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Mamasperspective Sun 12-May-24 21:19:55

Hi Gransnet,

I have been a member for some time now and, although not a gran myself, I am an older mum (early/mid 40s) to 2 little people (toddler and baby). Partner and I are very happy and settled in our relationship and our kids are happy and thriving.

For context - after giving birth to my first, it felt like MIL was trying to take over my motherhood experience and it negatively impacted me and my ability to bond with my new baby. I had waited 9 months to meet the child who I had grown inside me and carried for all that time and it felt like MIL became quite territorial over my baby (my mum passed before my children were born) which created a lot of resentment.

Since then, both partner and I had an open yet polite and respectful conversation with MIL on how her actions had impacted me and my experience as I was pregnant again and didn't want the same experience the second time round.

The response I got made her out to be the victim, it was extremely passive aggressive and she was throwing in example of things that had happened to her throughout her life that had nothing to do with me or baby. She then made the decision to cut me off but she still wanted to see her son and our child, just without me.8

Anyway MIL has not spoken to me for a year (I have reached out a few times) and she has now been stopped having access to our 2 children.

My kids are young and kids do not develop autobiographical memory before the age of 4/5 so my eldest will never remember her being around and she never met my youngest.

I joined this site during the periods where I was reaching out and wanting resolution as I hoped that, by looking at others experiences, it would help me understand her train of thought but now I am completely done with her.

Please, for anyone estranged, feel free to ask me anything so that I may attempt to provide some context from a DIL's point of view.

I will be completely honest anbout my experience and not sugar coat anything but at the same time I will do my upmost to be kind and respectful so I just ask the same from anyone commenting.

I just feel like if communication was more open and everyone was willing to look more objectively at their own behaviour (as well as being mindful that things are different now to years ago) then many (not all) of these situations could be avoided.

All my partner and I wanted was to build our own little family together and there has been so much drama that, in my mind, was completely unnecessary. I may ask questions in response but please understand this is because I'm still trying to understand why someone would want to handle a situation in the way it has been handled.

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 13:19:55

eddiecat78

It says a lot about someone's character when they choose to post for the first time just to be unpleasant

I think that is actually true of every individual thread. Posting for the first time to argue on any separate thread will show a negative facet to a person's character.

eddiecat78 Fri 17-May-24 13:16:16

It says a lot about someone's character when they choose to post for the first time just to be unpleasant

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 13:14:46

Again i find it really troubling that people have such a negative experience here they post about it elsewhere and they feel they are having to fight and argue to be allowed any space here

We don't have to fight and argue though, taking a deep breath and explaining patiently our point of view has been shown as effective

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 13:14:21

Welcome to GN EllaMayo

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 12:59:37

We were all new once

And new to post doesn't necesarily mean new to reading the forums.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:54:24

Yes DL it always fascinates me how a 'new' one comes along with the knowledge they have, or have they been 'lurking' for sometime but never posted before hmm.

DiamondLily Fri 17-May-24 12:51:05

Gransnet must be placing adverts somewhere with the amount of new people rocking up this week, apparently knowing so much about other posters…😑

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:42:22

ps especially when the poster is new to GN.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 12:41:30

No worries EllaMayo, happy to oblige smile

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 12:24:22

Thank you for proving my point Smilless2012

Bridie22 Fri 17-May-24 12:12:37

ella mayo, that was nasty and personal remark you made to smileless , you are lower8ng the tone further !

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 11:36:37

Thank you for the advice EllaMayo but it isn't needed. My recollections of VS's experiences on GN are fact, as I have already said.

EllaMayo Fri 17-May-24 10:53:52

Smileless2012

Your recollections are not facts just because you say they are. They are colored by your experiences and bolstered by repetition. Other people recollect the same events differently. This is human nature. You would do well in life to apply this to your relationship with other people. Such as your own children.

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 10:13:38

maxiepants

I'm sorry this is making you feel down, VioletSky. I've always thought you make great sense and come at things from a very empathetic and gentle angle.

I cannot say the same for some others on this forum.

Thank you for saying that

VioletSky Fri 17-May-24 10:12:55

Whiff no, I wasn't believed but I did send my diagnosis letter gransnet and explain. I let it go too far arguing but it does take 2 to argue and I was always outnumbered, hence the many reports against me. Many comments were deleted though, not just mine and often my comments were twisted into different meanings which was sad and did push me over the edge at times.

As you can see I am absolutely fine now and my mental and physical health is great.

Smileless2012 Fri 17-May-24 09:28:49

The opening post did what it was designed to do - cause arguments, with other posters cheering from the sidelines hmm I wonder if they're enjoying their popcorn DL.

DiamondLily Fri 17-May-24 07:46:04

Whiff

I know this will be deleted. VioletSky do you mean when you first joined GN when you joined under your old name then got banned . But after a half hearted apology on the chat thread GN let you rejoin under your new name. That apology thread was deleted because so many of us me included got our posts deleted because we didn't believe you. As many will remember why you got banned in the first place . You weren't the only one to get banned at the same time as they joined in with you . I don't know if they rejoined under a new name but you where the only one who GN asked to apologise.

I expect this will get deleted within minutes of me posting .

The opening post did what it was designed to do - cause arguments, with other site posters cheering from the sidelines.🙄

Fine, it succeeded in that, and if it’s made people happy in some way, then ok.🤷‍♀️

But, I’m not wasting any more time arguing about a situation I’m not even sure exists.🙂

Whiff Fri 17-May-24 07:30:02

I know this will be deleted. VioletSky do you mean when you first joined GN when you joined under your old name then got banned . But after a half hearted apology on the chat thread GN let you rejoin under your new name. That apology thread was deleted because so many of us me included got our posts deleted because we didn't believe you. As many will remember why you got banned in the first place . You weren't the only one to get banned at the same time as they joined in with you . I don't know if they rejoined under a new name but you where the only one who GN asked to apologise.

I expect this will get deleted within minutes of me posting .

maxiepants Fri 17-May-24 01:33:02

I'm sorry this is making you feel down, VioletSky. I've always thought you make great sense and come at things from a very empathetic and gentle angle.

I cannot say the same for some others on this forum.

Smileless2012 Thu 16-May-24 20:36:30

It doesn't interest me TBH but each to their own.

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 19:39:55

I've never come across any gransnet screenshots.
People must have very dull lives if they find them fascinating, I think.
I need to check out for myself, I think, because I have never actively searched, admittedly.

VioletSky Thu 16-May-24 19:32:46

Absolutely not

Curiosity sent me on an internet search though and screenshots from gransnet are everywhere... Some of them are of me

And the opinions of younger generations about us are sometimes positive but overall... Just not

I feel quite down about that

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 19:19:55

I'd say I'm an avid reader of threads, so probably.
Also, if I missed anything, it was bound to be carried on, and on, and on, and on... if it was contentious.

How about you?
Have you read every post and thread?

VioletSky Thu 16-May-24 19:15:16

MissAdventure

What circumstances?
The ones where she joined in discussions the same as every one else and was afforded equal respect?

Because that is what I've seen since she has been here.

MissA you've seen her every post and comment?

MissAdventure Thu 16-May-24 19:07:16

What circumstances?
The ones where she joined in discussions the same as every one else and was afforded equal respect?

Because that is what I've seen since she has been here.