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The Golden Years, what's your take?

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Spangler Wed 29-Jul-20 15:37:24

There's a crude poem about getting old, I won't print it all but if you want to see it just Google the last two lines:
"The Golden Years Have Come At Last.
The Golden Years Can Kiss My **!
When I was 19, I remember coming out of a dance venue as the heavens opened up. As luck would have it I saw a taxi with the "For Hire" sign lit up. I hailed the cab, and as it pulled over and I made a dash through the rain, a little old lady got in the way. We did one of those street dances, I went left, so did she. I went right, so did she. To my eternal shame I muttered: "Doddering old fogey." She heard me. A crooked arthritic index finger was raised. "You'll be old," she screeched. "Not as old as you," I replied and just laughed as I jumped into the taxi.

Down through the decades that voice has rattled around my head whenever some age related medical complaint has risen. And now I am old, or so the distance between my birth and now dictates.

How do I deal with it, much the same way as when I was young really. We struck lucky in that we bought a house in Hackney in East London when it was a district you only lived in because you either had to, as in a council house, or you couldn't afford to buy a property elsewhere. Then somehow Hackney became a hotspot, it became gentrified, desirable. When we sold up we made a tidy profit. Who would have thought?

Today, we enjoy a wonderful social life with a wide circle of friends, a great mix of generations and although we don't have any children, our Godchildren who have all grown up and whose weddings we attended have all produced their own children. It's like surrogate Grandchildren.

My wife and I have known each other for over 54 years, been married for 52 of them. Now retired, she indulges her life long passion of making her own clothes, and others, mostly mine, but recently she made a friend's wedding dress. She has a bespoke cabin that I treated her to, a collection of vintage sewing machines adorn the cabin walls and she has a couple of modern machines and an overlocker. She loses herself in her cabin.

My hobbies are the old vintage car that I have and a collection of records that go back to the pre-war swing era, I have a jukebox to play them on. My other hobby is work. I get some flak about that, but as my wife said, "If he's happy working, let him do it. There's not many who can say that they get paid for indulging in their hobby." I only work two shifts a week, job sharing with someone whose military pension left him with too much month at the end of his money.

We have been life long ballroom dancers and it was dancing that got us into the social circle that we so enjoy. The lockdown, or house arrest as I prefer to call it, has curtailed this year's events and that's how I managed to get on line. Never had the time nor the inclination previously. Well not exactly, I have lurked on this site for quite a long time. Reading about other's grandchildren and other facets of life is fascinating.

It's curious to me, I certainly don't want to live forever, on the other hand, I love life, not ready to pop off just yet. But this getting old malarky does have a few pitfalls, like the hip replacement that I had a while back. That, coupled with the house arrest, is going to make tripping the light fantastic something of a challenge when our release date comes. But in the meantime the everyday posts here keep me motivated.

grannyqueenie Fri 04-Dec-20 22:49:50

Haven’t looked at this thread before now and haven’t read it all. However logging in just now I spotted your last 2 comments puzzled, I’m one of these people who always reads a magazine from the back cover! Having done so I could not just “read and run”.
What a positive attitude to have in the face of the great sadness and loss that you have experienced. Thank you for sharing it now, as you especially remember your dear son at this time. May your cup continue to “run over” as you enjoy the life that you have and seek to reach out to others too. xx

Puzzled Fri 04-Dec-20 19:57:13

Although we are both in our 80s, we feel blessed to be so well.
We lost our son, 29 years ago, yesterday; but we have a wonderful daughter and two wonderful GC. S i L has different views on life from us, but mutual tolerance, and help, goes a long long way.
We could be in far worse situations.
We have enough on which to live and do the things that we want. Although not perfect, we have our health, and the strength to do a little to help others.
Count your blessings, there are always others who are far worse off than you in some way. Try to do something to ease their burden, even if only by listening.
Recently, some said "It doesn't matter if your glass is half full, or half empty. As long as you have enough glasses"
As Tom Moore says, "Tomorrow will be a good day"

Puzzled Tue 29-Sep-20 10:50:56

We are blessed in so many ways.
With reasonably good health (DW has to take medication for cholesterol, atrial fibrillation, osteoporosis) we have enough money to live on, and a roof over our heads.
By some standards we may not be seen as rich, but there lots of others less fortunate than ourselves in many ways.

