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Help - I am a beginner cook - silverside roast beef

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redblue Mon 09-Apr-12 22:52:34

OK, i expect no one is going to look at this tonight
I have a silverside roast beef and a beef and ale sauce suitable for beef (M&S) and a slow cooker
If I proposed to take the silverside roast beef (has net string round it and a small layer of fat but not too much fat) out of the freezer (i.e it is 10.30pm) and put it with the sauce in a slow cooker to defrost and "marinade" overnight) with a view to turning slow cooker on tomorrow morning 7.30am) to eat at 8.30pm - what are the pitfalls
I am assuming that because I have not properly defrosted there will be a horrible layer of fat in the slow cooker? What else? Aside from the humour created from this stupid proposal!! Sorry if all of you proper cooks are laughing but any assistance greatly appreciated

glassortwo Mon 09-Apr-12 23:21:23

Hi red I would defrost the beef without sauce, then in the morning put the beef and the sauce in the slow cooker, and leave to cook away.

Notsogrand Tue 10-Apr-12 08:16:58

Morning red. I did just as glass suggested before Easter. De-frosted the beef overnight and slow cooker all day Friday. It was delicious and I'm sure yours will be too!

susiecb Tue 10-Apr-12 08:48:59

I often do silverside or brisket surrounding by big chunks of root vegetables , half a bottle of red plonk in a low oven for several hours - beautiful soft and juicy meat and so much cheaper.

redblue Tue 10-Apr-12 09:25:31

Thanks all for replies
Well what I did was to defrost it in the sauce in the cold not on slow cooker (maybe an error but there you go) and first thing this morning I browned the defrosted meat on all sides briefly before returning it to the slow cooker and putting the slow cooker on "low"
Lets hope it works out - thank you for your input - I am not very good at this!

bagitha Tue 10-Apr-12 09:39:57

Remember to tell us how delicious it was!

greenmossgiel Tue 10-Apr-12 10:37:02

redblue- that will be so tasty! It can cook slowly all day. If you r slow cooker doesn't have a glass lid, perhaps have a wee look at it a good hour or so before you expect to eat, just in case it's ready before then? By the way, don't be embarrassed about asking for advice with what may seem simple or obvious cooking methods! I didn't know how to make coffee in a percolator - and jeni told me how to do it - perfect results! smile

redblue Tue 10-Apr-12 12:16:47

green thank you! - I am wondering whether 12 hours is too long. Maybe I better check it in good time - it has a blue china style lid so not see through unfortunately
I would like to be much better at cooking and it really helps to have a sounding board to check (very obvious!) things. If i get something wrong it can cause strife which I would rather avoid so to speak

glammanana Tue 10-Apr-12 13:22:22

green do you not think that 12hrs is a bit too long a time and that it may go dry ? but on thinking if it is on very low it may be OK.I hope you enjoyredblue i tend to use cheaper cuts of meat in a slow cooker as they always turn out nice and tender,and never mind the strife if my other half ever complained he would be doing his own cooking we have no strife in this house as every thing I do is correct !!!! grin

greenmossgiel Tue 10-Apr-12 20:07:27

glammanana,-yes, I did think it would be too long to leave it in! I've never cooked on low all day though, so perhaps it would be ok? If I do a brisket joint, I usually only have it in the slow cooker for about 6 hours at the very most, but that's on medium confused. Well, redblue will be serving it up soon....hope it's ok!

redblue Wed 11-Apr-12 12:22:50

Thanks green and glammanana - on the back of your posts I turned it off at 1pm and turned it back on again on low at about 6pm and we ate at 9pm. I know this is not the way to do it and in the future I will turn it on for a cooking time of about 6 hours not 12! the problem was I had to go out (take my children to nursery, work various chores etc etc) and cannot trust dear husband to turn things on etc!
it was good tho - as there was some sauce/gravy to go over it and it was flaky. without the sauce /gravy it probably would have been dry. i didnt cut it up into cubes i just put it in as a whole roast with the net/string binding it together and took that off when i carved
anyway thanks for your invaluable input

greenmossgiel Wed 11-Apr-12 12:40:19

Thank goodness for that, redblue! I was getting quite concerned! Slow cookers are wonderful inventions, aren't they? smile

