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Back in Time for Dinner

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rosequartz Tue 24-Mar-15 20:23:27

I don't know if any of you have been watching this series on BBC but I don't recognise much of the food which families were supposed to have eaten in last week's programme - the 1950s. eg Cold leftover liver, onions and potatoes for the children.
This week it is the 1960s and the first main meal for the family is corned beef hash - again another unknown in our house!

We didn't have much money but my mother always managed to conjure up delicious, sustaining and varied meals and father always brought in plenty of fresh vegetables from the garden.

Now they are dining at a service station! We didn't have a motorway near us (or a car) so again a complete anomaly for me!

What are other people's experiences of that era ( if you are old enough to remember) wink

Jane10 Wed 25-Mar-15 08:55:53

The wife in the programme last night was very bored and discontented with life. She said she felt sort of redundant and that life was for young people. However, I wonder if that was more due to the artificial situation she was in in that programme? I certainly don't remember bored discontented women in the 60s (although I'm sure they existed just as some do today). Women seemed to do all sorts of things with their time as I remember it: work, various womens' groups (WI, TG etc) gardening, involvement with various charities or organisations eg Girl Guides etc. It was up to each individual to occupy their time.

Falconbird Wed 25-Mar-15 08:57:42

I thought the last episode dealing with the sixties was far more accurate than the first one dealing with the fifties.

I was a child in the fifties and a teenager in the sixties.

I thought it was very accurate when they discussed how the sixties were for the older women and I think it was true that our mums began to feel sidelined during this era.

My own mother had a resurgence in the 1980s when she got it into her head that she looked like Maggie Thatcher, little suits and a handbag! and neatly coiffured hair. (It was a nightmare.)

J52 Wed 25-Mar-15 09:06:03

Can, I agree the set was not totally accurate. Towards the beginning there was a tray with blue flowers on it, supposedly early 60s. I had the matching rolling pin, but that was new and trendy in the early 70s.

Our 60s fridge was a Tricity, as per the brochure they had, but I don't think the actual fridge was a Tricity it looked older.

Just nit picking, im enjoying the programme. x

Jane10 Wed 25-Mar-15 09:06:13

falconbird grin Your Mum!

J52 Wed 25-Mar-15 09:12:52

*Caz, not Can! This I pad has a mind of its own! Spooky because the sentence still reads ok! x

merlotgran Wed 25-Mar-15 09:14:20

I was a teenager in the sixties and life was a blast! A little money went a long way. People went out to meet friends and socialize with them. You could go to the pub, the pictures or a restaurant with very little money - try that today! People went dancing, joined clubs and supported the community much more than they do now.

Jobs were plentiful and children undemanding compared to now. When I passed my driving test at 17, the world opened up even more.

They were great times.

rosequartz Wed 25-Mar-15 09:27:43

Perhaps my parents shielded the problems of rationing from me in the early 1950s but I certainly never remember having Dad's cold leftovers for my evening meal!
I do remember the excitement when the old range (which needed black-leading) was pulled out of the kitchen and a new gas cooker was fitted. Marley tiles were laid on the floor over the old red tiles which had to be polished with 'Cardinal Red' polish.

However, I do remember that DM worked part-time - it must have been from the late 1940s - because she took me to work with her in the nursery and school holidays.
In the 1960s (I think) she joined something called The Women's Gas Federation which was a women's group and they used to go out on day trips. She was also an avid whist player and used to go out to whist drives.
MIL belonged to TWG and RBL and regularly went on lots of trips before she started working full-time in the 1960s.

I don't think real life as it was can possibly be shown in a programme which whizzes through the years like that - a day for each year.
However, I am finding it quite amusing!

rosequartz Wed 25-Mar-15 09:28:41

Yes, I was a teenager in the late 1950s - 1960s and it was a great time!

