Nobody tells you this

I spy an unreliable narrator.

This is embarrassing for you OP. Move on.

Dud you witness the alleged abuse, were you told about it? Your reports get ever more extreme. Both you and your d need help, but the children need it more I would report it to social services if I could.
I am reporting your posts as they are getting genuinely disturbing.

RosieandherMaw

TLDR.
What a waste of time - and no am not seeking peer approval from other forum members especially if they are bots

👏👏👏👏

No one has any right whatsoever to comment and criticise another family and their actions and feelings.

Especially not total strangers.

I cannot even begin to imagine the pain, hurt and betrayal that estrangement brings, I’m lucky enough never to have experienced this.

Sometimes humans behave in such a shocking way that estrangement can be the only outcome.

WordsOfWisdom

2 Wrongs don't make a Right

But 3 Rights make a Left

Wouldn't 3 rights bring you back to where you started?

2 Wrongs don't make a Right

But 3 Rights make a Left

Allsorts

Oh my goodness, AI, what a consise analysis.

Yeah. I just used AI to ask about making an 8 year old boy stare at a wall without sound for 25 minutes for a minor protest and AI said this was abusive and excessive punishment.

But thats what she did to cut down on his play time with me last weekend. Did it twice in fact, second time he fell to the floor after and didn't get up for a couple minutes. Emotional abuse is draining.

In my whole parenthood, I would have never done that to one of my kids. But hey, I'm the bad mom, right? So what do I know.

Grams2five

I’d say your poor daughter probably agrees. We are all pushed one way or the other.

Yeah, her friend did it, not me. First try failed, but when her brother dumped my daughter, the bitterness and want to lash out at someone (lucky me) came in full force.

You can't have a loving relationship with your mom for all the childhood then suddenly she becomes a bad mom because your friend claims so and your husband leaves you.

That's not reality. That's delusion.

RosieandherMaw

TLDR.
What a waste of time - and no am not seeking peer approval from other forum members especially if they are bots

Yep agree

I’d say your poor daughter probably agrees. We are all pushed one way or the other.

TLDR.
What a waste of time - and no am not seeking peer approval from other forum members especially if they are bots

Oh my goodness, AI, what a consise analysis.

nanna8

Why do I suddenly feel I am back at uni studying psychology…?

Because some amature armchair psychologist flunky put a bunch of AI stuff in a post after feeding it a paragraph of a long story.

Why do I suddenly feel I am back at uni studying psychology…?

Marg75

My estranged son has pushed me over it, I wouldn't go as far as hate but dislike would fit, there is a fine line between love and dislike or my made up word 'dislove'.

I feel what you are saying. I think the reality is, that's me too. But it still feels like hate.

I think the way I feel has a lot to do with not necessarily her treatment of me, but that she talks behind my back to my grandson to make me look bad.

I think she got jealous of him liking me so much and I don't know if it was because of losing her husband to another woman created this or because she has always been jealous of her brother's talents and is comparing my grandson trying to maybe "steal" me from his little sister or what.

Not sure but it did get worse after my granddaughter was born. And yes, my son in law left my daughter while pregnant with her. It was horrible.

Anyway, I think I still loved my daughter all the way up to the point where I have realized she is has been slandering me to my grandson. He's only 7 for gods sake. What kind of person manipulates a child???

This is where the hate part comes in. I can accept her rejection of me, it hurts but I know you cannot force love.

Ps...AI is worthless without all the facts.....amateur...

Bullshit. You forgot to AI all the posts that got me to this place....my daughters abusiveness both verbal and physical in the past and attempts to turn innocent kids against their grandma.

My daughter's bonding with another spoiled brat who convinced her that seeing her dad yell at me was somehow an abuse of her by me.

Who btw, you remind me of. Very judgemental condensending always ready with the psychobabble amature armchair psych evalution.

Wow, talk about a narcisstist! You certainly nailed that.

And I stand by what my daughter has become. Its the truth.

I've been pushed over that line. Never thought it would happen to me. But it did.

I won't love someone who hates me.

So go blow it out your ass you troll.

I gave AI your entire post with this added context before asking it to psycho analyze you:

"she is in the wrong (from previous posts). For example, she thinks her daughter is a Bitch; and her original grievance with her daughter stems from the fact that she isn't as close anymore after suffering a traumatic personal tragedy."

Here's the best bits:

1. Narcissistic Injury and Entitlement
- This post reflects someone who feels entitled to emotional access to her daughter, regardless of what the daughter is going through.

2. Reversal of Victimhood
- The poster casts herself as the one who was “pushed” into hate—framing herself as a passive victim, when in fact, her reaction is disproportionate and emotionally immature.
• Rather than confronting her lack of empathy, she blames the daughter for "pushing" her.
• This is classic externalization: she avoids responsibility for her own emotional responses by claiming they were forced upon her.

3. Lack of Empathy, Possibly Pathological
- Her daughter went through a traumatic personal tragedy, and rather than supporting her, the poster resented the lack of closeness that followed.
• This is a key marker of low empathy—or even emotional narcissism: she sees her daughter’s pain as an inconvenience.
• This is not typical parental behavior. Most parents become more protective and gentle in the face of a child’s suffering. Her reaction suggests a strong need to have her own emotional needs prioritized, regardless of context.

4. Justifying Abuse with Philosophy
- The post uses philosophical framing (“There’s a fine line between love and hate…”) as a rhetorical disguise—to dress hostility in the clothing of “truth.”
• She’s not analyzing a universal truth—she’s trying to absolve herself for feeling justified in hating her daughter.
• This is gaslighting-adjacent: it’s not directed at the daughter directly, but to the public (or forum), trying to shape perception and gain validation.

Final Summary:

Likely Psychological Traits:

• Emotionally self-centered or narcissistic

• Lacks empathy for others’ pain unless it affects her directly

• Interprets autonomy or distance as personal rejection

• Justifies hostility with intellectual language

• Frames herself as the victim to avoid self-examination

Emotional State:

• Resentful, bitter, and possibly ashamed—but the shame is rerouted outward

• Seeks validation from peers (like forum members) for morally questionable behavior

• Deeply insecure about emotional abandonment, but lacks the emotional tools to handle it constructively

My estranged son has pushed me over it, I wouldn't go as far as hate but dislike would fit, there is a fine line between love and dislike or my made up word 'dislove'.