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Pensioners’ paradise!

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Mollygo Thu 12-Mar-26 14:19:34

Carole Bromley
Welcome to Retirement… the So-Called “Pensioners’ Paradise.”

Paradise… Apparently Meaning Higher Taxes, Higher Bills, and the Heating Turned Off.
Imagine paying taxes for 50 years… and still being asked for more.
Work your entire life.
Pay income tax, National Insurance, council tax, VAT, fuel duty, tax on savings, tax on your home, and a whole list of other taxes that appear every time someone in Whitehall needs the books balancing.
Basically… tax on life.
For decades those taxes propped up the system.
They built the roads.
Funded the NHS.
Paid for schools.
Kept public services running.
Generation after generation worked hard, paid in, and believed one simple thing:
That when they finally reached retirement, the system they had supported all their lives would support them too.

Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence.

Fast forward to today.
Apparently pensioners are now the country’s emergency cash machine.
Need money?
Just squeeze the people who have already spent half a century paying for everything.
And just in case pensioners thought retirement might finally bring a little breathing space…

The retirement age keeps creeping up.
Because after 40 or 50 years of work, the solution apparently isn’t relief — it’s simply work longer.

Another few years working.
Another few years paying tax.
Another few more miles on the body.

You could almost call it another tax on the body itself.
And just in case pensioners thought their homes were finally their sanctuary after decades of mortgage payments…
Along came things like the bedroom tax.

Yes, apparently after a lifetime of working and there was a time paying, if you dare to have a spare room pensioner or not it woukd be taxed!
look at perhaps the room your children grew up in, or somewhere the grandchildren might stay — the system might decide you’re living in too much space and should pay for the privilege.
Because clearly the greatest threat to the nation’s finances is a pensioner with an empty bedroom. Of course that will resolve the housing problem we Brits face. But at what and who's cost?

Meanwhile, those at the top never seem shy about helping themselves.

Taxpayers cover:
• Expenses
• Housing
• Office refurbishments
• Car allowances
• Travel perks
• Food allowances
• Private healthcare
• Clothing
• Glasses
• Entertainment
• Even second homes — when many people can’t afford one

Funny how there always seems to be plenty of money for that.
But for pensioners?
Many are choosing between heating or eating.

Care homes now cost more than many people’s entire pensions, meaning families often watch everything their parents worked for disappear just to cover the bills.

And if that isn’t enough…
You even have to pay a licence just to watch the television.
For many elderly people living alone, the TV isn’t a luxury.
It’s their company.
It’s the voices they hear each day.
It’s the small connection to the outside world when the house is quiet.
Yet even that comes with a bill.

And heaven forbid you end up in hospital.
You might finally recover… but when it’s time to go home there’s often little or no aftercare waiting for you.

Sometimes you’re discharged with barely enough support.
Other times people end up stuck in hospital beds because the help they need at home simply isn’t there.

Either way, the system pensioners spent decades funding suddenly feels very thin on support when they need it most.

And just when you think the tax story might finally end…
Along comes inheritance tax, making sure that even after a lifetime of paying into the system, the taxman still gets one final bite when you’re gone.

For decades pensioners propped up the system with their taxes.

But now when they need that system to prop them up… there’s nobody there.
And after a lifetime of doing the right thing, paying their dues, and trusting the system they helped build…

It can feel as though the very system they supported has simply reached in and ripped the heart out of them by demanding even more.

England - the land of hope and glory, or better known as Land of Strain and Struggle.
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Do you think pensioners have already paid enough tax in their lifetime?

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SueDoku Fri 13-Mar-26 13:55:53

Madgran77

Tax is based on income. My income means that I pay tax and so I should.

I believe that I paid/pay into a system to provide a society and social system that we want, not necessarily to benefit myself personally but for the good of all. Ofcourse I have benefited from eg education; Libraries; NHS; rubbish collection; road maintenance ...well the list goes on for ever.

This is so true..! The tone of the OP is simply a rant - some of which will apply to pretty well everyone, but a lot of which will not..! 😮 You have to look at both sides of the balance sheet - and my generation (baby boomers) have benefitted from peace, education, free health care, job security and much, much more...! I'm not saying that everything is ideal - but compared to what today's teenagers can look forward to, we truly are the lucky generation..!

butterandjam Fri 13-Mar-26 11:11:36

Youngerthanspringtime

That is all so so true!
I refused to have a TV licence as a protest - I'm not 'entitled' to a free one. So' some official came to my house while I was out to check if I was too doddery to know the whys and wherefores of non possession of said document. A note was put through the letterbox threatening hell and damnation and a promise to try and catch me another time.
I had checked everything out so fully aware of what was "allowed". Its over a year now and I've found loads to watch at a time when I want to watch it.
Now I've heard a rumour that the powers that be are thinking of charging for people using streaming services. There's nothing like a killjoy that wants to put you in jail for the last few years of your honest life.

No, it isn't "all so true". It's full of lies

butterandjam Fri 13-Mar-26 11:09:14

BoggledMind

OldFrill

"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

There may be some truth in the driving licence comment.

