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How sexism and ageism combine against women

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janeainsworth Mon 22-Jun-20 13:22:14

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and what to do about it

vampirequeen Mon 22-Jun-20 16:25:20

I don't think the pictures show a lack of respect for women. It's more of a lack of respect for age. We live in a society where no matter if you're male or female getting old is seen to be a bad thing. The experience, knowledge and understanding of the world that we've built up has no value. If you google images of men growing old they show the same sort of images. Young fit upright men and old men hunched over Zimmer frames.

AGAA4 Mon 22-Jun-20 16:35:50

I watched a detective thriller on tv last night that depicted ladies in their 70's as shuffling, cantankerous old bats.

I am well into my 70's. I don't shuffle - walk miles every day. I hope I am not cantankerous but may be an old bat.

justanovice Mon 07-Sep-20 13:32:56

Very well said. I agree with every word.

Esspee Mon 07-Sep-20 13:41:30

That 45+ guy looks really hot! Happy to trade him for my OH.

Yes I agree with you OP sexism and ageism are completely unacceptable and women suffer more than men. What to do about it? Well we certainly should challenge it every.single.time.

TwiceAsNice Mon 07-Sep-20 13:49:09

Never felt discriminated against in sexist or ageist way. Got two new jobs in my sixties still doing the one at 67 and feel valued for my experience and knowledge.

Septimia Mon 07-Sep-20 15:18:58

I bought a lot of things online for my FiL and that, together with general assumptions, mean that I get a lot of bumf about stairlifts, chairs that throw you out of them, incontinence pants etc. I need none of them yet, I know where and what to look for when I do, and the assumption that I do b****y annoys me.

I think we can make a difference simply by the way we behave. I know that many people have health problems that make mobility difficult, but my mum always paused when she stood up and put her shoulders back - it took years off her.

So standing as upright as we can, walking as firmly as we can and not shuffling or drooping any more than we can help should at least give the impression that we're fit and youthful. A lot of it is down to our own attitude as well as other people's.

M0nica Mon 07-Sep-20 17:36:31

I so agree with the contents of this essay.

TwiceAsNice I am glad your experience has been so good, but the fact that you have been fortunate does not mean that many more women have been much less fortunate. My own experience has been similar to yours but I know this is only because I come from a family where our shared genetic inheritance means we seem to age slowly and people consistently assume that I am considerably younger than I actually am and other family members have the same experience.

Eloethan Mon 07-Sep-20 20:17:05

Recently I read a letter - I think it was in The I - in which the writer reporter that when she was a health worker (some years ago) GP reports invariably referred to:

men "suffering" pain ..........

but

women "complaining of" pain ...........

I would hope training these days would prevent this sort of prejudicial language but there are still so many examples of language being used in a sexist/ageist way.

As always, there are people who say it's all a lot of fuss about nothing, but there is plenty of evidence to substantiate the claim that there are real differences in the way various categories of people are viewed and depicted - some to their obvious detriment.

Sparkling Sat 12-Sep-20 20:45:53

I am sorry but I don’t think we are treated worse than men. Worked all my life with men and women, in fact found that a lot of women could be unkind to other women, there’s good and bad with everyone.

Iam64 Sat 12-Sep-20 21:10:21

I agree that ageism and sexism conspire against women, certainly in those drawings

MOnica's response fits with my experience

Hithere Sat 12-Sep-20 21:26:33

Sadly, some of those behaviours are also performed by women to other women.

It is not gender related, it is society related.

M0nica Tue 15-Sep-20 20:05:01

The other interesting thing about those pictures, is that the younger women are drawn with an overt sexual attractiveness that the older women emphatically no longer have. When you think what the average woman in her 20s, 30s and 40s looks like, very few have that conscious attractiveness that these drawings display. These pictures are sexist in their portrayal of all age groups.

Hithere Tue 15-Sep-20 20:49:17

I think pictures of men are sexually oriented too

Anyway, those graphical representations are very unrealistic of ages and gender. What happened to all other body types we encounter in all phases of life?