Under normal circumstances we would be involved in four or five outside activities.
We have been married for nearly 57 years, (Our combined ages total 162) and we are mentally and physically active.
We enjoy each others company.
All has not gone smoothly. Our son died 30 years ago, but D and S i L have two lovely children, both now at uni.
We have both been made redundant (3 or 4 times between us) but we have survived.
So, these have to be Golden Years. Our needs are met, and we are happy together.
What more could we ask? (In my case, only for more patience and tolerance!)

kittylester Mon 03-Aug-20 08:28:45

MawB

^Some of the members here have sent me some encouraging pm's. One lady wrote of you^:
"^She was a head of department in a grammar school." The rest of the message was quite complimentary, but you wouldn't expect a gentleman to divulge, would you? Old school, remember^

Well I wouldn’t expect a gentleman to divulge any thing from a PM

Your post contains more than 1 error of fact.

Slightly baffled by why the bit of the pm you quote is not complimentary either. Even assuming it is true.

MawB Mon 03-Aug-20 06:49:26

^Some of the members here have sent me some encouraging pm's. One lady wrote of you^:
"^She was a head of department in a grammar school." The rest of the message was quite complimentary, but you wouldn't expect a gentleman to divulge, would you? Old school, remember^

Well I wouldn’t expect a gentleman to divulge any thing from a PM

Your post contains more than 1 error of fact.

MawB Mon 03-Aug-20 06:46:49

MawB Sun 02-Aug-20 19:10:14
Why do you ask?

You still haven’t said why you asked me?

Spangler Mon 03-Aug-20 05:46:33

kittylester Sun 02-Aug-20 17:25:18
I spotted that your prostate was prostrate!!

There's something amusing about that error.

MawB Sun 02-Aug-20 19:10:14
Of course. But I knew it was a typo/predictive text thing, so I didn’t comment.

Spot on, my spellchecker thinks that it can spell better than me.

MawB Sun 02-Aug-20 19:10:14
Why do you ask?

Some of the members here have sent me some encouraging pm's. One lady wrote of you:
"She was a head of department in a grammar school." The rest of the message was quite complimentary, but you wouldn't expect a gentleman to divulge, would you? Old school, remember.

The English teacher at my grammar school sowed the seeds of a love of The Bard when he took the class to an afternoon performance of: "The Merchant of Venice." At the end, after the audience had left, my fellow classmates and I were invited to fill up the front two rows. The actors then came back on stage, still in character, and we had about forty minutes of questions and answers. It was the best English class that I ever attended.

MawB Sun 02-Aug-20 19:10:14

Spangler

MawB

Actually Spangler I too am old school

Post script: The spellchecker is having heebie jeebies over the spelling of rooves. It's roofs. No it's not, I'm old school and the plural of roof is rooves

And it’s roofs - not like hoof/hooves.
That’s OK. Don’t mention it.

MawB, did you see miss my spelling faux pas? Prostate acquired an additional letter, 'r,' making it prostrate. Or have I got away with it?

Is my Oxford English Dictionary redundant because It has a few spelling mistakes in it? It shows the spelling of the plural of roof as rooves, no doubt if I check I might find a few others too.

Of course. But I knew it was a typo/predictive text thing, so I didn’t comment.

Why do you ask?

As for your OED, mine says roofs disp (=disputed use) rooves

kittylester Sun 02-Aug-20 17:25:18

I spotted that your prostate was prostrate!!

Spangler Sun 02-Aug-20 16:47:22

MawB

Actually Spangler I too am old school

Post script: The spellchecker is having heebie jeebies over the spelling of rooves. It's roofs. No it's not, I'm old school and the plural of roof is rooves

And it’s roofs - not like hoof/hooves.
That’s OK. Don’t mention it.

MawB, did you see miss my spelling faux pas? Prostate acquired an additional letter, 'r,' making it prostrate. Or have I got away with it?

Is my Oxford English Dictionary redundant because It has a few spelling mistakes in it? It shows the spelling of the plural of roof as rooves, no doubt if I check I might find a few others too.

lemongrove Sun 02-Aug-20 16:09:09

Isn’t there a Bowie song of this name ( Golden Years) or did I imagine it??

annep1 Sun 02-Aug-20 15:03:56

Sorry folks. I tend to make posts as brief as possible but I think
I overdid it grin
Spangler I haven't a clue what you're talking about re Gy but it sounds fascinating. ?

kittylester Sun 02-Aug-20 15:02:43

One of the best parts of my Golden Years is my volunteering. I love spending time with DH (my soulmate) seeing my children, grandchildren, wider family and my friends but my volunteering work is also a huge part of my time now and I have sorely missed it since lockdown. We are getting going again via the dreaded Zoom, which is something, but it isn't the way my role works best.

