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As I mentioned on another thread, I've just done a speed awareness course. Everyone assured me it would be fine, interesting and informative etc., and they were right.
But.....I was the oldest one there by quite a long chalk. We sat at round tables and there were six men and one very glamorous young women on mine. We introduced ourselves but nobody actually spoke to me. When we took part in group discussions, the men barged in first with their opinions then turned to Miss Fancy Pants and asked, 'What do you think?' 
I just left them to it. It wasn't a competition or a test so there was nothing for me to gain by joining in. I'd had an early start, they didn't even give you a complimentary coffee so I couldn't be arsedbothered to comment apart from the moment when one of the men demonstrated the hand clap he likes to do when annoyed by another driver. I pointed out he would have to take both hands off the wheel to do that!
His withering glance confirmed he thought I was just some old duck who shouldn't even be on the road.
He was happy to boast it was his third course though. He looked about thirty!!

All you need now is a Sid Spanner (preferably a plumber)
It's a course. It's voluntary and cost just under £100 so I don't think a cup of coffee is asking too much when you have to drive through rush hour traffic for nearly an hour to be there for 7.45am.
Newatthis, you're assuming I was annoyed. I wasn't!
BTW. Miss Fancy Pants volunteered to write down the answers in a group activity where we had to spot potential hazards. She was a good speed writer and our table won the task by 10points. When the man running the course praised our observation skills, Mr. Clever Dick said it was all because we had the best scribe. For a minute I thought being so ancient, I'd stumbled into an episode of 'Up Pompeii.'
Miss Fancy Pant's reply was, 'Wassa scribe?' 
I did the Speed Awareness Course on a voluntary basis when I lived in Somerset. This was encouraged by the Police as a way of brushing up on our driving awareness, no cost involved, no free tea/coffee. There were only 4 of us who had requested to do the course bothered to turn up. I found it informative & it reinforced one or two things I'd forgotten about in 40+ years of driving. I have always held a clean licence & still drive 100s of miles often long journeys. Lady running the course said that under 25s are the worst as they see anything wrong with mobile use whilst driving even when faced with evidence from fatal accidents which are very graphic.
The men sound like the sort who aren't going to listen to any woman's comments or opinions. Life is full of those, I find. But hey, it was only half a day. Maybe another time, if you've got something to say, just chuck it in there, come out with it. Don't wait to be asked.
@Bbbface - “You have to pay for the course, which typically costs around £100”
Bbbface
they didn't even give you a complimentary coffee
Excuse me? Presumably you were made to do this course because you’d been caught speeding? And you expect free tea and coffee?!
Actually my DH did one he got complimentary coffee and biscuits.
It’s not supposed to be a punishment, it’s informative, to make you reflect on it and think when your in the road. He said it was actually very good and if ever he’s tempted to speed (he drives all day) it flashes through his mind and makes him mindful of possible consequences of gaining a minute or two, so job done.
Lona
Once you've accepted that nobody's interested in you anymore, it's quite liberating
This with bells on! I actually love it!
Miss Fancy Pants ...mmmm. Who were you ost annoyed with - the men who ignored you or the girl for being glamorous.
The dragon shirt www.miaprintspro.com/dragon-oldlady2-mistake-hhh-tl…
*they didn't even give you a complimentary coffee*
Excuse me? Presumably you were made to do this course because you’d been caught speeding? And you expect free tea and coffee?!
I was invisible two days ago, not with younger people but my DH and his friend and friends wife, talking about something terribly important obviously, buying and selling property! I was discovered later thankfully.
Oh, I am liking the t shirt!
Merlotgran. Yes me too.
We can all learn but there are always those I would prefer to let have their' moments'
So sit back as at some stage you may be sure one of them will surely on opening their mouth not only look a fool as well as proving it.
I share your annoyance. I went on a cookery course and was completely ignored by the other participants. I knew I’d lost a bit of weight, but invisible! When we broke for lunch we were seated at a long table, I sat down first and the other 5 folk seated themselves at the far end. When the tutor arrived, she sat next to me and we chatted throughout, I wish I could have photographed their faces!
I also enjoy the company of younger people but when faced with a room full of male egos I prefer to hold back and let them get on with it.
Doesn't mean I don't have a voice or an opinion, I'm just reluctant to waste either of them.
Same as Monica, I don't feel invisible with younger people and they certainly wouldn't have ignored me at a meeting. In fact I enjoy the company of younger people .
I wonder if it were true that it was his third course? You can only do one every three years but I wonder if that’s too generous anyway?
Maybe you didn’t really want to be there
I can think of much nicer things to spend £94 on 
I've done 2 speed courses & really enjoyed both. I really think they should be mandatory for everyone.
Both had mixed age groups & it was not only interesting but fun too. Lots of laughter & 2 cups of coffee & biscuits
I posted a thread about that T-shirt the other day and those that answered didn’t like round necks ? although they did like the message
I think it depends how much your input is whatever your age There are many old people who dominate conversations and as you said you couldn’t be bothered so basically you get out what you put in I haven’t noticed being ignored I did a brief art course the other month and was by far the oldest there but I didn’t find I was treated any differently I sat next to an 18 year old and we had a real giggle especially when I told her some of my adventures many years ago
I remember when I worked in an old people home once a very small white haired fairly quiet lady told me her life story which included running away to a circus and marrying the trapeze artist I d have never thought she had anything other than a very quiet life
Maybe you didn’t really want to be there
When my OH is annoyed at another driver, particularly those aggressive ones who toot and roar past with a glare, he blows them a kiss. It worries them no end!
That was bad luck Merlotgran. They aren't all like that.
Love the T shirt Brandybutter. Where can I get one?
Miss Fancy Pants 
He was happy to boast it was his third course though. He looked about thirty!!
The speed awareness courses are not very effective then.
Perhaps after two courses, a very hefty fine should be in order for a third offence - hurt his pocket and he may think twice about speeding again!
I quite like not being the focus of any attention now I’m older. It’s akin to being like the wallpaper.
I sit now with my back to any wall and people watching.
I had my turn in the sunshine. It’s for other, younger ones now! I enjoy watching and listening.
Ditto from me MOnica.
I recently attended an art course, was the eldest there. The younger people treated me no differently to anyone else. Neither have I felt excluded anywhere else.
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