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My first grannyisct attack.

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66goodyear Wed 06-Jul-16 21:17:48

So at 49 years old and finding myself a Nonna I am feeling good with myself. Fit, healthy, all my own teeth and only a slightly dodgy pelvic floor- I am enjoying the confidence that comes with that.
Or I was until-
The other day I was on a 65 mile cycle event (30 miles too long in my opinion but I was foolish enough to accept a challenge- which is another story) so to lighten the day and help move along the 65 miles I engaged in some moderate to heavy two way flirting with one of the bike mechanics. The sort of flirting that is harmless; flirting that reminds both parties they are attractive human beings; flirting that puts a smile on your face and a tiny healthy (not dangerous is this a heart attack) flutter in your heart; flirting that doesn't involve a mortgage and bills; flirting- healthy happy flirting.

And then it happened.... As I was leaving the flirting ring with my parting dazzling all my own teeth smile and all my own lashes flutter- and no silicone wiggle- and just as my fellow flirtee dashed off his all his own parting flirting shots...

From my friend (?) my fellow female cycling partner,
it came loud and clear "errrmmmm don't forget you are a grandma".

Well dazzling smiles and parting flirting shots all came tumbling down in an instant as the word grandma hung heavy in the air.
And there it stayed.

Does it mean because I am a Nonna I am no longer able to use my well honed- years of practice flirting skills? Because I am a Nonna do I have to hide my silicone free done me proud got me out of a pickle or two over the years body in a shroud of grey smog? Is my heart restricted to flutters that can only be treated with drugs?

I think not. I have spent years learning to live with and feel confident with this body. I have spent years learning to make this body work for me. I have spent years putting this body through the torture of growing up, through puberty, through pregnancy, through the daily grind of daily life. My confidence has taken years of knocks and bashes, it has pulled itself up more times than its fallen and it is now ready to take on the world at full steam ahead.

Growing old disgracefully? Pah! I am not growing old disgracefully like it is a bad thing- I am growing old with confidence and freedom and if that means I flirt and wiggle and jiggle. Well so be it.

Christinefrance Tue 06-Sept-16 08:50:57

You are still a bright young thing 6 6Goodyear , I have a daughter of your age and would be dismayed if she felt she couldn't enjoy life and have some harmless fun. Live your life to the full and enjoy it.

jenpax Tue 06-Sept-16 07:50:07

I don't know about flirting as it's been many years since I tried. When I turned into a grandparent at 46 I felt instantly ancient! I had thought of myself as still youngish being in my 40's and I made an effort to look ok and feel good, but suddenly the label of grandma knocked all that out and at 52 I haven't recovered. Lots of people tell me I am being silly and that being a grandparent doesn't immediately make you past it, and I don't look at other people that way but it makes no difference to my own self esteem sad

annsixty Fri 15-Jul-16 11:00:40

I live 3 miles from the centre of Stockport in what was a very nice area, a bit run done now but I could walk to several half million pound plus houses in 5 minutes.
I used to help run a brownie pack and we used to take them on pack holiday. We once stayed in a very pretty village some distance away and we went to church on Sunday morning. The vicar announced to the congregation that he hoped they would make the "children from a very poor and deprived area" very welcome.we didn't know whether to laugh or feel very insulted. Now back to flirting.

Jaxie Fri 15-Jul-16 10:13:36

Ta, Jalima. I met a man at a U3A meeting and thought he was flirting, as he informed me I looked ten years younger than my age. ( NOT STEALTH BOAST), as I look like a hag until I get the slap on. Then he asked me where I came from. When I told him: "Born in Manchester, brought up in Stockport." he replied, "Poor you." Bast-rd.

AnnieGran Mon 11-Jul-16 14:14:27

I keep my flirting muscles toned by practicing on my current husband, a Northerner (they are the best). I have yet to see anyone else I can be bothered to flirt with. As Paul Newman once said, "Why eat hamburger when you have steak at home?" grin

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 21:38:50

I guess there are lots of different ways of using the social media and we all do whatever works for us, which is good.

vampirequeen Sat 09-Jul-16 21:31:23

I do not have any real friends. All my friends are virtual and I have many discussions on sites where I chat with all and sundry.

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 20:44:51

Again, you seem to be talking about 'real' friends, even if you communicate with them online, not all and sundry.

vampirequeen Sat 09-Jul-16 20:36:24

All the conversations I'm referring to have taken place online.

I just don't see how everyone who posts about things they have are necessarily boasting.

I talk to people who are substantially richer than me and people who are poorer than me. I don't think the richer ones are boasting. An online friend spent Christmas in a 5 star hotel in Nice. He and his wife had an amazing time and spent a lot of money but hey it's their money and I don't begrudge them their lifestyle.

The suggestion that people only boast about what they have has prompted me to ask someone who has very little whether they feel I'm boasting when I talk about things. She was amazed that anyone would even suggest such a thing.