DH volunteers too - sadly his work isn't back to normal yet but it gives us a purpose which isn't pure self indulgence.

Puzzler61 Sun 02-Aug-20 14:40:49

It’s a wonderful sentiment Urmston and all the “richer” if you’ve gone through poor, poorly or tough times together (as most people - me included - who have been in a long relationship).
Cheers ! ?

Urmstongran Sun 02-Aug-20 14:31:02

Whenever Himself & I chink glasses we always say (since retirement) ‘life’s good’!
??

Puzzler61 Sun 02-Aug-20 14:22:54

Spangler your life sounds lovely and as if it is suiting you right to the ground ?

Puzzler61 Sun 02-Aug-20 14:22:05

Unequivocally Now! More than once a week we say to each how fortunate we are.
We lost a house, for bad business reasons (our own), we lost a baby (not down to us, it wasn’t meant to be at that time), but we have come through, had 2 children we are proud of and we have each other and good health for our age.

DH can play his beloved Golf 3 times a week, and I can see family and friends whenever I want as they all live near.

That is a good life, these are our Golden Years.

lemongrove Sun 02-Aug-20 14:13:48

My golden years were the ones when the children were young
And DH and I were in our 30’s.We had a wide circle of friends, not many cares, our health and vitality and it was a wonderful time.
Not that it’s all that bad now, but those were the true golden years for me.

lemongrove Sun 02-Aug-20 14:10:09

Every dog has it’s day!?

Spangler Sun 02-Aug-20 14:01:54

Orangerose

Oo how clever Spangler. I think the poster means GY= Golden Years

Golden Years, of course. When you hear the phrase “the golden years,” there’s no mistaking the topic. We are talking about retirement. A time of relaxation and leisure. The crowning achievement of a lifetime of hard work. A time to travel, play golf, take up a hobby, and make time for the grandchildren. A time for anything but work.

This concept of retirement as an endless holiday, however, isn’t even as old as today’s retirees. The actual phrase “The Golden Years” was coined in 1959 in an advertising campaign for America’s first large-scale retirement community. It was a gamble to see whether the fifty-fives and over would embrace an active new way of life, move away from their families, and buy one of the modest homes on a $2 million golf-resort development in the middle of the Arizona desert.

The campaign was a success. On the first weekend, 100,000 people showed up to see for themselves if a lifestyle free from responsibility and the constraints of working life could actually be possible. For many seniors in the 1950s, retirement was a lonely time of decline. They had the financial support of the State pension and some had a second pension, but once they left the workforce, they had little purpose in their lives. Retirees saw themselves as “too old to work, too young to die.” No wonder The Golden Years concept was successful, the idea of retirement was being sold as a second childhood!

Is being in my seventies my golden years? Well, I have no children, so no grandchildren, I work, socialise and enjoy a lasting relationship, all of which I enjoy. I have no financial difficulties and I live in a house that, fifty years ago, would have been a, flight of fancy. So that's my golden years.

MerylStreep Sun 02-Aug-20 13:35:17

annep1
I hope your not referring to me, those are my initials ?

Orangerose Sun 02-Aug-20 13:27:51

Oo how clever Spangler. I think the poster means GY= Golden Years

Spangler Sun 02-Aug-20 13:21:26

GY? The only GY acronym that I know is the Grey symbol, Gy? The one that is a derived unit of ionizing radiation dose in the International System of Units? It is defined as the absorption of one joule of radiation energy per kilogram of matter.

How sad am I?

annep1 Sun 02-Aug-20 09:44:46

Nanna2 what is your take on the GY? ?

Spangler Sun 02-Aug-20 00:18:19

annep1 Sat 01-Aug-20 23:24:07
Spangler
Sorry maybe I'm a bit slow but I don't get the point you're making with the story about the poor little old lady and the voice rattling in your head.

It's not you that's slow, it's me that's left too much out. Re-reading my post I can see why.

At 19, I'm never going to be old. At 19 I was very rude to a senior citizen, it wasn't the way that I was brought up. The lady's reprimand came back to haunt me whenever an age related ache or pain came along.

Shame on me for being so disrespectful. Even today, knowing, and denying, that a knee joint replacement is on the horizon, I still hear: "You'll be old!" Only now there's a prefix, "I told you that you'll be old."