44

As I said, I am engaging in the discussion the same as anyone else, trying to support others to either have healthy relationships or move on in a healthy way... On a forum that supported me in the same way

People don't always agree with me and that is always ok, people don't always agree in ways that are very personal and actually unfair/untrue but I won't retaliate

Iam64 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:37:15

Wasn’t me GSM though I fear my response might be next.

Iam64 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:36:40

VioletSky

Bridie22

Debs 8, its just a mind game to VS, she likes to stir the pot and then flounce away.

Would you mind explaining this comment further?

I'm engaging in a discussion the same as anyone else here an only working to help others either have a healthy relationship or move on from one in a healthy way.. as I have myself with support on this forum

I confess to finding it difficult to see your healthy relationship ability demonstrated during discussions on estrangement VioletSky. Posts in the recent part of this debate seem to me to be provocative and goady, you get the response you seek then press the report button

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 23-Mar-24 15:30:37

Obviously someone reported …

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:29:02

Grossly unfair deletions Gransnet, VS has had many complaints about her behaviour, and we should have the same right as her to comment and react

spabbygirl Sat 23-Mar-24 15:19:10

I'm in that position too, my eldest daughter hasn't spoken to me for 6 years so I changed my will to have her share go straight to her children to be managed by my younger two children until they are 25.

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 15:09:52

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VioletSky Sat 23-Mar-24 14:49:43

Bridie22

Debs 8, its just a mind game to VS, she likes to stir the pot and then flounce away.

Would you mind explaining this comment further?

I'm engaging in a discussion the same as anyone else here an only working to help others either have a healthy relationship or move on from one in a healthy way.. as I have myself with support on this forum

Bridie22 Sat 23-Mar-24 14:40:24

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