Estrangement for celebrities

I wouldn’t let a child of mine behave like that to his/her future in laws.

The thing is those of us that read all sorts of newspapers including the tabloids, have been privy to every detail about this affair, and as one who has read up about it, all I can say is the son and Ms Ramsay have behaved absolutely disgracefully to his mother..Starting with - not inviting his mother to the hen do…not liking the outfit his mum bought for the wedding and offering to take her out to get something else..How embarrassing for her…I could go on….

Next thing will be about the divorce or separation of so called celebs.

Different classes of people from different sides of the coin, don’t always mix well.

We shall see.

PoppyBlue - the ‘cape’ Holly was wearing was to conceal the dress. It is part of the magazine deal - no pictures of the dress allowed before they publish theirs.
All part of the sponsorship. It seems a strange way to live doesn’t it?

We don’t know what, if anything, these people have done to upset or alienate their children.
I was engaged to a nice man, but my mother did not like him and hated his parents - I never knew why. She was so rude to them that I would not have had her at the wedding.
I never had to make that decision as I met someone else and broke off the engagement. We are still married 54 years later.

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

BlueBelle

A breast feeding grandmother that’s interesting, now I m wondering are you a very young grandmother or an older mum, good luck either way
( or maybe neither just being lighthearted don’t hang draw and quarter me )

I'm sure Poppyblue isn't the first breastfeeding grandmother and won't be the last 😁

I'm surprised at Gordon Ramsay. From what I know (which is not a lot, I grant you) his private persona is much nicer and kinder than his public one.

Best of luck, Holly, you're going to need it.

PoppyBlue

I only know all that because of the stories she's sold to the papers. Like I also said, the Ramsey's aren't much better.

Do you know them personally?

Do tell!!

Caroline (Peaty), who spent years travelling to swimming competitions, was absent from Holly's hen do at Soho Farmhouse. Guests included Tana Ramsay and Victoria Beckham. However, sources have claimed that Holly felt Caroline didn't match the image she wanted for her event due to her working-class background.

On second thoughts, I withdraw my previous comment about Holly needing good luck.

Who are The Charleton Brothers?

I hope that continues for the Beckham's too Freshair.

The Ramsey's and Peaty do seem to be as bad as each other PoppyBlue. Gordon's speech that his wife would be a good mother to both D and s.i.l. was very cruel in the circumstances and he may find a s.i.l. who treats his own parents so badly, might not be a good thing.

You could be right ReadyMeals.

It is as you say Babamaman so painful .

TerriBull

Celebrities are people, and as such will suffer the same problems the wider population might experience. There are however two types of the famous. Those who live relatively private lives and those who put every aspect of both theirs and their children's lives from the moment they're born into the public domain.

Enter the Beckhams, the ultimate exponents of that. When have they ever given their offspring any privacy whatsoever? Every move, every perceived mistake magnified and commented on. Maybe, they are experiencing something of a backlash with Brooklyn obviously trying to exticate himself from the pre ordained branded life he was born into and yet they keep it going, every slight played out to be picked over. Allegedly, his wife has some beef with D&V and is awaiting for an apology. So naturally that's responded to with the esteemed pair recording themselves dancing to the song "Guilty" highlighting the words "we've nothing to be guilty for". Does it never occur to these two, they are the architects of their own misery? Why are they making this painful episode so public? How is the continual referencing to the spat from the entire Beckham clan so publically going to encourage their son to reconcile, more likely he will dig his heels in deeper now. The Beckenhams alone have elevated the lack of privacy surrounding the family to a whole new level as if it's something to be admired.

Top post. Hear,hear.

Whatever happened to discretion and privacy?

Priceless but for sale by celebs
etc.

The times we live in?

I’m glad I had two girls I wouldn’t particularly want a boy due to having to have a daughter in law, as most women are closer to their mum and therefore maternal grandmother usually sees more of the children.
My late mother in law wasn’t a very nice person and I could never do anything right in her eyes for her son, she had five children but never thought any of their partners good enough
So sometimes it is the mother of sons are the problem, I think it’s far easier being mother in law to a man rather than a woman

PoppyBlue

I only know all that because of the stories she's sold to the papers. Like I also said, the Ramsey's aren't much better.

