Has Estrangement Affected Your Confidence

OK fair enough.

No, I don't

No IMO it proves nothing of the sort so perhaps as I suggested to User, you and I should also agree to disagree.

It proves that User138562 had a reason for saying what she did and she was correct

Maybe not, but what does that prove? It certainly doesn't justify the accusation that those who have talked about the fact that there are questionable counsellors and therapists out there of having an anti therapist strategy, and I say that as an abuse survivor.

I'm afraid you likely won't meet an abuse survivor who hasn't heard those words from an abuser if they suggested joint counselling or counselling for themselves while they were still in the relationship

Myself included

They're peoples opinions VS and it's interesting isn't it that because they weren't given by someone who has estranged, they're viewed as an anti therapist strategy, a controlling tactic to bring people down to someone else's level so they can be kept there.

What were they intended for then?

Disagree that the comment you did a screenshot of and others of similar content, are intended to discourage anyone from seeking therapy or counselling VS.

Disagree about how other people feel reading comments like that?

My point stands too User so we'll have to agree to disagree.

That was a lot of typos.

I'm not going to argue with you. We both know what I mean. We both know who says these things. And there are may more examples thoughtout many of these threads. But I'm not going to spend time telling you things you already know.

My point stands. Discouraging someone either directly or indirectly from seeking help that could improve their live drastically is a controlling tactic to bring people down to where you and and keep them there.

I will not answer further bad faith questions.

If I were needing help and those statements came from a trusted source I would feel discouraged too so User138562 isn't the only one

Thank you VS but that isn't an example of a poster discouraging anyone. The poster says they believe counselling and psychotherapy to be very important while recognising that it isn't always done well.

I can't quote so here is a screenshot for you Smileless

I can't find something that isn't there User. If I'm wrong, show me where these posts are.

You are wrong, smileless, and you have your own eyes so feel free to find it yourself.

The point, surely, is that people do what works for them. People have opinions, but that’s all it is.🤷‍♀️

If it’s working, then I can’t believe anyone would be influenced with what random posters think on any site.

Not on this thread User. Applegran recounted what happened with her AC after they'd received counselling/therapy and this was commented on by other posters, but no one has discouraged anyone from seeking therapy.

If I have missed this happening, please direct me to the relevant posts.

I’ve always said I don’t want it, but I would never discourage anyone from doing anything.

Not my circus, not my clowns - if people think something helps, whatever it is, then go for it.🤷‍♀️

Yes smileless, people have been discouraged from seeking therapy here. I guess you just missed it.

Common tactics used by bullies. I'm glad she was let go, bullies can make life very unpleasant for others if they're allowed to get away with it.

Yes, I was struggling with someone I worked with, thankfully management did cotton on to her bully tactics in the end, her word twisting, little digs and always seeming to have a double meaning when she spoke... After I learned how to stand up to her politely, it became really noticeable and she started to do it to others... She got let go

asking me questions that helped me put the puzzle pieces together myself a good example of how counselling should be conducted VS. Enabling the client/patient to draw their own conclusions without putting any thoughts or ideas into their heads.

I've always found being able to shut down difficult people politely is an invaluable tool.