Eye tests are indeed free for over 60s but that's limited to one eye test every two years (the recommended time for tests). If a licence renewal is due within two years of a free eye test, then the licence renewal test will have to be paid for.

I speak from experience here. I had a free eye test a couple of years ago. I went to book an eye test two years later but was told it would cost me as the free one wasn't due for another month. I went back a month later and had a free one.

In Scotland, NHS-funded eye examinations are free for all residents, usually recommended every two years (or annually for children/over-60s).

DH (79) gets a free NHS Scotland annual eye test every year at his regular optician who supplies his glasses.

In ADDITION to his annual test, the |DVLA requires an technical- designated eye test every three years. The specific DVLA eye exam must be done at a DVLA designated branch of Specsavers because they don't accept any other .

He's not charged for DVLA eye exams, possibly because of his eye condition (glaucoma).

BoggledMind Fri 13-Mar-26 10:07:51

OldFrill

^"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"^

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

There may be some truth in the driving licence comment.

Eye tests are indeed free for over 60s but that's limited to one eye test every two years (the recommended time for tests). If a licence renewal is due within two years of a free eye test, then the licence renewal test will have to be paid for.

I speak from experience here. I had a free eye test a couple of years ago. I went to book an eye test two years later but was told it would cost me as the free one wasn't due for another month. I went back a month later and had a free one.

Basgetti Fri 13-Mar-26 10:01:18

Luckygirl3

I don't feel inclined to grumble about my financial lot. I am not well-off, but have a home (mortgage paid off) and enough to live on. I do not want for anything. I can eat and pay my bills and theatre/concert trips etc.

I am happy to pay tax so that pensioners less comfortably off can get their pension credit etc.

Seems a massive waste of one's last few years on this earth to be grumbling about every possible thing when we are better off than many pensioners from decades ago.

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Basgetti Fri 13-Mar-26 10:00:45

Madgran77

Tax is based on income. My income means that I pay tax and so I should.

I believe that I paid/pay into a system to provide a society and social system that we want, not necessarily to benefit myself personally but for the good of all. Ofcourse I have benefited from eg education; Libraries; NHS; rubbish collection; road maintenance ...well the list goes on for ever.

Hear, hear. Working people today pay just as much, if not more.
It’s part and parcel of being a member of society.

Luckygirl3 Fri 13-Mar-26 09:44:27

I don't feel inclined to grumble about my financial lot. I am not well-off, but have a home (mortgage paid off) and enough to live on. I do not want for anything. I can eat and pay my bills and theatre/concert trips etc.

I am happy to pay tax so that pensioners less comfortably off can get their pension credit etc.

Seems a massive waste of one's last few years on this earth to be grumbling about every possible thing when we are better off than many pensioners from decades ago.

RosiesMawagain Fri 13-Mar-26 09:38:43

M0nica

What a dreadful thread. Compare the lot of pensoners now with that of pensioner of previous generations. No pension credit or its predecessors. No help with rent or rates, or insulation grants. many more pensioners than now died from neglect aka starved to death or froze to death because they could not afford food or heat. No proper care homes, just geriatric wards, living your life out in a bed in a room with 20 other people and no possessions.

If my income is enough for me to pay extra tax. then that is fine by me. It means I have the income.

look around you today the vast majority of older people are living longer, more healthily and even at state peension level, far better than any other old generation before them.

Life aint perfect, but for all of us it is a darn site better than it was for our contemporaries 50 years ago.

Until 1948 dependent on charities for health care

I think it was the post that was dreadful. The thread has (fortunately) shown that we are not all a load of moaning minnies, but show a healthy dollop of common sense and good humour .
Ms Bromley does herself and older people no favours by being grumpy AND ill-informed.

Doodledog Fri 13-Mar-26 09:29:01

Chocolatelovinggran

It's been a pleasure to read these comments. Thank you, everyone, for confirming my belief that most of us older folk can, and, do, see clearly, and do not view everything through the bitter, distorted lens of Ms Bromley, whoever she might be

Agreed, CLG. It's depressing to see so much negativity online. It's very clearly anti-Labour propaganda, but often the posts are followed by numerous posts from people who obviously believe what they read, either joining in the rant or very scared that the lies in them are true and will apply to them. Then they get passed on as though they are true, and the anger spirals.

As you say, it is great to see it nipped in the bud on here.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 13-Mar-26 09:07:36

It's been a pleasure to read these comments. Thank you, everyone, for confirming my belief that most of us older folk can, and, do, see clearly, and do not view everything through the bitter, distorted lens of Ms Bromley, whoever she might be

OldFrill Thu 12-Mar-26 23:48:13

Mollygo

OldFrill

"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

I don’t know if it’s that one or the well loved poet.

It's posted by Carole Bromley, a psychic, on her Facebook page. Over 2000 comments. Carole Bromley, the poet, is an entirely different person and this doesn't seem to have anything to do with her.

A lot of the content is incorrect, as has been pointed out.

butterandjam Thu 12-Mar-26 22:14:29

Carole Bromley's rant is full of errors and mistakes. She clearly knows next to nothing about UK taxation, state pensions, or their history.

