So Roger Daltrey reckons old people have caused the NHS crisis?

If a thread is worth resurrecting, then why not? Different people come along with new things to say, as time passes and things happen.

It was The Who …was it not? who sang the lyrics - 🎶 “hope I die before I get old” 🎶 ..My Generation.

Another resurrected old thread...

Elegran

Could it be that half the salary bill is for executives, although there are many times the number of people working at the coal-face (bedface?) or in reception, communications etc than there are executives?

I don't know enough about the staffing and payment differentials in the NHS to claim that that is so, but if the TOTAL pay bill is 49% of what it costs, then payments to one section of the workforce can't be 50%.

Yes we can do arithmetic can't we.

I cost the NHS far more in my early years than I do now. Born with a faulty heart, Whooping cough, scarlet fever, Bronchial pneumonia, Yellow jaundice, tonsil removal, all in my first few years then in my 30s, lost pregnacies requiring D&Cs, two children by caesarian section, each followed by additional hospital stays for post-partum problems then into my 40s it was meds for high cholesterol and depression plus dental work and glasses while on benefits for a couple of years. Now I am nearly 77. I did need my cataracts fixing over the past 10 years and my sight is still monitored plus I have a puffer for lung problems. In 2015 I needed treatment for Sepsis. But my financial situation is good and I pay for my own glasses and teeth. It was about 5 years before I discovered that my Doctor had emigrated 2 years previously, as I had not needed her services during that 5 years. I do, of course, take advantage of recommended vaccinations. In addition, I pay tax on a private pension, some of which probably goes to the NHS.

Could it be that half the salary bill is for executives, although there are many times the number of people working at the coal-face (bedface?) or in reception, communications etc than there are executives?

I don't know enough about the staffing and payment differentials in the NHS to claim that that is so, but if the TOTAL pay bill is 49% of what it costs, then payments to one section of the workforce can't be 50%.

Granmarderby10

Why are people surprised about the salaries. Do they think that NHS staff should work for free? Or for a pittance.

So called bed blockers are the cause of much “inefficiency” … yes!

But it hasn’t got the teeth gnashing, headlining impact that “executive pay” has.

Probably because it is a problem that will only be solved with more people wanting to be carers, much better pay, much better training etc etc. any one up for that?

It can't possibly be true that executive pay is 50% of NHS funding if 49% is salaries so someone isn't telling the truth. Personally I feel it is highly unlikely that the 50% figure for executive salaries is right but if it is id like to see where the figure comes from.

Is it half term, lots of old threads popping up.

Why are people surprised about the salaries. Do they think that NHS staff should work for free? Or for a pittance.

So called bed blockers are the cause of much “inefficiency” … yes!

But it hasn’t got the teeth gnashing, headlining impact that “executive pay” has.

Probably because it is a problem that will only be solved with more people wanting to be carers, much better pay, much better training etc etc. any one up for that?

I just did a quick Google and it said 49% is spent on salaries presumably that includes executives salaries.

Bridie22

I think your comment Mae is slightly out of context, he also critizes the fact that 50% of nhs funding pays for executive wages, and that the system is broken.
Roger has been the teenager charity figurehead for many years after his sister died at 32.

Do you have a link for the 50%. I think that is hard to figure out. If you think of all the doctors, dentists, HCAs, radiographers etc that are paid, all the drugs prescribed, maintenance of buildings, consumables like gloves aprons scrubs cleaning equipment etc it seems hard to believe so a link would be good.

Anglesey59

In my area youths are knocking on doors demanding us to perish quicker so we can cough up the money for vape pens and coffee

Hope you keep your water pistol at the ready?😁

NonGrannyMoll

There are many causes of the NHS's current plight. At the forefront are drunks and druggies who clog up the services by putting substances into their bodies that they don't even enjoy. Once Daltrey gets older, he'll be infirm enough to know that we don't get sick any more intentionally than he does!

Roger Daltry stated this over a year ago.p, see date of OP.
One of the biggest problems in the NHS now is not as you state, drug users of any form, but the absence of care provision.
Lack of care provision means 1 in 7 beds is occupied by someone medically fit, but unable to be discharged into a safe environment.
That was 13,767 beds in England as of 21/2/2025. Figures from Care England

Once Daltrey gets older, he'll be infirm enough to know that we don't get sick any more intentionally than he does!

☹️I think he's already at least 80, considerably older than many grans on GN. But yes, if he does get ill he can probably afford to go private.

He’s already 80, but I suppose he’ll have private health care anyway.

If we did cause any problems for the NHS, we did it because we are old so our bodies are wearing out and we visit our doctors more often. That is what the NHS is for.

How dare we need medical attention! So selfish of us not to lie down and die as soon as our children leave home.

There are many causes of the NHS's current plight. At the forefront are drunks and druggies who clog up the services by putting substances into their bodies that they don't even enjoy. Once Daltrey gets older, he'll be infirm enough to know that we don't get sick any more intentionally than he does!

Labradora

M0nica

Most people, old and young working and retired, generally use the NHS very little when they are young and healthy and pay in far more to the NHS than they get out.

Old people are young people who have continued living until they are old, a fact that seems to elude many people in their youth, So most of us, having paid in to the NHS for 30,40,50 years without using the NHS very much, think it quite reasonable that when we get old and nead medical care, we should be able to get all the care we need, which we have already paid for up front.

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Except we havn’t paid enough up front for the cost of maintaining us all now, even with current workers paying into the pot it still isn’t enough.

M0nica

Most people, old and young working and retired, generally use the NHS very little when they are young and healthy and pay in far more to the NHS than they get out.

Old people are young people who have continued living until they are old, a fact that seems to elude many people in their youth, So most of us, having paid in to the NHS for 30,40,50 years without using the NHS very much, think it quite reasonable that when we get old and nead medical care, we should be able to get all the care we need, which we have already paid for up front.

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Allsorts

I dont know what he said as didn't see the article, but things do get taken out of context. I think NHS like a lot of organisations are too top heavy with equally large wage bills. I do think money has been spent unwisely and wasted such as people coming from abroad and getting free treatment. People should be charged for missed appointments unless its energency.

There is no doubt I have used the NHS more in the last 10 yrs than the previous 60yrs put together so Daltrey is correct. The cost of keeping us alive and voting is very high.

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I dont know what he said as didn't see the article, but things do get taken out of context. I think NHS like a lot of organisations are too top heavy with equally large wage bills. I do think money has been spent unwisely and wasted such as people coming from abroad and getting free treatment. People should be charged for missed appointments unless its energency.

In my area youths are knocking on doors demanding us to perish quicker so we can cough up the money for vape pens and coffee

mae13

Only a rich pop singer, who can afford as much private health care as they wish, could pontificate like this.
I'm thoroughly fed-up with the universal view, that has been actively promoted in recent years, that oldies like me are to blame for EVERYTHING in this country going down the toilet just because we exist.
Maybe if I was a millionaire Tory supporting pop star I might think differently.......

Good click bait for an OP.
Don’t let the truth get in the way of good story.
Why didn’t you put in the post that he includes himself in that statement? It wouldn’t have been such a good headline grabber, would it?