Bez Wed 25-Mar-15 09:44:32

Well I didn't recognise much of it either! I did live in the London suburbs and was used to going to places like Barkers in Kensington when someone needed a new coat - but that was if the really good C and A there didn't suit! We never ate any of that tripey food and our house was far more comfortable - my parents bought furniture before the war - most of our neighbours were the same even if they had been bombed out. I realise that the house my parents bought during the war was quite far seeing - had a fitted kitchen with a hidden ironing board - my mother was greatly upset when Dad changed some of the cupboards and that went but the main guts of the kitchen was still there when the house was sold after their deaths in 2006!!
I went to college at the end of the fifties and we could go out to a pub or a restaurant quite easily and Cambridge was full of lovely eating places - I had a couple of boyfriends at UNI there. There were also many different types of eating places about too - a Swiss restaurant off Leicester Square and also an Omelette house too. Also up there was a Chinese restaurant owned by a some famous person (i think maybe Henry Cooper) and the manager was a Chinese actor who had parts in many films. Do you remember - Chicken Inns - always reminded me of a fish and chip shop but sold chicken and chips instead!
I married in 1962 worked full time and never cooked those awful meals - I did much meat and veg and also made pastry etc with no problems. Vesta we did not have till the 70s and then it was very occasional fare.
We watched the 1966 World Cup on a much better TV - rented from Radio Rentals or similar. The motorway service stations could be good - the best one I ever encountered was at Aust just the English side of the old Severn Bridge. We called there once in the early seventies and it was like a hotel restaurant overlooking the bridge - nice meal too. I think the place at the Watford Gap was good too - I remember my parents telling me about it.
The other thing is - the clothes - they were wearing 'going out' type gear all the time! Can you imagine cleaning the bath in a frilly petticoat that scratched your legs!! The husband going to work in those tight trousers was just SOO wrong! They were mainly 'grey slacks type, suits or cavalry twill. The young woman historian and Giles are both far too young and their research is quite possibly from guessing rather than asking for memories and they have the attitude of how could they possibly be wrong!

cazthebookworm Wed 25-Mar-15 09:47:25

Yes J52, I am enjoying it too, but wish it were a little more accurate.

rosequartz Wed 25-Mar-15 09:50:29

Their food research is from something called the UK National Food Survey: www.data-archive.ac.uk/deposit/use?id=2164

I don't know of anyone who contributed to these records.

FlicketyB Wed 25-Mar-15 10:13:58

There have been a series of books and these programmes talking about the 1950s recently and they have all left me wondering whether the authors/programme developers have actually talked to people, and there are an awful lot of us, who lived in the 1950s.

They seem to go entirely on average statistics and what they read in magazines and newspapers. Translated to day, how representative of life in the 2010s are tv reality shows, tv advertising, the Women's pages in the Daily Mail or the home décor hints and tips in house magazines? Yet this is what is being used as the basis of these books/programmes.

When I got married in 1968 I can remember articles for the 'new young working wife' listing how I should combine my job with my household responsibilities, complete with time tables and list of chores. I thought them bizarre and pathetic then and neither I nor anyone I knew ever took any notice of them.

My mother was a good and adventurous cook and I can remember her cooking goulasch, risotto and spag bol in the 1950s. All recipes in the little recipe book that came with her new Prestige Pressure cooker. For Prestige to include these recipes suggests that my mother wasn't the only exploratory cook by any means. She also cooked curry regularly, but my father was in the army and we did live in the Far East in the early 1950s

Falconbird Wed 25-Mar-15 10:20:02

jane10 - thanks for the grin mum also got it into her head that she was like the mother in "Sorry" you remember Ronnie Corbet was the poor son still living at home.

I still sort of miss her though because she was a character. smile

I loved the bit in Home in Time for Dinner when the girls were sharing a bed-sit. I could almost feel how liberated they were. The sixties were the best time to be a teenager. I was 14 in 1960 and grew to womanhood during that swinging era. It was GREAT.

