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jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 16:40:42

This is a long one I’m afraid. I have posted on here previously about the very poor relationship I have with my youngest daughter for many years.
I have been helping her look after three of my grandchildren (her three boys) and I’ve been heavily involved in their lives, for example, I’ve done most of the school runs, a lot of the cooking for them,taking them out with her and on my own and helped to settle the middle boy who is now eight and suffers from additional needs at night. This has been going on since the youngest was a baby and he is now seven, I also have been responsible for home educating the eldest boy who is turning 16 since his last birthday when he was struggling at school with anxiety and social problems; however it is not been problem free! my daughter for some reason has a rock bottom opinion of me as a human being! she every day makes disparaging and nasty comments. She attacks the career that I’ve had (which I am proud of) my friendships my appearance ,my weight my intelligence my finances just about everything that you can think of she goes for on a pretty much daily basis. she has openly admitted that she can’t stand me and according to her all of her friends think the same. I have three daughters two of whom I get on brilliantly with( her elder sisters ) and there were no issues there both of them stay clear of her as much as they can because they also find her behaviour toxic when I try to get to the bottom of why she hates me so much it seems to be a multi layered resentment of her childhood she accuses me of having been emotionally unavailable, is angry that we were very short of money and apparently I was a failure at every aspect of parenting, and a let down she knows that I was in effect a single parent on a tiny income for her early childhood and did my absolute best to provide what i could, I absolutely gave literally every penny to her and her sisters, I did not buy clothes or get my hair done through out their childhood ( except when my late mother paid as a birthday treat) they had the benefit of horse riding,French lessons etc never came home to a cold house or went hungry. I accept that I was often depressed and probably was (as a consequence) not the happy go lucky parent her friends might have had and I probably did not understand adolescents very much. When she was a teenager I started back to work and built my career, I worked in a charity sector so my pay wasn't great but it was a worthwhile job and I loved it. I was trying to set an example to the girls of independent womanhood and to provide better financially for them I probably didnt keep my house as spotless as other people because i was constantly exhausted juggling my job and looking after the children. I had no family support at all my mother lived 150 miles away and was not able to help and their fathers family refused to help. I am an only child with no siblings cousins or extended family.
Recently, I have found that the constant abuse and insults with disparagement patronising way she speaks to me has become too much for me to bear the day before yesterday I caught out on having referred to me as obese, ugly, stupid vile toxic and I said to her that her behaviour was completely unacceptable. I wasn’t going to tolerate anymore this culminated in her hitting me and throwing me out of the house since then she has refused to apologise for the physical assault and continues to verbally abuse me. My ex-husband does not support me. He thinks I should just go along with it for a quiet life because the children will be affected but my mental health will not tolerate it anymore. What do I do? Different.

Astitchintime Thu 05-Feb-26 16:46:09

How have you allowed this to continue for so long?
Withdraw from that toxic environment and give yourself time to heal. Be kind to yourself and let her cope alone, hopefully she will soon see the error of her abhorrent ways.

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 16:52:45

I have let it carry on because I worry about the children the eldest boy who is highly intelligent and kind keeps out of the way because he finds her volatile and unpredictable the appalling dynamic between her and me is affecting all three boys, but she clearly can’t cope with them without help. All three of them have additional needs of various types. we have approached social services on numerous occasions, but have not been offered anything other than a pretty ineffective early help worker so I have been trying to plug the gap, but I’m seriously worried about my own mental and physical health if I carry on like this

Netherbyg84 Thu 05-Feb-26 16:53:44

is this generated by AI? I find it hard to believe this is a genuine poster. Everything but the kitchen sink has been thrown in.

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Feb-26 16:56:00

And yet she has given you so much responsibility regarding your GC shock.

I remember you posting before jenpax and am so sorry that only do things not appear to have improved, they've got worse.

Your daughter has physically assaulted you and is constantly abusing you emotionally so now you must walk away and do it now flowers.

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 16:59:57

Netherbyg84

is this generated by AI? I find it hard to believe this is a genuine poster. Everything but the kitchen sink has been thrown in.

Thanks for dismissing my life as an AI chat bot!

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Feb-26 17:01:08

jenpax is not new to GN.

I understand your concerns for the children jenpax but she has physically assaulted you and that alone is reason to distance yourself.

The more you try to plug the gap the more you enable her, as Astitchintime has rightly referred to as her abhorrent ways.
Maybe you should consider contacting SS's again and telling them what you have told us.

If they realise you are no longer willing or able to 'take up the slack' they'll do their job and do something.

MollyNew Thu 05-Feb-26 17:03:49

I'm tempted to say "leave her to it" but I know as a mother that it's not as easy as that. However, your relationship seems to have hit rock bottom if she now feels it is acceptable to assault you. If you wrote her a letter, outlining what you have told us in your post, would she read it?

You can't change someone's behaviour until they are willing to accept they need to change so you either tolerate it or walk away. How would she cope if you stopped looking after the children and what would be the impact on them? You can't protect them if your mental health is suffering so you need to look after yourself. Go and see your GP and also seek support from your local carers hub.

Ignore your ex-husband, he doesn't seem to be involved in the family's life so his opinion is not helpful.

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:04:35

Netherbyg84

is this generated by AI? I find it hard to believe this is a genuine poster. Everything but the kitchen sink has been thrown in.

jenpax has been posting for some time on Gransnet.

I'm sorry it's still ongoing, jenpax and really, for your own sake, you need to tell her you will not tolerate her abuse any longer. Do you live with her and the boys or do you have your own home? I hope do.

