Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

I've pm'd you Babs

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Just seen your post Babs; hope the pre surgery check goes well .

Morning everyone.

I don't know if you saw the posts before they were deleted BoBeep. I only saw the first as thanks to GN they were deleted extremely quickly. That was to me and was very unpleasant and intended to hurt, which it failed to do.

I agree that as parents we do have a tremendous role in shaping our children's lives, but that doesn't make us responsible for the decisions they make as adults.

That poster may well be troubled and have problems in their life, they may or may not be as a result of their childhood but I am not their mother, nor are any of the other posters on this forum, so to attack me or anyone else on this forum is completely unacceptable.

Pantglas' response was perfectly reasonable IMO and in no way was she stooping to the level of that poster.

I struggle to find pity for anyone who with the safety of the anonymity GN provides, posts with the sole intention of hurting others who are already in pain. I always try to be charitable DL but struggle to be so in those circumstances.

At least all those on GN who have been estranged can hold our heads up because some of the posts we've seen recently directed at EP's would never be directed by us at those who have estranged.

As you say DL Ah well, on we go.
Great pumpkin Whiff you're so clever, I feel rather .

Have a friend coming for lunch today, her first visit to our new home and it's a beautiful morning with clear blue sky and . I hope you all have sunshine today too.

So clever Whiff, love the pumpkin...wish I was arty like you.🙂

@Bo Peep good to hear from you 👋🏽

Whiff

Here are my efforts at crafting

Great work Whiff. Glad you joined knit and natter and are busy with your creative efforts, will have to see what you come up with next. And yes the dark mornings are brutal is like getting up in the middle of the night.
Last night we had massive storms here, thee was thunder and lightening for hours. Funnily enough the thunder stopped but the lightening continued for a long time afterwards.
Xx

Morning all, on the train to London to support our daughter and SiL who are taking our 9 month old GS to GOSH for a pre surgery check. Will have the springs in his skull removed soon. Not as big an op as last time but still a major worry.
Will treat them to lunch later.
Take care xx

Pantglas2

Disruptor3000

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Nope…you’re totally responsible for how you’ve ended up sunshine!

So telling, the attacks you feel the need to make - self inflicted, reflected bitterness and you really need to follow the example of Smileless and Bridie and countless others on this site and move on to the happiness that they’ve gained in self reflection.

May you find the peace that the rest of us have 🙏 and not feel the need to hurt.

Yep, but I think these posts, over the last couple of days, and a few others have been nothing but wind ups.🙄

To be charitable, I expect some of these people are sad and lonely souls who just unable to form any sort of real life relationships.

More to be pitied I expect.

The rest, seem to be looking at this as some sort of experiment because they want to be “fascinated” lol. 😷🤐

Ah well, on we go. 😉

Hope everyone has a lovely day x 💐

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Here are my efforts at crafting

theworriedwell when my son estranged me he did all our side of the family. My brother wanted to go round and sort him out and ask what the fig he had ever done to him . And in my brother's words bitch slap that wife of his. But told him to stay out of it it was done and that was then end of it. Other threads have said to others apologise to your adult children for your behaviour but I have nothing to apologise for . It was my son's decision no doubt fuel by my daughter in law to cut me out of their lives . I didn't even see it coming . But what hurt me the most was realising my son was cruel and a coward . Both our children have always been able to talk to us about anything and that continued after their dad died.

At least here everyone knows what it feels like . Just grateful I had had silence these last 4 years and not the things others have gone through. Other threads blame estranged parents because they project what they did to their own parents onto to all parents . And don't believe parents who say they don't know why our children decide one day we are desposable.

Talk about dog grooming I meet a man the other day with a beautiful cockapoo it was a mix of champagne and white colour. It had been to the groomers and had his winter fur cut. The owner said he was very curly before the fur cut. But he's dog loved the pampering and was always eager to get to see the groomer.

Better get up just noticed the time . Take care all and hope I don't get soaked today like I did yesterday.

Oh dear don't read this thread for a day and the saddo's have been at it again . What empty lives they must live. This thread has weathered any and all attempts to derail it but it's still going . So it testament to the old guard that it's still as vital as it was when it started. Strange thought popped into my mind 300 Spartans they fought against overwhelming odds but still won in the end because of their fighting together as one and defending those who needed it. Ok I know I have weird thoughts but that's me 🤣.

Pantglas wonderful response.

Technology has allowed people to talk to others and get help for any and all situations but it has also given rise to people who in real life wouldn't say boo to a goose but because they are anonymous they try hard to hurt and belittle people . But they won't win as they are cowards .

It's like those protesters who are supposedly proud of marching and attacking the police . But if they really believed in their cause they wouldn't cover their faces . They would be proud of what they believe in and show the world who they are .

Anyway enough about them.

Smiles when Mr W had his vasectomy the surgeon said you will beable to play golf the day after my idiot of a man said that's good as I don't know how to play 😂.

