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One year old mincemeat

(19 Posts)
yogagran Thu 22-Dec-11 21:47:37

Better wasted than sick chocolatepud, just don't let the friend who gave you the jar know that you didn't get round to using it!

chocolatepudding Thu 22-Dec-11 21:39:29

Thank you all for your kind words. Just for the record I decided to throw the mincemeat away and buy fresh. I hate wasting food!

jingl Thu 22-Dec-11 08:37:01

I would be more worried about mould than about fermentation. I used to scrape mould off the top of jam but not anymore since I learned that mould spores can go deep down into the jam, and some mould is very harmful!

JessM Thu 22-Dec-11 07:27:05

Yup i have been known to scoop a little mould colony off some home made jam
Cheese made to be mouldy
I can't think of any illnesses caused by mould can you folks?
Also mould is a surfacy thing whereas fermentation or a "bad smell" implies stuff going on beneath the surface... (cue the theme from Jaws)

yogagran Wed 21-Dec-11 22:39:34

I agree with everyone about the bubbling - I normally completely disregard use-by dates, scrape the mould off the top of the jam and cheese. I go by the smell of food but once it's started to ferment even I think that's a step too far

greenmossgiel Wed 21-Dec-11 12:11:39

Yes, 'bubbling' in anything and a 'domed' lid on yoghurts etc would mean a definite 'no-no', for sure! confused

gracesmum Wed 21-Dec-11 11:52:45

I wouldn't risk it and I am normally the first to advocate ignoring sell-by date usually with impunity, but as we get older we should be careful.
I also agree it is the bubbling that seems to be "nature's way" of saying DON'T TOUCH.shock

JessM Wed 21-Dec-11 11:17:45

yes but yrs not going off! I agree that if preserve looks and smells ok (and has been kept in fridge) it can keep for ever... but that is another matter.
If it ferments then bugs have been breeding and it was probably not sterile in the first place. Or they have got in.
Jam, because it is so hot and if covered quickly once poured into clean pots will last a long time without fermenting. The sugar in preserves while inhibiting bacterial growth is also a potential food for bacteria. So there is a fine balance here.
Gosh isn't science fascinating.

greenmossgiel Wed 21-Dec-11 10:35:42

I made mince pies the other day from a jar that I'd bought (and opened) for last Christmas. There was nothing in it that showed there was anything wrong though, and it did have a 'use by' date of 2012. We've eaten two separate batches of them with no after or ill effects! confusedgrin

jingl Wed 21-Dec-11 10:34:24

The National Trust recipe has no fat in it at all!

jingl Wed 21-Dec-11 10:33:34

I have been gradually eating (by the teaspoonful) some year old mincemeat, but it was made by the Delia recipe where you heat it slowly in the oven so that the fat coats the apple and prevents fermentation.

Still best all round to rely on alcohol to preserve it though. smile

JessM Wed 21-Dec-11 10:07:28

1. you dont know what else has been breeding in there
2. bacteria can produce toxins that make us ill, so even if we sterilise "off" food it can still cause food poisoning.
3. this is not a pot of jam made by your own fair hand but something that has several ingredients and has managed to go "off" in the fridge
Dont go there.

Carol Wed 21-Dec-11 09:28:22

That fermentation indicates it may have turned slightly alcoholic! It's probably ok, but might not taste quite right. I have a friend who buys up reduced price mincemeat, marzipan, ready made icing etc after Christmas, and uses these provisions to make the next year's mince pies and lots of small Christmas cakes to give as gifts. If you look on the sell by/use by dates on these goods, they usually say, for example ' use by November 2011 which indicates a very long shelf life - they would certainly be alright for use this Christmas.

jingl Wed 21-Dec-11 09:03:15

Oh, sorry! I didn't notice the bit about bubbling! That's definitely fermenting. Not enough alcohol added originally.

No, probably wouldn't use that. Though I don't think it would hurt you tbh.

absentgrana Wed 21-Dec-11 08:59:45

I think bubbling is a bit of a worry. I wouldn't take the chance.

jingl Wed 21-Dec-11 08:56:51

The mincemeat I am using this year is left over from last year's makings. I have taste tested it and it is delicious! It has brandy in it, and, of course, there is loads of sugar which is a preservative in itself.

Ariadne Wed 21-Dec-11 04:55:48

I wouldn't like to risk it; as nannachrissy says, you don't want to be unwell!

nanachrissy Tue 20-Dec-11 23:05:40

No, although I'm not a fussy eater, why take the risk? It's not expensive to buy some more, and who wants a bad stomach at Christmas?

chocolatepudding Tue 20-Dec-11 22:52:38

I have a good friend who makes mincemeat, jam and chutneys to sell in aid of the Royal British Legion. Just over a year ago I bought 2 jars of her mincemeat and kept them in my fridge. I used one jar last Christmas but the second jar I had not touched until one day last week when I opened it to find the contents slightly bubbling. It tastes OK but I wonder if anyone can offer some advice please? One friend suggested heating the mincemeat in the microwave oven for few minutes to kill off any bugs.

In short - would you make some mince pies with it?