Tell her you are willing and happy to see the boys and look after them (if you are) but you do not wish to interact with her. Let her drop them off at your house. Is the oldest one near enough to make his own way to yours? Are you still home p-schooling him?

she has openly admitted that she can’t stand me and according to her all of her friends think the same.
Well, I think that's a lie and absolute rubbish unless her friends are as toxic as her.

My ex-husband does not support me. He thinks I should just go along with it for a quiet life because the children will be affected
Well, that is just not good enough, he might be your ex but he needs to step up to the mark and tell his daughter she is total,y out of order. The children will be affected if they witness this behaviour.

Can you ask your other DDs for help?
I'm sure they would not be happy about this.

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:05:34

Excuse typos. I'm very cross on your behalf.

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 17:06:18

Thank you smileless2012 yes it is the sensible thing to do but I have little to no faith in our over stretched SS and in the mean time i worry about the children. I have refused to help her today and have had my ex pressuring me to give in so its been very stressful

Granmarderby10 Thu 05-Feb-26 17:08:35

Tell your daughter Jenpax you cannot stand for this any longer then just leave her to it.
Also tell the oldest how to contact you if he needs to and make sure he knows who else he can talk to as well as Childline or similar. Best wishes.

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:09:02

You could show your ex this thread.

He needs to be more pro-active and supportive.
Anything for a quiet life? 🤔

Flippin2 Thu 05-Feb-26 17:13:36

jenpax,why is your ex pressuring you to give in?,is your daughter in contact with him ?

Smileless2012 Thu 05-Feb-26 17:13:46

Tell your ex to butt out jenpax. Unless he's hands on when it comes to helping out with his GC and is also subjected to the abuse your D inflicts on you, it's none of his business.

Yes I do understand, so I think you should consider Allira's advice of having the children dropped off at your house and keeping any contact and interaction with your D to a minimum.

I also believe you should tell her that it she ever lays a finger on you again, you will report her to the police.

Grandmabatty Thu 05-Feb-26 17:17:07

Block your ex. He is an ex for a reason. Give your grandson a way to contact you and tell him none of this is his fault but his mum and you aren't getting on. Then pull right back and don't contact her. It's possible your ex has been getting grief from your daughter and/or she's asking him to get involved in helping. It's in his best interests if the status quo is maintained!
I wonder if you have a saviour complex? I'm not being rude (I recognise it in me) because it sounds like you are trying to solve everybody's problems. Even your career focused on helping. Maybe it's time to take stock and stop.

petra Thu 05-Feb-26 17:20:14

Netherbyg84

is this generated by AI? I find it hard to believe this is a genuine poster. Everything but the kitchen sink has been thrown in.

Jenpax is a legitimate member.
Some people might wonder Re your user name. Very BOTish.

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 17:23:46

Grandmabatty

Block your ex. He is an ex for a reason. Give your grandson a way to contact you and tell him none of this is his fault but his mum and you aren't getting on. Then pull right back and don't contact her. It's possible your ex has been getting grief from your daughter and/or she's asking him to get involved in helping. It's in his best interests if the status quo is maintained!
I wonder if you have a saviour complex? I'm not being rude (I recognise it in me) because it sounds like you are trying to solve everybody's problems. Even your career focused on helping. Maybe it's time to take stock and stop.

You may well have a valid point there with the saviour complex my eldest daughter’s raised this with me previously and yes, I do like trying to solve peoples problems.
My ex is still a friend of mine. unfortunately he has mental health problems, which makes him highly anxious and a prime target for her to work on and yes he has been helping out as much as he can, for example he shares the driving with the school runs i’m not really angry with him as such, because I understand yes he wants a quiet life. He doesn’t like conflict and he has had to take a fair amount of abuse and insult from her himself but for some reason he seems to think that you should just suck that up and carry on and I don’t and this is a point of contention between us

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:27:24

Oh, so he is a hands-on Grandad.

Your DD does seem to have everyone jumping to her tune, if you don't mind me saying.
I know you do it for the sake of the boys so it's hard to step back but you need to lay down some ground rules.

Do you both do as much for the others?

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 17:29:33

No we dont as one set are in Australia and the other about 2 hours away she is the only local one

Hithere Thu 05-Feb-26 17:29:36

Op

You can change your life- concentrate on the positive and stop the negativity

You have been posting about your ex and your daughter for years in this board.
Please tell me you do not live with her anymore

Yes, block your ex. NOW

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:30:33

jenpax

No we dont as one set are in Australia and the other about 2 hours away she is the only local one

Can you move? Nearer your other DD?

jenpax Thu 05-Feb-26 17:32:56

Hithere

Op

You can change your life- concentrate on the positive and stop the negativity

You have been posting about your ex and your daughter for years in this board.
Please tell me you do not live with her anymore

Yes, block your ex. NOW

No I am now in my own home again. I was living with her, but I grew to realise that it was intolerable and I left last spring. The best thing I ever did to be honest.

Allira Thu 05-Feb-26 17:34:35

Good.

Pull up the drawbridge!

sparkle1234 Thu 05-Feb-26 17:56:55

Gosh , if my mother had given me all that help and support she would have been cherished . ( she didn't but I cherished her anyway because I understood she wasn't able ) .
I think you need to walk away, no contact for a while . Hard it will be because of the children .
Your daughter sounds depressed , seriously has some mental health issues that need to be addressed but you've become her punchbag not her saviour . Walk away .