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Newbie but not to estrangement

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Flipityflop Sun 15-Dec-24 17:12:53

So yes, I am a newbie to the forum but not to estrangement. It will be 11 years this Christmas. Its still raw, I cry so often and get jealous of people with children and gran children as I feel we will never experience that. Seems a bit too long with out reconciliation now, although I have thought about contacting but fear the mental health of the estranged child may push them to do something terrible. I have 11 years worth of cards for birthdays, Christmas etc but it doesn't get easier. I plod on but my own mental health has really suffered. I have gone from an extrovert, family orientated mum to a fractured mum, with a very fractured family that has had far reaching repercussions. I have been replaced, someone else took over my role as a mum, someone paid to look after my beautiful daughter. I have tried to move forward, have had counselling, cbt you name it but it still hurts so much sad

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-24 09:11:23

It's good to know that you've managed to reconcile Ziggy. As you say it isn't easy especially at Christmas, and it's a shame that some appear to be determined to make it even harder.

Ziggy62 Mon 16-Dec-24 09:07:06

Smileless2012

^Many many people feel the same as banned posters, they just don't express it here^ really User!!! Well if that is the case, it's a good thing that they keep their feelings to themselves isn't it.

Why anyone would feel the need to make posts of this nature is beyond me but does explain why they've been banned.

If someone's being directly attacked, it's understandable that they feel the need to respond Ziggy. It's not those who respond to the nastiness who have no thought for the OP, its those who target a new thread on this forum and I wouldn't classify what's been happening on this forum lately as playground squabbles.

Perhaps you could try and imagine just what it's like to be an EP/EGP, especially at this time of year and how you would feel being subjected to the nastiness we've seen here.

I have been an EP/EGP, I know exactly how it feels, so I don't need to "imagine just what it's like"
I had many heartbreaking days over the Christmas periods.
Thankfully (after some years) we were able to reconnect as a family

The whole point of my post earlier was to support the OP and suggest that by ignoring the trolls it may help
But I'll keep my thoughts on this very emotional subject to myself in future

Wishing you and all other EPs the best Christmas possible, I know it's not easy

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-24 09:06:57

It's heartening to see the nastiness here being called out by posters who are not estranged as well as by those who are.

Madgran77 Mon 16-Dec-24 09:02:28

Ziggy62

Why, oh why, do people reply to the "trolls" and attention seekers on these estrangement threads?
It takes away from the original post and feeds the need of the troll's narcissistic need for attention
Please spare a thought for the OP and stop. Just report and ignore

I tend to agree but occasionally I think an acknowledgement of the ridiculousness of a viewpoint eg generalisations are worth it whilst also reporting.

Ziggy62 Mon 16-Dec-24 08:56:54

I give up
Have a good Christmas all xxx

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-24 08:55:18

I don't think you are being daft MissA. It means a lot to the EP's on this forum to get support from others, especially if they're not estranged themselves.

Seeing that their nastiness isn't just challenged by those who have been estranged, posters with 'no axe to grind', gives more impetus to the criticism they receive.

Thank you for your support xx

Smileless2012 Mon 16-Dec-24 08:50:10

Many many people feel the same as banned posters, they just don't express it here really User!!! Well if that is the case, it's a good thing that they keep their feelings to themselves isn't it.

Why anyone would feel the need to make posts of this nature is beyond me but does explain why they've been banned.

If someone's being directly attacked, it's understandable that they feel the need to respond Ziggy. It's not those who respond to the nastiness who have no thought for the OP, its those who target a new thread on this forum and I wouldn't classify what's been happening on this forum lately as playground squabbles.

Perhaps you could try and imagine just what it's like to be an EP/EGP, especially at this time of year and how you would feel being subjected to the nastiness we've seen here.

Babs03 Mon 16-Dec-24 08:23:25

Apologies Flippetyflop
🙄

Babs03 Mon 16-Dec-24 08:22:51

Thanks GN
Hope you return Flippetyflip, or try the support thread, at this time of year is harder than usual for all of us who are estranged.
Am wishing you all the best 🌺🌺

MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 08:10:51

Thank you.
I'm ashamed to say I'm not estranged, even.

Just have seen the depths some of the trolls sink to, and I'm glad that they are dealt with as they should be now.
I've every respect for the estranged parents (or children) who manage to move on, so I really won't be daft again. flowers

Ziggy62 Mon 16-Dec-24 07:53:44

MissAdventure

Oops. Apologies, and point taken.

Sorry, O.P blush

Sending hugs, it's not easy xx

MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 07:46:44

Oops. Apologies, and point taken.

Sorry, O.P blush

Ziggy62 Mon 16-Dec-24 07:42:57

Why, oh why, do people reply to the "trolls" and attention seekers on these estrangement threads?
It takes away from the original post and feeds the need of the troll's narcissistic need for attention
Please spare a thought for the OP and stop. Just report and ignore

Ziggy62 Mon 16-Dec-24 07:40:15

Flipityflop

So yes, I am a newbie to the forum but not to estrangement. It will be 11 years this Christmas. Its still raw, I cry so often and get jealous of people with children and gran children as I feel we will never experience that. Seems a bit too long with out reconciliation now, although I have thought about contacting but fear the mental health of the estranged child may push them to do something terrible. I have 11 years worth of cards for birthdays, Christmas etc but it doesn't get easier. I plod on but my own mental health has really suffered. I have gone from an extrovert, family orientated mum to a fractured mum, with a very fractured family that has had far reaching repercussions. I have been replaced, someone else took over my role as a mum, someone paid to look after my beautiful daughter. I have tried to move forward, have had counselling, cbt you name it but it still hurts so much sad

Thinking of you, especially at this time of year. Sadly most threads on this painful subject turn into playground squabbles instead of support for OP.
But there is support from others in your situation
Hope you find some peace soon

Allsorts Mon 16-Dec-24 07:37:35

Flippityflop, I’m sorry you have encountered the trolls, as you can see by their abusive language this us how some, not all by any means, estranged adult children feel, embittered and wanting to hurt just not a person you would want in our lives. The best thing is not to-reply as that's what's they want and aim for, just report and avoid.
Many understand your feelings and you have given been good advice, a lot of us are long term estranged and its too late to connect again. They are happy with their decision which we could not change, we just support each other and welcome you in,

ImNotVisualStudio Mon 16-Dec-24 07:02:43

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MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 06:59:39

Call a wambilance!
Get it to take you the battered and bleeding trolls department.

MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 06:57:29

Ah, but it obviously means so very much to you, for the few minutes it is.
It must do or you wouldn't keep popping up like a bad smell.

ImNotVisualStudio Mon 16-Dec-24 06:56:41

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MissAdventure Mon 16-Dec-24 06:53:04

How about few few imutes per incarnation x 35?

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Madgran77 Mon 16-Dec-24 06:50:15

MissAdventure

You're the expert on that, obviously.

Clearly MisAdventure! Dear me.

Madgran77 Mon 16-Dec-24 06:48:19

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