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Estrangement

Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Thu 26-Jun-25 10:42:51

So here we are again, another thread for friends we've already made and for those we are yet to meet.

The last few days have been difficult because for as long as some of us have been contributing to the support threads, offensive posts from these 'new' members still not only disrupt, but can hurt too.

'The truth shall set you free' popped into my head over the weekend because these 'new' members/trolls/previously banned posters are not being truthful to us here on this forum or possibly to themselves either.

In order for the truth to free us we have to be honest because honesty and truthfulness can liberate us from all kinds of emotional baggage like guilt and fear and also the impact of deception on our lives.

Guilt often prevents 'admitting' to estrangement in the first place and many live with the fear of permanent estrangement, that estrangement is inevitable or the fear of what a reconciliation my bring.

The impact that the deception from those who lie about us to others is sometimes unquantifiable as is the impact of lying to themselves.

What we share may not always be pretty, it may not always be easy to share or to read but it does help ourselves, one another and who knows how many who read but never post and that I believe is what really matters.

Smileless2012 Sat 26-Jul-25 08:28:57

Sorry you're not very well Whiff; take care flowers.

Bridie22 Sat 26-Jul-25 07:22:54

Hope you feel better soon Whiff, take good care of yourself 💐

Allsorts Sat 26-Jul-25 07:19:52

Sorry you are not too good at the moment Whiff. 🤞 you are soon your old self.

Whiff Sat 26-Jul-25 06:40:03

Smiles so sorry about your cousins . That's the problem with pancreatic cancer it hits and kills quicky . You will help the family cope with their grieve .

Sorry only just read . Not very well at the moment. But I will be back to my usual self soon.

Hi to everyone else

Allsorts Fri 25-Jul-25 13:06:43

If I had a choice in how I would die, I would choose quickly every time. Mine, even my estranged d, know I love them and although far from perfect did my best at the time. I had to be the breadwinner so they didn't have what others did, i didn't have the time either. They had a strong work ethic and I was envious of friends who went on fun girly breaks with their daughter and son did dad things. One is grateful the other not so. Both excellent in their careers and happily married. I have come to terms with my faults but it helps they are both able to enjoy what we couldn't. Be a good friend so when we do lose them or they us there's good memories and no regrets. Smileless your cousin had their perfect partner and happiness and the anticipation of dreams to fulfil. Not everyone gets that.

stillawipp Fri 25-Jul-25 11:31:22

That’s very sad Smileless, I’m so sorry. We lost a friend in his 50s to pancreatic cancer a few years ago - he survived 18 months after diagnosis & it was such a very long, drawn-out & torturous time for him & his family….i’m not sure which is worse 😔.

Smileless2012 Fri 25-Jul-25 10:12:41

Morning everyone and many thanks for your kind and supportive messages.

We are so thankful that he didn't have to suffer for a long period and my cousin, who was with him at the end said it was very peaceful. His daughters who'd been with him all night had left for just 10 minutes but maybe that's what he needed to let go.

The speed with which we can lose loved ones is frightening isn't it Allsorts. They had great plans to buy a motor home and travel abroad; so very sad sad.

Babs03 Fri 25-Jul-25 10:00:21

I agree with all the above. Don’t put off till tomorrow what you really want to do right now, do it and enjoy every minute of it. If there is a loved one you have put off seeing go and see them now, and let them know how much you love them.
Sad to hear you lost loved ones so suddenly Allsorts, makes it so hard to come to terms with it but then I ask myself whether seeing a loved one suffering with a terminal illness for a long period of time is any better or far worse.
Never easy.
Take care all 🙏🏾❤️

Madgran77 Fri 25-Jul-25 09:40:09

Smileless so sorry to hear that. You are right - it does remind us to make the most of who and what we have x

Yoginimeisje Fri 25-Jul-25 09:26:24

Allsorts sorry to read about your family's quick deaths, terrible! xx

Smiles hope you are OK today xx

Bridie22 Thu 24-Jul-25 20:26:55

Gosh Smileless that was so quick, so sorry for your loss, take care 💐

Allsorts Thu 24-Jul-25 19:26:14

Sad news Smileless. It is very hard for your cousin having his partner snatched away so quickly.. Everyone apart from my husband in my family have had sudden deaths, most after just two weeks after diagnosis. The worst was my mother, so sudden and so young. You are in shock yourself.

