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Bechamel sauce v creme fraiche

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Aka Thu 14-Aug-14 10:50:54

I know I'll get an answer on this forum.

I'm catering for 12 tomorrow night and decided to do a lasagne, salad, garlic bread etc. I'm cooking the meat tonight as it tastes even better when kept overnight (IMO) but I'm dreading trying to do such a large quantity of bechamel sauce while trying to entertain guests (some arriving at midday) as it's always a but hit and miss with this sauce anyway.

I've read a couple of recipes and reviews where Jamie Oliver uses cream fraiche instead. If this works it will save me hassle and worry.

Has anyone else tried this and if so would you recommend it?

Nonnie Thu 14-Aug-14 10:55:43

Not tried it but it sounds lovely and less heavy. Why not make up the whole thing when the meat is cold and then just put it in the oven when needed? That is what I always do but maybe it wouldn't work so well with CF?

whitewave Thu 14-Aug-14 11:06:49

Well I can see what you mean about all the work, but bechamel will have a lot more flavour I guess

tiggypiro Thu 14-Aug-14 11:18:00

Why don't you infuse the milk and then let it go cold. Strain it into another pan, add the flour and butter and whisk while bringing to the boil - an all-in-one sauce. Add some grated cheese, pour over the lasagne, more cheese on top and put in the fridge until tomorrow.
Alternatively make the sauce and keep seperate, layer up the lasagne but don't put on the final layer of lasagne sheets (they will curl up) and put it all in the fridge. Tomorrow put on the last layer of lasagne, cover with the sauce (may have to thin it down a bit) cover with cheese and throw it in the oven. BINGO !
Have a good day whatever !

hildajenniJ Thu 14-Aug-14 11:26:42

I'm with tiggy on this one . I would do it that way. Bechamel sauce is much nicer than cream fraishe (spelling). Wouldn't it be a little tangy with lasagne?

Grannyknot Thu 14-Aug-14 11:28:43

I've often done that as a shortcut, it worked fine. I use creme fraiche with grated cheese instead of the bechamel sauce. Beat the creme fraiche lightly, so the consistency is thinner (or add a little bit of milk).

I'd probably not make the whole thing up in advance though - assembly takes minutes with the creme fraiche short cut. And if you're not using fresh lasagne sheets, then you need to reheat the meat anyway - to saturate/penetrate the lasagne sheets. When I'm cheating as per above, I also buy fresh lasagne sheets smile

Hope all this makes sense.

Grannyknot Thu 14-Aug-14 11:30:18

hilda the tanginess is slight by the time all the other ingredients are in, and actually very tasty.

Aka Thu 14-Aug-14 11:38:05

Thanks GN I use fresh pasta sheets anyway and my ragu sauce is very tasty. Thanks for the tip with the milk. I think I'll give it a go as I'm going to be very busy as some of the guests are staying over the weekend and we'll have 2 children plus tiny baby and four dogs, one of them a 9 week old pup, staying too.

Knew I'd get an answer here! smile

kittylester Thu 14-Aug-14 11:50:29

I've seen a recipe which uses mascarpone mixed with some hot water and I've used that in some other pasta bakes but not lasagne! It works well!

shabby Thu 14-Aug-14 15:45:33

I recently made a sauce using creme fraiche and cheese and thought it was just ok but didn't use the JO recipe I have used countless JO recipes and never had one fail yet. However I would never use a new recipe if catering for a large party of people if I hadn't tried it out before. Just saying.

Grannyknot Thu 14-Aug-14 16:08:52

aka a teeny tiny bit of milk ...

granjura Thu 14-Aug-14 16:18:12

To cut hassle, time and calories- I make bechamel for lasagna with milk and cornflour (like custard) + herbs, salt and pepper. Easy peasy- nobody ever knows and it all tastes great- especially if you use a tasty cheese for topping.

janerowena Thu 14-Aug-14 16:35:10

I've used all sorts, even greek yoghourt with some cheese added. If you beat in a little cornflour so that it doesn't separate it works really well.

Anne58 Thu 14-Aug-14 16:42:27

Personally, I would be very reluctant to try a new method/ingredient for the first time when doing it for others (close family excepted!) so would stick to tried and tested.

Yours,
Cowardy Custard of Devon

shysal Thu 14-Aug-14 16:42:46

Philadelphia cheese slackened with milk is very tangy.

Galen Thu 14-Aug-14 16:44:41

Primula have bought out a range of sauces! I'm going to try one this week. A garlic and herb one

Anne58 Thu 14-Aug-14 16:51:26

shysal I love the idea of something other than pelvic floor/abdominal muscles and bosoms being "slackened" grin

I have never thought of slackening anything while cooking! (Apart from my rules on wine drinking!)

Aka Thu 14-Aug-14 16:53:35

Dear Cowardy Custard of Devon

Too late now I've bought gallons of creme fraiche. I'm working on the principle that it's only a little bitty ingredient of the recipe and I'm sticking to tried and tested with the rest of the lasagne and I'll bung in a bit of extra Parmesan. Also i found four bottles of Chianti in those wicker baskets that I remember from the 60s so will ply guest liberally with that.

So between that and the garlic I'm chopping for the garlic bread all should go with a bang.

Yours

Wicked and Woosey of Warwick

Grannyknot Thu 14-Aug-14 17:07:43

aka grin

Grannyknot Thu 14-Aug-14 17:08:17

... and please let us know after of the great success!

Aka Thu 14-Aug-14 17:15:18

Will do grin

Anne58 Thu 14-Aug-14 17:57:21

Love it! grin

Anne58 Thu 14-Aug-14 18:00:31

Just thinking, 4 bottles of Chianti, 12 guests........My late lamented stepfather (who was from a very good family wink ) would always work to 2 bottles per guest, not including pre dinner drinks or after ones! Admittedly he never ran out or had to open extra bottles...............

Ana Thu 14-Aug-14 18:25:02

Quite right too, phoenix! Better safe than sorry...grin

Aka Thu 14-Aug-14 22:03:51

That's only for the main course! I wouldn't serve Chianti with dessert! shock