One of our old neighbours was a mad golfer and tried to get my dad to give it a go but my dad just said it was a good walk spoilt. My best friends dad was mad on golf and played in lot of competitions and usually won. But she made me laugh when he reached a certain age and had to play in the veterans competitions and all the prizes where jumpers .

My daughter's father in law plays golf and along with others gets reduced membership fee as they help look after the course maintenance. Dark mornings ,evenings and weather doesn't stop them playing . Hopefully women are treated equally nowadays at golf clubs . Another thought popped into my head of Samuel L Jackson at the end of one of his films playing golf in a kilt . 😁.

Oh dear seems I am going to have one of those days with weird things popping into my head.

Retail therapy is always good as I have got most of my Christmas presents already . Love giving presents but always worry about what people spend on me .

DiamondLily all you have been through the last couple of years with your darling husband and Miss D and supporting your family through all she has put you all through. Hope you can spend Christmas day with your great granddaughter and your family. Whilst it will be tinged with saddest without the other half of you there I am sure she will give you all the kisses and cuddles you need. My other half loved Christmas so I have only allowed myself to feel sad and cry on Christmas eve never Christmas day . Looking forward to 1st December so I can change my door bell ring to the Christmas one .

Didn't realise how eerie it was going out in the dark morning until yesterday. I went to the Brain Charity to join their knit and natter group as they said I would be welcome with my cross stitch. So had to leave home at 7.15am to catch my bus then train . When I got their one of my gel printing class was there and told me about the craft group so I joined that with here . Had fun and the 2 hours flew by . I made a ghost and pumpkin. Apart from cross stitch and my efforts at gel printing not crafty or have the imagination to just look at a 🟠balloon and think pumpkin. But stuffed with cotton wool, no easy task made a pumpkin. Can't wait until next week. Have ordered some things from the works to take each week. Taking cake next week I asked if they would like it and explained about my love of baking . The atmosphere was like the gel printing class something my old craft group had lost .

Had my covid jab on Tuesday still got a sore arm and it made my PAF kick in and my heart went crackers for half hour then I was fine , flu jab today so that will be me covered for another year. Had the pneumonia one last year but you only need that once . Just wish I could have the shingles one but got to wait until I am 70. As I was 65 last year before the start date for people getting it. Have reminded my brother he can get it as he's 65. I was lucky when I got shingles this year got the anti virals within 24 hours of the rash appearing. Plus already on pain killers for nerve pain plus other painkillers so I didn't suffer like I know others have . My son had it when in his early 20's and he was in agony and had to have 2 weeks off work. He didn't realise what it was so by the time he went to the doctors it was to late for the anti virals. Has a large scar back of his neck because of it.

BoBeep good of you to give your support. Hope to hear more from you .

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Blimey another one!
Missed this, and am glad I didn’t get to read the posts this time.
@Pantglas good reply.
I somehow doubt this will be the end of it though.
🤔

Lovely response Pantglas .

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Nope…you’re totally responsible for how you’ve ended up sunshine!

So telling, the attacks you feel the need to make - self inflicted, reflected bitterness and you really need to follow the example of Smileless and Bridie and countless others on this site and move on to the happiness that they’ve gained in self reflection.

May you find the peace that the rest of us have 🙏 and not feel the need to hurt.

Reported!

Oh dear another one; don't you have anything better to do?

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It's heartening to see GN finally taking our concerns seriously and promptly.

Morning everyone.

Well done for the prompt reporting of that very unpleasant poster and thank you GNHQ for your prompt action. We do seem to be having a run of them at the moment don't we, which makes this thread all the more important.

A safe place for genuine people to share their experiences, good and bad . I sometimes think I should feel sorry for those who feel the need to project their own issues onto others, especially EAC who do so to EP's, but I seldom do and tend do have sympathy for the parents they've estranged.

It could narrow your search Babs if you want somewhere that overlooks a golf course and push the price up. Enjoy your ploughman's lunch.

I've seen the pics of little Joey when you've groomed him Yogin and you do a great job. We tried during lock down but our efforts were left wanting, they certainly didn't look anyway near as beautiful as they do today.

Mr. S. played golf when he was a lot younger but still plays well, there doesn't seem to be a sport that he isn't good at!!! He's had a few rounds here and is going to teach me in the Spring, which should be entertaining if nothing else .

An ache in my left arm from the Covid vaccine but nothing from the flu one in my right arm. That's the extend of any side effects we have so am happy to have them done, but each to their own.

It's often the way when you've had an extended period of stress and heart ache that it comes as a bit of a shock when things settle down DL, despite how welcome it is.

We had some retail therapy yesterday. A couple of pairs of new trousers and a fab shirt for Mr. S.; 2 new pairs of jeans and 4 tops for me. I was trying to get Mr. S. to splurge on himself a bit more but he wasn't interested.

Can't understand it, I love a bit of retail therapy .

Babs03

Thankfully the fake post and resulting thread has been removed.
The lengths sone posters will go to in order to torment EPs is appalling.
🥺

Sad individuals. Best ignored. 😉

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