Babs03 Thu 24-Jul-25 12:14:31

So sorry Smiles. Thoughts are with you and the rest of the family 🙏🏾❤️❤️

Yoginimeisje Thu 24-Jul-25 09:33:40

Sorry to read your sad news Smiles. Condolences to you and all he's family xx

Smileless2012 Thu 24-Jul-25 09:05:40

Morning all.

Very sad news this morning. My cousin's partner of 8 years has died of pancreatic cancer. He began feeling unwell 8 weeks ago and was diagnosed 4 weeks later. The speed with which it's taken his life is frightening and again reminds us how precious life is and why we must make the most of who and what we have.

Bridie22 Thu 24-Jul-25 06:50:32

Belated birthday wishes, hope you had a lovely day 🎂🎁🍷

Smileless2012 Mon 21-Jul-25 18:19:55

Happy Birthday cupcake wine flowers x

Yoginimeisje Mon 21-Jul-25 09:05:52

I've no wish to traveler abroad either Allorts hate the ordeal at the airports and many beautiful places to visit here in the UK.

Yoginimeisje Mon 21-Jul-25 09:03:50

Happy Birthday cupcake wine flowers wine

Babs03 Mon 21-Jul-25 08:30:59

Yes I can guess.
A very happy birthday 🥳 hope is a relaxing and peaceful day for you.
Lots of love ❤️ xxx

Whiff Mon 21-Jul-25 08:17:26

Can everyone wish a happy birthday to a very special member of this band. I won't name as she doesn't tell when it's her birthday. But she has been estranged as long as Smiles and Yogin. Bet you can guess . Happy birthday 🎂🎈🎁🥂

Allsorts Mon 21-Jul-25 07:27:33

Yogin, Babs husband can't have another brain scan just yet because of the risk of radiation.
Hope he is soon home.
We all of us in any situation do the best we can at the time. Sometimes I look back and think with hindsight I found have handled it differently.
Made a decision this morning, this next year I am going to do all the important things I want to. More travelling round uk which I haven't seen enough of for a start, not bothered about abroad now, airports are hellish now.

Yoginimeisje Sun 20-Jul-25 08:05:42

Morning all

That's awful Babs that your DH has to wait for another CT scan because of the doctor's strike, anything like that it's vital to be seen to immediately. Yes, the cool weather is refreshing and the rain is much needed. Fingers crossed for your DH xx

Babs03 Sat 19-Jul-25 10:42:29

Mr B home but watching him like a hawk, they are hoping the latest bleed will stop but I have to be vigilant for any possible deterioration, he can’t have another CT until 31st July due to doctors strikes and the fact they don’t want to do too many because of the risk of radiation, and they want to give the bleed some time to see if it stops or continues.
Am a bit of a party pooper inasmuch as I love this rainy cooler weather, our garden looks frazzled and the lawn is yellow, also Mr B struggles with the heat.
I agree with Smiles about your situation Yogi, you can only do your best, and am sorry you went through something similar with your Mum Smiles. Anyway am hoping you are back to your wonderful self Yogi and can’t wait to meet up with you and Joey.
Am afraid this week could be fraught.
Hope your enjoyed your time away with your brother and family Whiff, am sure you will have had a well deserved break.
Take care all and thanks for all kind wishes
🙏🏾❤️❤️

Yoginimeisje Sat 19-Jul-25 10:00:35

Well raining cats & dogs here.

Thanks Smiles can't think of another organization that would have helped, the Compass help line couldn't do anything. Wondering what went on yesterday. Seeing my DD at 2pm for eldeist GD's birthday party, youngest had to cancel cos of her broken arm, but she'll have one in Sept. when it's healed.

I always got on well with my b.i.l, known him since I was 23yrs. He came to my weddings and I his. As you have said Allsorts better the brothers are not together with this upset as I know my ex, even though we got on well at the surprise party, would have pushed my b.i.l to take me off the family group and block me. Think he doesn't like that I'm still very friendly with my in-laws, going to all the parties and get-togethers, even holidays & of course Xmas.

Have a nice but wet day everyone, no BBQ for you this weekend Smiles sad