When universal state pensions began in 1948, the qualifying age for men was 65. Average life expectancy (for men) was 67.

The weekly payment ( single person) was £1.30 per week.

Right now, a single man qualifies for SP at age 66, the full SP is £240 per week and his life expectancy is 85. (0NS calculator) IOW Mr Average might draw a £quarter million in SP.

Small wonder pension ages, and taxes, are rising.

Mollygo Thu 12-Mar-26 20:55:00

OldFrill

^"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"^

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

I don’t know if it’s that one or the well loved poet.

M0nica Thu 12-Mar-26 20:29:56

What a dreadful thread. Compare the lot of pensoners now with that of pensioner of previous generations. No pension credit or its predecessors. No help with rent or rates, or insulation grants. many more pensioners than now died from neglect aka starved to death or froze to death because they could not afford food or heat. No proper care homes, just geriatric wards, living your life out in a bed in a room with 20 other people and no possessions.

If my income is enough for me to pay extra tax. then that is fine by me. It means I have the income.

look around you today the vast majority of older people are living longer, more healthily and even at state peension level, far better than any other old generation before them.

Life aint perfect, but for all of us it is a darn site better than it was for our contemporaries 50 years ago.

Until 1948 dependent on charities for health care

Allira Thu 12-Mar-26 20:23:10

OldFrill

^"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"^

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

She is, apparently, well-loved

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Ladyleftfieldlover Thu 12-Mar-26 19:30:57

I bet this Bromley person is a Daily Mail reader. Honestly, I can’t be a***d to list everything she’s wrong about!

OldFrill Thu 12-Mar-26 19:24:32

"Lets not forget how incompetent us pensioners are god forbid we should reach 70. We will be expected to pay for a compulsory eye test to allow us to continue driving-another tax for us to keep hold of our licence"

Eye tests are free for over 60s.

Is this written by Carole Bromley the psychic, "anything for attention - truth or not".

keepcalmandcavachon Thu 12-Mar-26 19:22:17

Well said Chocolatelovinggran, we are probably more likely to use the NHS more as we age too. The cost for all the treatments, drugs and surgery is no doubt staggering.
Also, every time I watch the news I realise that I am very much living in Paradise and am very thankful to call this country home.

Madgran77 Thu 12-Mar-26 19:20:43

Tax is based on income. My income means that I pay tax and so I should.

I believe that I paid/pay into a system to provide a society and social system that we want, not necessarily to benefit myself personally but for the good of all. Ofcourse I have benefited from eg education; Libraries; NHS; rubbish collection; road maintenance ...well the list goes on for ever.

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 12-Mar-26 18:27:12

I'm with you, avitor: everyone who has an income above a certain level pays tax, so those of us older people who fall into this group do the same...why should we be treated differently?

avitorl Thu 12-Mar-26 16:11:44

We are still living,using public services,especially NHS so I think if we have enough income to pay tax we need to support those services.

Cabbie21 Thu 12-Mar-26 14:57:27

Likewise, if all pensioners are as poor as it makes out, their estates wont be liable for Inheritance Tax.

Scribbles Thu 12-Mar-26 14:54:44

*... and just in case pensioners thought their homes were finally their sanctuary after decades of mortgage payments…
Along came things like the bedroom tax.

Yes, apparently after a lifetime of working and there was a time paying, if you dare to have a spare room pensioner or not it woukd be taxed!*

Utter nonsense. If you buy your own home, you may have as many rooms as you wish and can afford. Your council tax may be in a higher band than that of a studio apartment but there is no "bedroom tax".

"Bedroom tax" was a derogatory term used to refer to the policy of reducing the amount of housing benefit paid to renters in homes deemed bigger than strictly necessary for the size of their households.

Does the writer of the above diatribe imagine that everyone above a certain age should be able to live tax free? I've no idea who CaroleBromley is but she needs to realise that we're all of us being "taxed until the pups squeak" as a former Chancellor once expressed it and it has absolutely nothing to do with ageism!

Doodledog Thu 12-Mar-26 14:42:16

I thought pensioners were exempt from bedroom tax? It only applies to working age people in social housing who claim benefits.

I don't approve of the bedroom tax, but the trouble with these 'round robin' social media posts is that they create unnecessary fear and discontent. Nobody over pension age is going to have to give up their grandchild's bedroom, even if they are living in social housing with the taxpayer paying their rent, which is ironic, given the tone of the rant.

Youngerthanspringtime Thu 12-Mar-26 14:40:23

That is all so so true!
I refused to have a TV licence as a protest - I'm not 'entitled' to a free one. So' some official came to my house while I was out to check if I was too doddery to know the whys and wherefores of non possession of said document. A note was put through the letterbox threatening hell and damnation and a promise to try and catch me another time.
I had checked everything out so fully aware of what was "allowed". Its over a year now and I've found loads to watch at a time when I want to watch it.
Now I've heard a rumour that the powers that be are thinking of charging for people using streaming services. There's nothing like a killjoy that wants to put you in jail for the last few years of your honest life.