Anagram Sun 15-Jul-12 12:27:16

I'm using my slow cooker for the first time today!
What I'd like to ask is how long it usually takes for the heat to build up and steam start forming. I had it on low (because that's what the recipe said) for an hour, but nothing seemed to be happening so I turned it to high. That was ages ago, and still nothing seems to be happening!
The pot is hot, so it is working, but do you time the cooking from the start or from when it starts steaming?
My recipe book doesn't make this clear.

absentgrana Sun 15-Jul-12 12:38:40

Anagram If you're using your slow cooker for the first time, I assume that it is a new one, not one of the older ones that had to be preheated (check the manufacturer's handbook). You time the recipe from when all the ingredients have been put in the cooker, you have put on the lid, then switched the cooker on. The whole point of a slow cooker is that it cooks at a low temperature (but one high enough to kill bacteria). Don't worry about steam – you're unlikely to see it. It condenses on the inside of the cooker lid and then runs back into the cooking pot. That's why slow cooker recipes usually have less liquid than conventionally cooked stews. casseroles, etc. If the pot is hot, then it's working – just leave it to bubble gently for the specified length of time and do not lift the lid. Lifting the lid lowers the temperature and it takes at least 20 minutes for it to return to the required level.

Anagram Sun 15-Jul-12 12:40:47

Thanks, absent - but that's the point, it's not bubbling at all sad
Does it take a couple of hours to start bubbling?
(Yes, it is a new cooker)

glammanana Sun 15-Jul-12 12:43:17

anagram what are you cooking sweetie ?

absentgrana Sun 15-Jul-12 12:45:08

It doesn't really bubble noticeably as a dish in a pan on the hob would. It cooks very gently – below boiling point. Don't worry – just leave it on the specified setting for the specified length of time. Trust me – I have written several books of slow cooker recipes. (My books all had introductions which told you things like this, too.) smile

Anagram Sun 15-Jul-12 12:50:28

Oh, thanks, absent, that's put my mind at rest - I could see us eating at midnight! It is just forming bubbles round the sides now, so at least I know something is happening.
How kind of you to reply so soon smile

Anagram Sun 15-Jul-12 12:53:36

glamma, I thought I'd start with something simple, so it is a small topside joint, just with onions and stock. I'm going to go away and leave it now, I have complete faith in absent's advice!

whenim64 Sun 15-Jul-12 13:01:33

I always start everything off really hot before it goes in my slow cooker, so I'll brown meat, add stock till it's bubbling, do whatever I want to do with veg such as brown onions, then add them all and turn it up high so it gets off to a good start. After that, leave it on low or medium for a few hours and it turns out fine. Mine doesn't have the power to make things bubble unless I give it a flying start.

glammanana Sun 15-Jul-12 13:02:50

She has put you on the right track,you won't be disappointed.

Elegran Sun 15-Jul-12 13:04:55

Don't keep taking the lid off to see how it is doing - each time it is opened it loses some heat and has to make up for it by cooking longer. When dear son-in-law (keen cook) was here I had to rap his knuckles several times for opening up for a stir and a sniff. Let it be!

jeni Sun 15-Jul-12 13:05:33

Absent what name do you write under. Pm me if you're worried about GNHQ, but I don't think a reply to a question counts as advertising?

Anagram Sun 15-Jul-12 13:13:57

Elegran - no, that's the one thing that I have absolutely resisted doing! grin

Elegran Sun 15-Jul-12 13:49:10

It takes great self-control, particularly as it gets near to ready and you can smell it! You can put in dumplings for the last part of the cooking time, if you pop them in on top and close the lid smartly.