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 20:24:06

Sorry, really off subject now but personally I think there's all the difference in the world between having a private conversation between friends in 'real life' which may include references to what you can and can't afford and posting on social media to tell the world at large how well off, or attractive, or whatever, you are.

vampirequeen Sat 09-Jul-16 19:55:26

DH and I are in the process of converting an old transit into a campervan. I know that some members have mobile homes of various types that cost far more than I can afford. Am I to assume that they are boasting if we discuss campervans and motorhomes? I thought we were simply talking about something we all enjoy but perhaps I'm being naïve and they were putting me in my place for not being able to afford a 'proper' campervan. Actually I don't think they are. I have no problem with people who have more money than me telling me about their possessions or asking my opinion.

How do you know if someone is posting with an intention to impress or boast? Perhaps they're simply having a conversation.

merlotgran Sat 09-Jul-16 18:58:14

Has 66goodyear been back to comment on her replies?

Jalima Sat 09-Jul-16 18:56:49

Friend was probably jealous.

Jaxie you may find there are plenty of older men who are happy to flirt (until their wife appears from the next aisle!).
Of course, many wives don't mind, their eyes just turn skywards.

Eloethan Sat 09-Jul-16 18:50:12

Why are people getting so nasty about this post?

I get the impression that the poster was feeling quite good about herself (and what's wrong with that?) but her friend put a very definite damper on things. Not much of a friend I would say.

annsixty Sat 09-Jul-16 14:08:56

Aw does that mean I can't ask advice as to how to deal With youngish men I have to beat off with my Louis Vuitton handbag or the second best Mulberry and can anyone tell me how best to store my Manolo whatsit shoes? (I will have to check the boxes darlings as just what they are called).

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 13:04:56

Having said that I guess the whole social media scene - Facebook, Instagram, etc - does encourage that sort of narcissism.

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 13:02:29

I think it's boasting when you post on social media to tell everyone about it, with the aim of impressing them. Just as it would be if you posted to say you were rich enough to have bought the latest It bag, or are incredibly attractive.

vampirequeen Sat 09-Jul-16 10:17:02

Fit, healthy, all my own teeth and only a slightly dodgy pelvic floor.....this could be a description of me. I have also been known to flirt outrageously, esp. when I was in my Jezebel period.

Am I boasting or just stating facts about myself?

townie Sat 09-Jul-16 09:50:11

No, I didn't see much genuine humour, only saw an indirect and long description of how marvellous she is in various ways.
I go on Mumsnet quite a lot, specially the Style and Beauty, and have to admit I picked up the term stealth boast there, when an OP is apparently asking for advice but actually boasting about how attractive/ rich she is or how many designer handbags or shoes she has. People who do that tend to get called out on it - usually politely.

vampirequeen Sat 09-Jul-16 08:59:37

The OP is joking. For heavens sake can't you see the humour in her description of herself.

For what it's worth 66goodyear I enjoyed reading your post and chuckled at your description of yourself.

Noreen3 Sat 09-Jul-16 08:46:41

haven't flirted for a long time,don't think anyone would want to flirt with me,they look at me and see some old woman.Perhaps I need to change my attitude,I would love to be more like the person I was.It's nothing to do with being a Grandma,that is one of the best things in my life,I love having fun with my granddaughter.

janeainsworth Sat 09-Jul-16 03:11:05

Daphne 'stealth boast' was new to me too, but I like it, and it seems to be almost, but not quite, synonymous with the relatively new term 'virtue signalling'.
Nice to be able to keep up, isn't it? wink

DaphneBroon Sat 09-Jul-16 00:08:58

I think the only person being "ageist" here is OP who seems to think there is something unusual in a 49 year-old woman being attractive and attracted to the opposite sex!hmm
"Stealth boast" is not a term I have come across before, but I am beginning to understand it now. grin

belladonna Fri 08-Jul-16 23:17:29

I'm 63 and love to flirt with young men at festivals...especially if they have dreadlocks!!..never been rebuffed yet !

Faye Fri 08-Jul-16 23:08:01

Your friend was obviously jealous 66goodyear, ignore her and keep having fun. I am 64 and my bike is one of my favourite possessions, not that I can ride as far as you but there are many women in their seventies and older who cycle every day. Last year while on a ride with my grandson a man called out to me, "hello girlie." confused Later I told my DIL I hadn't been called girlie for a very long time, she thought that was funny. Male cyclist around my age often say hello when they pass, I am not good at flirting though.

It was only yesterday GD11 asked me to jump on the trampoline with her. I haven't jumped on a trampoline for a few years but was surprised at how this time it was easy to get into jumping again. It wasn't long before I was jumping up high (for me) and running around on it. I had to get my GD to sit while I jumped though, my balance isn't what it used to be. grin