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Support and friendship for those whose lives have been affected by estrangement.

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Smileless2012 Thu 26-Jun-25 10:42:51

So here we are again, another thread for friends we've already made and for those we are yet to meet.

The last few days have been difficult because for as long as some of us have been contributing to the support threads, offensive posts from these 'new' members still not only disrupt, but can hurt too.

'The truth shall set you free' popped into my head over the weekend because these 'new' members/trolls/previously banned posters are not being truthful to us here on this forum or possibly to themselves either.

In order for the truth to free us we have to be honest because honesty and truthfulness can liberate us from all kinds of emotional baggage like guilt and fear and also the impact of deception on our lives.

Guilt often prevents 'admitting' to estrangement in the first place and many live with the fear of permanent estrangement, that estrangement is inevitable or the fear of what a reconciliation my bring.

The impact that the deception from those who lie about us to others is sometimes unquantifiable as is the impact of lying to themselves.

What we share may not always be pretty, it may not always be easy to share or to read but it does help ourselves, one another and who knows how many who read but never post and that I believe is what really matters.

Yoginimeisje Sat 28-Jun-25 08:20:29

Morning all

Another hot, hot day, so need to get Joey out early again. Read first page of new thread, will read page2 later on today.

Who should I bump into in the park yesterday but... Babs! She is doing well now her DH is back home, her DDs are helping her, hence her walk in the park. Her DH is recovering well at home, the fog is lifting from his brain, I'm sure being at home has done this. Although he told Babs he had had a long conversation with their estranged D, Babs checked his phone and didn't see any such call, so he must have dreamt it. Their house sale/purchase is understandably on hold till Mr.B is better, so probably next year now. She thanks you all for your good wishes & will be back on soon.

Madgran77 Sat 28-Jun-25 07:57:16

Blimey that didn't take long for a return! Good you reported it quickly Whiff. I think it's gone already unless I am missing it.

Whiff Sat 28-Jun-25 07:54:01

See that poster is back under a different name about reconnecting with family and getting money back as compensation. Have reported it .

Dotcom glad to see you back . I am a chatterbox in real life and ramble on places I post . Thank you for saying you like my messages but others are going through tough times it's just I am open about what I am going through. I suppose because I feel safe here I can talk about life. If I still had my husband may not do so . My brother says I have verbal diarrhoea but he's cheeky . Think it's got to my typing finger 🤣🤣.

Look forward to reading what you are up to .

Madgran77 Fri 27-Jun-25 22:07:01

Yes GN seems to have got more aware and proactive which is great.

Smileless2012 Fri 27-Jun-25 17:59:27

It's so good to see you posting again Dotcom, it's awful the way some behave on here, trolling others just because they're estranged parents and driving them away.

They do come back Allsorts but we always spot them and GN are doing a great job getting rid of them again.

Dotcom Fri 27-Jun-25 16:22:41

Hello Allsorts, I too was a poster on here and it became unpleasant and left.
After a few years found the estrangement topic was still here and rejoined.

Not one to post online really but don’t mind PM conversation.

Allsorts Fri 27-Jun-25 14:21:52

Hello Dotcom, don't see you often but good to see you again. I came on here right at the beginning but was trolled by one person who was really 3 people, in the end, I had enough of the negativity as I look forward, I came off the Forum and travelled a lot, I came back on but changed my name as I knew the person would be back, she was recently, working in the same way, changes her name like the weather. Know she must have have mental issues. Made a couple if good friends on here after all this time who thing a lot like me.
After all this time I am now in a good place, have my downs, just want to have newcomers know that things get easier and they have a safe place here, what they are going though which is hell, they will be better times.

Smileless2012 Fri 27-Jun-25 12:56:58

Thank you Dotcom smile

I've no idea Whiff. Including the original 'Cut out of their lives' threads, if we average 3 a year that would make 36 threads so 36,000 posts!!!

Glad your toe is getting better. Hope Joey enjoyed his morning walk Yogin.

It's lovely to see so many chatty, upbeat and supportive posts; a great start to the new thread smile x

Dotcom Fri 27-Jun-25 12:49:33

Would like to say thank you all so much for being steadfast in your helpful comments of support for those of us who are battling with estrangement.

It’s so reassuring for me to read your everyday ups and downs of everyday life.

Love to read Whiff’s messages and how strong she is with whatever life throws at her.

Smileless, Yogin and Allsorts have been on this journey for many years like myself.

Good wishes to you all.

Whiff Fri 27-Jun-25 11:42:47

Hilltop my apologies I did say hello to you . I hope you stay and contribute to the thread.

Toe is much better thank you Yogin the antibiotics are working. At least now I know you can get cellulitis get on your toes . Hope Joey has a cool walk .

SparklyGrandma Fri 27-Jun-25 09:54:35

Hello Smileless and everyone..whew…

Here we go with pages and pages of lovely supportive chat.

Yoginimeisje Fri 27-Jun-25 09:35:29

Will read the new post on here tomorrow...

Yoginimeisje Fri 27-Jun-25 09:34:12

Well done on opening another estrangement support page Smiles.

