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Adult offspring harbouring resentments

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specki4eyes Fri 17-Jul-26 06:19:18

Context: My eldest son is in his late fifties, is married to a very manipulative wife and has teenage children.
Since his marriage, our formerly good relationship changed and became a difficult one to maintain, having been previously easy, loving and mutually supportive. He married in his mid 30s and the children came when he was past 40.
I've reached the conclusion that although he keeps up a semblance of casual contact, he has developed in his head a whole host of grudges and resentments towards me. They are never spoken about to me but he does raise them with his younger brother (with whom his relationship has also become difficult) . It appears his grudges go back many years...some trivial incidents from childhood, some big issues such as me divorcing his father or me emigrating to continental Europe after he was married.
In the background is his sniping, coercive wife who manipulates and rules him and their children, controlling every aspect of their family life to suit her own agenda.
He calls me rarely, usually when she's not around and it's clearly a mere duty call rather than a conversation. During these interactions, he tells blatant lies and tries to convey that his world is perfect.
After years of occasionally trying gently to discuss the change in our relationship, only to be verbally attacked by him and gaslighted to believe that I am the problem , I have given up and I'm now tempted to more or less leave off trying to restore it. Worrying about it is blighting my latter years.
He was a happy child and he and I had a great relationship up until he met his wife to be. She is a great one for spouting psychobabble and using amateur analysis methods when she has no qualification.
What would you do? I've tried everything.

Hilltop Sat 18-Jul-26 22:23:23

No, Smileless, l agree it wasn't offensive, so why bother to do it that way.
Sorry, OP, this distracts from your problem. I maintained a very occasional email relationship with my ES for about six years. But l realised l could never get past the manipulations of his wife, that email can be misinterpreted and that some of his messages caused me distress. I think we could have continued in this way. He would not phone me. He had told me that his childhood had been very happy. Anyway, I've sadly given up now after a very distressing message to me that l believe he later regretted.
I hope you manage to keep contact and don't give up on the grandchildren--they may see what the situation really is as they get older.

Smileless2012 Sat 18-Jul-26 22:30:15

I hope that you will be able to find some peace Hilltop flowers.

We never thought we would, but we have.

specki4eyes Tue 21-Jul-26 15:15:26

Paddyann, of course I don't expect him to prioritise me or even our relationship! That is absolutely not the kind of mother I am.
Quite the opposite...I have always hoped that he would be a good husband and father. His own father was a feckless loser and I divorced him, preferring to bring my sons up alone.
However, I do believe that healthy relationships have worth and should be treated with respect, affection and consideration. I live too far away to have any significant day to day input in his life, nor would I want to have, even if I lived nearer.

Smileless2012 Tue 21-Jul-26 18:31:51

I've never understood why when we have a mother on GN, talking about concerns she has because her relationship with married son her son has deteriorated, there's a suggestion that she thinks her son should prioritise his relationship with her, over his relationship with his wife!!!

You're absolutely right specki4eyes that healthy relationships have worth and should be treated with respect, affection and consideration, and a mother expressing her concern shouldn't be judged so harshly.

Oreo Tue 21-Jul-26 19:25:18

March

After 25+ years I don't think there's much you can do.

Are you willing to listen to him when he brings these things up and discuss them?
If it's not something you want to do, just keep communication open, light and breezy.

Best advice.

March Tue 21-Jul-26 20:04:20

Late 50s, married 25 years with teenagers and you dislike his wife and mother of your grandchildren? And they don't maintain a relationship.

Smileless2012 Wed 22-Jul-26 11:15:39

That's not what the OP says.

striveforgreatness Wed 12-Aug-26 17:31:03

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