Elegran Wed 25-Mar-15 10:32:14

Yes, Flickety I remember laughing at those articles in women's mags on how to keep your home perfect and always look wonderful when your man came home from work. That was not how real people lived. They didn't eat the strange meals that are featured in the programmes either - well maybe sometimes, but not exclusively, as they are picturing it.

And the children don't seem to be having much of a life. Why aren't they going out to youth clubs or listening to Radio Luxemburg? Or playing board games or noisy card games, or hanging out with their friends - we did have friends, you know, and they came to the house, where the girls did each others hair and discussed boys, and the boys - I don't know what the boys did, whatever boys do, I suppose.

Mamie Wed 25-Mar-15 10:34:28

My mother worked full time, shopped by bus, cooked, cleaned, made all our clothes and washed by hand. Don't think she had time to be bored. I hate this myth that women didn't work outside the home in the fifties and sixties. Of course they did.
I saw a bit of the liver one but was do angry at the misrepresentation and the appalling cooking that I switched off. Of course people cooked tasty food in the fifties.
My MiL had spent years living in Cairo so she said she was forever walking miles in search of an aubergine or an avocado.

grumppa Wed 25-Mar-15 10:42:55

Bez, was it Ley-On's at 31-33 Wardour Street? I remember the walls were covered with photos of stars of stage and screen in the 1950s, long before Henry Cooper could have owned it. Their crispy noodles got me hooked on Chinese food for life.

merlotgran Wed 25-Mar-15 10:48:20

They were glamorous times for restaurants who could boast a celebrity clientele.

Remember when the Ram Jam Inn on the Great North Road (A1) had a wall that was signed by formula 1 racing drivers, film stars, pop stars and the like?

We regularly travelled from the Isle of Wight to Sheffield to visit DH's parents. It was one of our favourite stopping off places.

annodomini Wed 25-Mar-15 10:58:27

Living near Nottingham, I did come across people who would go out for a meal at the Trowell Service Area. We did not!

annsixty Wed 25-Mar-15 11:20:46

anno a few years ago we actually spent a night at Trowell services. The reasons are too complex to go into. I could not say we slept there as the noise was awful and it is not to be repeated. We didn't eat there as we were returning from a dinner out with friends and for breakfast we were given a voucher to spend in the shop.needless to say we didn't use it.

NotTooOld Wed 25-Mar-15 11:57:47

My first visit to a Chinese restaurant was in Strood, Kent, and I tried lychees there, too. It all seemed very exotic but I liked the lychees. Are they the same as Chinese gooseberries?

Bez Wed 25-Mar-15 12:10:34

grumppa is quite likely to be Wardpur Street - it was one around that area but I didn't go till the 60s and Henry was a very well known boxer by the time I went - there were lots of photos on the walls- good food too!
Do you remember the Steak House - several of those about - I remember going to one which was near the Sphagetti House were there was some sort of siege.

annodomini Wed 25-Mar-15 12:25:34

Chinese gooseberries are Kiwi fruit, as far as I know, NTO

rosequartz Wed 25-Mar-15 12:28:56

Lychees, Rambutan and Longans are all very similar, but anno is right, kiwi fruit are aka as Chinese gooseberries.

J52 Wed 25-Mar-15 13:02:35

I remember the Soaghetti House, bolognaise for 5/- !

We also went to Bunji's folk club, just off Leicester Sq. I think it was 2/6 to get in, spaghetti bolognaise was on the menu there as well! x

Bez Wed 25-Mar-15 13:18:22

I was even taken to the100 Club in Oxford Street - downstairs I think and people like Johnny Dankworth payed there in his early days. Did you ever go to the Hammersmith Palais? They had it on TV at Saturday lunchtime. I only ever went once.
Whoever mentioned about the young going to youth clubs was spot on too. We had one in the local church hall. I went to a co-ed school and we had a Social Club after school and any wet lunchtimes - restricted to 5th and 6th formers. Learnt to do ballroom dancing and some weeks we were even given money from the subs- about 6p a week each- to choose new records - going in the booths to listen! All this was organised and run by the sixth formers and we never had any problems.