Just read all the post on the last one.

Hope your toe is better today Whiff our feet are so important aren't they! We all grieve in a different way, our own way which is right for ourselves, no way is wrong. Same thing with this estrangement, we all cope in a different manager.

Bought my tickets for next years Royal Acot grin. there is a dress code for the 'Queen Anne's enclosure' if it's high heels for ladies, I will be breaking the rules as I need comfort more than style now.

Need to get Joey out for walkies before it get's too hot. Will stay under the shade of the big trees in the park, so will be cool.

Whiff Fri 27-Jun-25 09:24:09

I see the old thread has reach 1,000. Smiles do you know how many times the support thread been renewed over the 12+ years? Love to know how many thousands of posts there have been.

Mr S is a dab hand at DIY. Manufacturers change the formula of paints but still call it the same colour. I found when I used the same colour to patch up couple of marks on my living room wall. I used Frosted steel which the room is painted in but it was a lighter colour even after 3 coats so put a picture over it as it stands out like a sore thumb.

Glad you had a nice meal but I bet you can't wait to get back home.

Smileless2012 Fri 27-Jun-25 09:01:35

Morning everyone, great to see that the new thread's got off to a flying start smile.

It's so good to know that you're coming back from a very dark place Mati but I'm so sorry that you've been there sad. I, as I'm sure we all do, remember what that dark place looks and feels like and the real fear that it brings.

The emotional shock of being so hated was like and you couldn't say what it was like. I don't think any of us can put that into words which makes what you've said all the more poignant flowers.

Thank you GN for the speedy deletion. I think you're right Whiff that they must hate the fact this thread is still going and strong as ever and maybe that we are still going despite being estranged.

I noticed that the same poster was deleted on a thread started by an EAC so it makes you wonder what exactly it is that they want hmm.

Mr. S. finished 'making good' yesterday where the pocket door was removed so there's just the wall to paint this morning before it gets too hot. He'll have to paint the whole wall or there'll be a noticeable difference even though it's white on white.

Had a lovely meal out at the Italian last night we've been going too for years; ever since it opened. It's great to be here for a few days and feels as if we've gone full circle as this small market town is where we were married and had our first home.

Have a good day everyone, keep cool and stay hydrated.

Madgran77 Fri 27-Jun-25 08:38:54

At least it was deleted v quickly.

Bridie22 Fri 27-Jun-25 08:07:23

They are a pain Whiff, but we will just keep reporting.

Whiff Fri 27-Jun-25 07:33:18

Oh dear we have a trouble maker again . That didn't take long . Must hate the fact this thread is still going and strong as ever.

Madgran77 Fri 27-Jun-25 06:21:26

Bridie22

Reported

Also by me. Hopefully will be removed soon.

Bridie22 Fri 27-Jun-25 06:03:12

Reported

Razzor Fri 27-Jun-25 02:03:21

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Mati Thu 26-Jun-25 22:03:08

Hi Whiff
Take care of yourself. Love and best wishes.❤️

Whiff Thu 26-Jun-25 20:53:51

Mati sorry you have had a bad time . Thankfully you have your husband and adult child. My son estranged me and sent me the email knowing they had found a problem with my heart. I have a hole in the side I was born with .

I have never felt guilty about the estrangement because I didn't do anything wrong . And when people ask me if I have children always say 2 and 5 grandson's. If they ask if I see them then I tell them the truth and have been amazed at how many people are estranged from their children or other family members.

Thanks to this thread estrangement is no longer taboo. Just look at what the King is going through .

Glad you have found new hobbies and have nice people to hang out with. I go to a sit fit class,move it or lose class,craft group and chat and cuppa . I am a cross stitcher. I found it relieved my stress when looking after my mom . Plus it's the only time my hands don't shake no idea why. 🌹

Mati Thu 26-Jun-25 18:17:20

Thank you Whiff, Smileless, and all the Warriors who are helping to bring self worth and self respect back to us who are now estranged.

I am returning from a very dark place and apparently, am still trolled on sm and asked about things I have no knowledge about in public! I am not on sm, apart from GN today.

Mentally, I am almost back to myself but my physical health took a big hit. The emotional shock of being so hated was like - what did I we do to deserve such nastiness? Such ridicule. I can only think of by joining a new family, they have to disown the original?

However, there is light at the end of the tunnel. People are kind and I am beginning to realize I love my new hobbies and I have found some nice people to hang out with. I am also grateful to an old friend who gave support, as well as, my other adult child and husband. I am convinced once you realize you are OK and are not this awful person (with no evidence)! You are still stung by even the accusations and mockery, by someone you love and once cared for so much.
Sometimes you need to realize you need extra support, and whether it is from therapy or from a support group like this, you must not lose your authentic self and the truth. 💐

Hilltop Thu 26-Jun-25 16:33:09

Lovely to see this thread going strong. I'm six years estranged now but still have wobbly moments. I regularly read on here and am sad/annoyed when the stupid trolls try to cause disruption. But they seem to be dealt with pretty effectively!
Please keep on with the good work. With best wishes to all living with Estrangement.