The interviews with Caroline Peaty made a point of highlighting that she was not paid for the interviews so she didnt sell the story.

Sadly her decision to have her viewpoint published (I suppose possibly because her son isn't communicating with her and she feels a bit desperate) was misguided I think as it is hardly likely to break down the barriers.

So sometimes it is the mother of sons are the problem

Yes! And sometimes the father of the son is the problem. And sometimes the Adult Child is the problem. And sometimes the ACs spouse (DiL/SiL) is the problem. And sometimes thecircumstances are the problem and so on. In other words every Estrangement has a different dynamic with different personalities/behaviours etc etc.
No assumption can be made about the overall causes of the Beckham or Peaty estrangements and as reports in the press vary according to which paper is reporting that isn't reliable either.

Let's hope they all manage to sort it all out but as so much is being conducted by Social Media then who knows!?

Gordon's speech that his wife would be a good mother to both D and s.i.l. was very cruel in the circumstances and he may find a s.i.l. who treats his own parents so badly, might not be a good thing.

I agree Smileless

Madgran77

*Gordon's speech that his wife would be a good mother to both D and s.i.l. was very cruel in the circumstances and he may find a s.i.l. who treats his own parents so badly, might not be a good thing.*

I agree Smileless

I agree too.

Thank you for the info, PoppyBlue.

If that was the way it was, I have less sympathy for Adam Peaty’s mum. I still don’t think uninviting her was justified, though. They could have just called her bluff about not coming if the brother wasn’t invited, then if she didn’t come she didn’t come.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Yes MayBee. Great way to repay your parents Peaty for all the time and money they put into you in the early years of your swimming career. Without that help your medals more than likely would never have materialised.

Ungrateful wretch.

Here I am agreeing with you again FGT2!

G Ramsey and young Peaty have both come from modest backgrounds but it seems that while money can buy the "right" clothes, cars, houses etc, it certainly doesn't buy class.

Allira

Madgran77

Gordon's speech that his wife would be a good mother to both D and s.i.l. was very cruel in the circumstances and he may find a s.i.l. who treats his own parents so badly, might not be a good thing.

I agree Smileless

I agree too.

Adam's ex and mother of his son allegedly gets on well with Adam's mother.
She tries to stay away from publicity, very sensible for her and also the child's sake.

Who were the Charleton brothers ?

I think that should be Charlton - Bobby and Jackie, the footballers.

MollyNew

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Yes MayBee. Great way to repay your parents Peaty for all the time and money they put into you in the early years of your swimming career. Without that help your medals more than likely would never have materialised.

Ungrateful wretch.

Here I am agreeing with you again FGT2!

G Ramsey and young Peaty have both come from modest backgrounds but it seems that while money can buy the "right" clothes, cars, houses etc, it certainly doesn't buy class.

😁
Well, Holly apparently didn't want her future MIL at her hen do because of her 'working class background'.

The Ramsay-Peatys: The show is due to hit Netflix in February, so fans will have to see then how much of the fallout is set to make it to screens.

while money can buy the "right" clothes, cars, houses etc, it certainly doesn't buy class.
Spot on Mollynew.
Tacky.

Trying to catch up here, though I've only just realised Peaty didn't marry the Ramsay daughter from Strictly, but a sister to whom he was introduced at the time.

Did Gordon just mean that he and his wife had gained a son? I've often heard that said at weddings as a way of accepting the new member into the family.

MartavTaurus

Trying to catch up here, though I've only just realised Peaty didn't marry the Ramsay daughter from Strictly, but a sister to whom he was introduced at the time.

Did Gordon just mean that he and his wife had gained a son? I've often heard that said at weddings as a way of accepting the new member into the family.

Adam has added the Ramsey name to his insta account.
adamramseypeaty.